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Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?
When do the Hardys throw The Club into the Lake of Regeneration and turn them into Tex Ferguson and Chad 2 Badd?

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Gatts posted:

Roman is less of a man now.

I wonder if Taker would walk backstage, eye Vince and do his neck slash thing, and Vince punishes Roman rest of year jobbing to Dolph in increasingly humiliating fashion.

roman jobbing to dolph would be my everything

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

If Roman Reigns literally murdered Dolph Ziggler on TV, I would join the Roman Empire.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Raskolnikov38 posted:

roman jobbing to dolph would be my everything

Follow it up to a loss to Bray.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


I would prefer if Roman jobbed to like Tyler Breeze or Dillinger or somebody so that Ziggler does not get money and attention, imo.

Eldritch BiLast
Jul 7, 2009

Pummel Sylvanas
Melee Range
Instant
If Roman's merch sales plummet after this, do they turn him heel, or continue on trying with the face megapush?

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gatts posted:

Roman is less of a man now.



Repackage as Dr. Frank-N-Further.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

they need to turn him heel regardless of merch sales but they've refused to for years now so i could see them keeping at it

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
To me the worst part of the main event besides everything was when Roman beat Taker he just kind of rolled out of the ring and left like he had just finished a squash match with a local job guy. Beating Undertaker at Wrestlemania should be a career defining moment, not just another day at the office.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
I think Big Dave said that the major rumor is Lesnar holding the belt hostage until next Mania and we get a main event of Roman V Lesnar as Roman's ultra super duper final form for real this time Coronation.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Mr. Carlisle posted:

If Matt doesn't get to use his broken character to full effect it will be such a waste. It's so fun to watch.

Knowing the WWE they might be planning on doing their own version of Matt becoming broken. They love redoing stories when Indie guys come on. See Owens and Zayn.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Xenoletum posted:

If Roman's merch sales plummet after this, do they turn him heel, or continue on trying with the face megapush?

roman will be the death of this company

SpiritOfSanDimas
Oct 31, 2012

Was the Cena hate nearly at Roman's level when he was up and coming? I get the sense the Roman hate is more.... hostile. Its gonna be funny though when he retires / is at future hall of fame events and people boo him like crazy

Who cares tho Broken Matt Hardy will replace Roman as top babyface when he releases his first t shirt and becomes the #1 merch mover

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Raskolnikov38 posted:

roman will be the death of this company

We can only hope

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Raskolnikov38 posted:

roman will be the death of this company

Promise?

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005

YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !
WM28 was the perfect moment when the old guard should have ridden off together into the sunset. The only smart one was Shawn. Trips is still trying to catch up to become as legendary as his contemporaries, something he will never achieve, no matter how hard he tries and how ridiculous his entrances become. And Taker long overstayed his welcome.

If no young talent to retire Taker is at hand, then why not use a respected veteran instead. Shawn vs Ric was the best example how to do it. But no, they had to give the rub to their chosen one and it was a disaster unworthy of someone like Taker.

Hammerstein fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Apr 3, 2017

Vaguido
Feb 22, 2011

When the drug test comes back positive for performance enhancing drugs.
Two really funny things about Wrestlemania:

Dean Ambrose, the man who had a nothing match on the pre-show, had the best match with Triple H out of the three Shield members by a country mile.

Stephanie McMahon still thinks the proper comeuppance for an entire year of being a blight to weekly television is a single bump that hardly qualifies as a bump.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.
I think the highlight of the weekend for me was Nigel mistakenly calling NXT Ring of Honor.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

Here's how you get Roman over: make Roman good instead of bad.

I'm re-watching from Triple H and god that loving cop escort is stupid.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

Fluffy Bunnies posted:

Here's how you get Roman over: make Roman good instead of bad.

lets go roman!

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


So let me ask about the new Mania tradition, The New Streak

How's Bray going to look godawful next Mania? My guess is he loses to Shane

schweens
Jan 14, 2011

kakarot ain't got shit on me
In hindsight they should have done Taker/Cena at Wrestlemania 31 and retired Taker there.

