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For purposes of delirium, aftermath cards count for both types, correct?
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Apr 3, 2017 16:30
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BizarroAzrael posted:Weird to see all this white zombie stuff. I had assumed embalm would be BW or in all colors to varying degrees. We know Embalm will be on cards that aren't monowhite, since the token's color is specifically changed from its original color to white, which wouldn't be necessary if the cards were all monowhite to begin with.
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Apr 3, 2017 16:31
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Rinkles posted:For purposes of delirium, aftermath cards count for both types, correct? Correct.
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Apr 3, 2017 16:34
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Rinkles posted:For purposes of delirium, aftermath cards count for both types, correct? if they have different types, yes. I kinda don't like them having different types cause it looks less clean but i'm guessing this is why they decided to experiment with it, to help delirum (because it was sooooooooooo underpowered right)
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Apr 3, 2017 16:34
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I like Red God. Red God knows how to get in there, and also turns your chaff into shocks.
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Apr 3, 2017 16:35
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mandatory lesbian posted:if they have different types, yes. I kinda don't like them having different types cause it looks less clean It's the most interesting part of the design, to me
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Apr 3, 2017 16:36
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 This slots nicely into Bogles, I think.
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Apr 3, 2017 16:36
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Count Bleck posted:I like Red God. More like piddly lava spikes
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Apr 3, 2017 16:37
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Cactrot posted:
it does help it play around edict effects without committing an actual creature, but i am totally clueless on how many edict effects exist outside liliana of the veil (which granted is played pretty heavily so who knows, maybe its worth it against the one card)
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Apr 3, 2017 16:39
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I can't wait to lose games because I forget I have embalmable creatures in my graveyard. I seriously love the mechanic. So grindy.
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Apr 3, 2017 16:39
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Cactrot posted:
it can squabble with hyena umbra for the last few slots, yeah
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Apr 3, 2017 16:40
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mandatory lesbian posted:if they have different types, yes. I kinda don't like them having different types cause it looks less clean but i'm guessing this is why they decided to experiment with it, to help delirum (because it was sooooooooooo underpowered right) 
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Apr 3, 2017 16:40
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Elyv posted:it can squabble with hyena umbra for the last few slots, yeah This seems straight up better than the Totem Armor effect in Boggles...
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Apr 3, 2017 16:43
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BJPaskoff posted:I can't wait to lose games because I forget I have embalmable creatures in my graveyard. I seriously love the mechanic. So grindy. They somehow managed to put two new flashback variants in one set. And then threw in cycling for good measure.
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Apr 3, 2017 16:44
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mcmagic posted:This seems straight up better than the Totem Armor effect in Boggles... liliana vs damnation/verdict/anger/incidental chumpblocking seems like a meta call to me, although right now I'd agree
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Apr 3, 2017 17:09
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mandatory lesbian posted:i can't wait for the unintentional implications of 4 white people and an Elf coming in to tell the black people their culture/religion/way of life is wrong and needs to be changed literal elf hitler
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Apr 3, 2017 17:27
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Kalli posted:They say Force of Will twice in that trailer which is a somewhat odd choice to focus on. http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/159015172048/is-aven-mindsensor-the-only-invocation-card Too good to be true.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:30
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dragon enthusiast posted:literal elf hitler
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Apr 3, 2017 17:31
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mcmagic posted:This seems straight up better than the Totem Armor effect in Boggles... Totem armor is the only way the deck doesn't get blown out by wrath effects though. It also helps against anger of the gods and such. It might still take a few slots from hyena umbra like the poster said. mandatory lesbian posted:it does help it play around edict effects without committing an actual creature, but i am totally clueless on how many edict effects exist outside liliana of the veil (which granted is played pretty heavily so who knows, maybe its worth it against the one card) Blessed alliance, although it has fallen out of favor a little lately. Sickening fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Apr 3, 2017 |
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Apr 3, 2017 17:31
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There's probably a casual R/B madness deck that wants to run 1-2 of these, but it seems a bit narrow otherwise. Feels like the mana cost on the discard ability got bumped up by 1 or 2 as a buffer against being overpowered. Interesting design otherwise though.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:38
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:There's probably a casual R/B madness deck that wants to run 1-2 of these, but it seems a bit narrow otherwise. Feels like the mana cost on the discard ability got bumped up by 1 or 2 as a buffer against being overpowered. Interesting design otherwise though. 3 cmc + whatever the madness costs is a pretty high cost.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:39
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not a good start imo
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Apr 3, 2017 17:42
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odiv posted:How can anyone look at this and not read Hazoret the Pervert?  