In this scenario Rusev still gets the tank entrance but instead he beats Bryan or Orton

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Fluffy Bunnies posted:

Here's how you get Roman over: make Roman good instead of bad.

that would require joe anoani to give a poo poo about his job and :laffo: at that

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

Vaguido posted:

Stephanie McMahon still thinks the proper comeuppance for an entire year of being a blight to weekly television is a single bump that hardly qualifies as a bump.

Yeah let's have Stephanie McMahon fall of a 20 foot tall ladder next year I think that would be great

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

Raskolnikov38 posted:

that would require joe anoani to give a poo poo about his job and :laffo: at that

you are assuming a lot about a man who tends to work very hard and frequently has good matches

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
Cena never got this pure level of vitriol because Cena has a personality and can work with a crowd. The dude always read the crowd and either A. Seemed to not be bothered by it and accept the fans or B. Find it funny and make the fans like him by playing around with it.

Roman is loving horrendous at letting the crowd gently caress with him. He yells at them with weird tantrums/lovely burns, does interviews where he acts like a smug dick about it and he just overall has the aura of "Yeah gently caress all of you. I still get paid to be poo poo, suck my rear end I literally could not care less about this industry and it's fans"

I'm sure the dude cares about his job, but he just doesn't seem to really want to get the fans on his side.

Vaguido
Feb 22, 2011

When the drug test comes back positive for performance enhancing drugs.

Professor Funk posted:

Yeah let's have Stephanie McMahon fall of a 20 foot tall ladder next year I think that would be great

Yeah, because that's what I was implying.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Cardboard Box posted:

you are assuming a lot about a man who tends to work very hard and frequently has good matches

where, where is the good roman match in the past year and a half? and dont bring up AJ cause he just pulled a decent match out of shane loving mcmahon

BWV
Feb 24, 2005


Mania would've been good if it ended after the Goldberg match. Also I'm sad Rusev didn't get anything.

I really liked the tag match, the KO/Jericho match, and Brock/Goldberg

I wish I liked AJ/Shane more. AJ is a god and so fun to watch but I didn't get the whole part of making Shane look like an rear end kicker. The guy is all about big bumps and taking punishment and not about beating people up.

The Undertaker match was such poo poo. Independent of the whole Roman thing, the actual ring work was garbage. Also, we've all talked about it but the superman punch/spear combo is so annoying. Having your two moves both be direct attacks and not suplexs/ddt/etc. really gets tiresome.

ICR
Dec 31, 2008

Here's how you at the very least start repairing Roman and making him a little more appealing:

1) Give him new theme music immediately. Holy poo poo it's awful. Bottom 3 in the WWE easily. I'd go as far as to say Bottom 10 in all wrestling promotions.

2) Turn him heel. Even if it's just for a little bit, it needs to be clearly defined. Not this, "I may have a poopy diaper, but then again, maybe I don't. Mom, dad you'll never know because I'm not telling teehee!!"

3) Play to the strengths he has. He needs to get angry and he was truly at his best when he was the enforcer of Shield and had an "edge" to him. He is just monotone and one-dimensional right now.

4) Lastly, he needs an additional ring-defining move at the very least. We have got his power bomb, Samoan drop, idiot punch and spear. I'll be real--the dude hits the ropes really well. He looks kinda vicious when he puts speed to his rope running. Utilize this.

5) Give him The Rock Bottom and People's Elbow and an eyebrow raise. Just kidding. Or maybe I'm not kidding, you never know world!!!

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

Cardboard Box posted:

you are assuming a lot about a man who tends to work very hard and frequently has good matches

I didn't know that you had such a bad accident that literally left you blind. Dragon naturally speaking is doing well these days translating. I'm so sorry, CB. Maybe if you talk to HHH's prop department you could get some cool cyborg eyes? Then they can make little digital text on the side of your vision, while watching a Roman match, telling you why he's bad?


OldTennisCourt posted:

Roman is loving horrendous at letting the crowd gently caress with him. He yells at them with weird tantrums/lovely burns, does interviews where he acts like a smug dick about it and he just overall has the aura of "Yeah gently caress all of you. I still get paid to be poo poo, suck my rear end I literally could not care less about this industry and it's fans"

I'm sure the dude cares about his job, but he just doesn't seem to really want to get the fans on his side.

On some level Kevin Nash did some of the same poo poo, but he had a personality, could do a few cool moves in the ring even in his older years, and was alright at making a crowd hate or love him as necessary. Plus he had a really drunken pal who did a good bit of talking for him.

Maybe give Jeff Hardy a wellness immunity and let him do promos for Reigns.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

SUN GOD AVATAR posted:

4) Lastly, he needs an additional ring-defining move at the very least. We have got his power bomb, Samoan drop, idiot punch and spear. I'll be real--the dude hits the ropes really well. He looks kinda vicious when he puts speed to his rope running. Utilize this.

you mean the powerbomb he is incapable of doing?

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Cena never got this level of vitriol because if people didn't like Cena there were other companies on TV for them to watch, which if they didn't like the WWE product they would!

There is no even vaguely relevant alternative to current WWE, so instead people hatewatch otherwise they would have nothing to post about.

CrcleSqreSanchz
Aug 21, 2002

I'm feeling something new...something...I'm happy??!!
Bray Wyatt shone images of maggots and worms in the middle of their match.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


I'm a tremendous Reigns fan and I still think it takes incredible amount of balls to say "he has good matches" immediately after the worst Mania main event in at least a full decade

SUN GOD AVATAR posted:

Here's how you at the very least start repairing Roman and making him a little more appealing:

1) Give him new theme music immediately. Holy poo poo it's awful. Bottom 3 in the WWE easily. I'd go as far as to say Bottom 10 in all wrestling promotions.

2) Turn him heel. Even if it's just for a little bit, it needs to be clearly defined. Not this, "I may have a poopy diaper, but then again, maybe I don't. Mom, dad you'll never know because I'm not telling teehee!!"

3) Play to the strengths he has. He needs to get angry and he was truly at his best when he was the enforcer of Shield and had an "edge" to him. He is just monotone and one-dimensional right now.

4) Lastly, he needs an additional ring-defining move at the very least. We have got his power bomb, Samoan drop, idiot punch and spear. I'll be real--the dude hits the ropes really well. He looks kinda vicious when he puts speed to his rope running. Utilize this.

5) Give him The Rock Bottom and People's Elbow and an eyebrow raise. Just kidding. Or maybe I'm not kidding, you never know world!!!

what's your list on "how to start repairing Bray", and why is it not a single bullet point saying "You Can't"

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

Raskolnikov38 posted:

where, where is the good roman match in the past year and a half? and dont bring up AJ cause he just pulled a decent match out of shane loving mcmahon

the match he had with braun strowman that was way better than it had any right to be? the four and a half star match he had with kevin owens at royal rumble? those were both this year.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Xenoletum posted:

If Roman's merch sales plummet after this, do they turn him heel, or continue on trying with the face megapush?
Everyone else's merch gets pulled. You'll buy Roman gear and only Roman gear and you'll like it.

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

give roman a ramp dog

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


I've got this idea for a new Network reality show. Basically JBL and Dolph Ziggler are handcuffed together and left in a parking lot somewhere. End of show. I think it'll get over.

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Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

Fluffy Bunnies posted:

I didn't know that you had such a bad accident that literally left you blind. Dragon naturally speaking is doing well these days translating. I'm so sorry, CB. Maybe if you talk to HHH's prop department you could get some cool cyborg eyes? Then they can make little digital text on the side of your vision, while watching a Roman match, telling you why he's bad?

no you were supposed to say LETS GO ROMAN

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