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Apr 3, 2017 17:43
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Anyway, now that the -1/-1s are official, here's an idea: Winding Constrictor and... Harmless Offering.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:46
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:There's probably a casual R/B madness deck that wants to run 1-2 of these, but it seems a bit narrow otherwise. Feels like the mana cost on the discard ability got bumped up by 1 or 2 as a buffer against being overpowered. Interesting design otherwise though. If burn were decent, you could run this as the top of the curve in a RDW deck, since you're usually going down to 1-2 cards by T4 anyways.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:46
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Siivola posted:Anyway, now that the -1/-1s are official, here's an idea: Winding Constrictor and... Harmless Offering. First time Jund has ever played a sorcery to end up behind on board.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:49
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Sickening posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-hVm9_O6BI I thought this was really cool and got me really into the world they are building. I don't usually think stuff like this is very interesting, so I was surprised.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:53
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Sickening posted:3 cmc + whatever the madness costs is a pretty high cost. Yeah that's what I was getting at. Pitching something like Fiery Temper is about as good as it gets and even then there are probably better plays you can make on turn 5 with any deck that would want this.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:55
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Oh hey there's a local dude tackling the ~worthy champion~ out of the way as Gideon takes the hit, that's neat. The animation's pretty stiff and janky, but the texturing looks real good imo. 
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Apr 3, 2017 17:58
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Turning your lands in to 3-mana shocks seems ok in the late game. The fact that it MIGHT come down swinging on turn 4 is pretty great. My concern is how much -1/-1 removal will be in the standard format because that seems to really hose these "always creatures" gods.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:02
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TheChirurgeon posted:If burn were decent, you could run this as the top of the curve in a RDW deck, since you're usually going down to 1-2 cards by T4 anyways. Yeah I mean, we played Rathi Dragon as the top end in monored back in the day, and this card is a lot better than Rathi Dragon. However, that presupposes that a red/x aggro deck exists. If it doesn't, this card is probably unplayable but if it does it can probably top out a curve.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:05
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Balon posted:Turning your lands in to 3-mana shocks seems ok in the late game. The fact that it MIGHT come down swinging on turn 4 is pretty great. For it to come down swinging turn 4 with no mulligans or discards, you have to play 9 cards on the play in 3 turns, and 10 on the draw at least. 4 of those are lands obviously, but that still means you have to cast 5 cards on the play, 6 on the draw.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:06
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Elyv posted:Yeah I mean, we played Rathi Dragon as the top end in monored back in the day, and this card is a lot better than Rathi Dragon. The only similarity between the two is the mana cost. They have very different drawbacks. Weird comparison to bring up.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:08
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If anyone is going to GP Montreal in May of this year, I will make it very worth your while to get my Véronique Meignaud zen full arts signed. I will pay for shipping back to me and all that as well, of course.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:09
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Barring some kind of powerful enabler, I think we would be looking at Fleetwheel as the top end in a traditional RDW deck before we looked at the god.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:13
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TheKingofSprings posted:For it to come down swinging turn 4 with no mulligans or discards, you have to play 9 cards on the play in 3 turns, and 10 on the draw at least.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:13
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Rinkles posted:The only similarity between the two is the mana cost. They have very different drawbacks. Weird comparison to bring up. The comparison was that I think this card is much better than Rathi Dragon in the specific context of red aggro. E: Of course, creatures were awful back then, so. Would you prefer if I mentioned Lava Hounds? It's probably a better analogy.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:14
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Flameblade Adept R Creature - Jackal Warrior Menace Whenever you cycle or discard a card, Flameblade Adept gets +1/+0 until end of turn. So this is a T2 combo with Fluctuator and adequate cycling cards in hand/deck?
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Apr 3, 2017 18:17
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TheKingofSprings posted:For it to come down swinging turn 4 with no mulligans or discards, you have to play 9 cards on the play in 3 turns, and 10 on the draw at least. You don't have to play them per se; you could discard them to something like Nahiri's Wrath on T3. e: NOTE: I am aware that so far, this deck is shaping up to be rear end
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Elyv posted:The comparison was that I think this card is much better than Rathi Dragon in the specific context of red aggro. I'm still not sure how big of a drawback the handsize limitation is. Trying to visualize it, it seems like something that could be both over and underestimated.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:19
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