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markus_cz
May 10, 2009

Roland Jones posted:

It's a good thing I read this post in full after skimming it because I almost missed that you wanted me to sign up last. Will keep an eye on things to see when everyone else is in.

What's the deal with claiming civs for this, just pick whoever, or do we have to be random?



You can pick what you want. I just like random.

markus_cz fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Apr 3, 2017

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Judgy Fucker
Mar 24, 2006

markus_cz posted:

:siren:The spring PBEM game is here!:siren:

Players: Me, Ulvino, Roland Jones, Byzantine, Dragongem, TipTow, Wacky Delly

Password: goonspring

We'll be running with all the DLCs except Vikings - ie. all Civilization packs.

I'm in Europe, you're all in Central or Eastern time so the turn order for you doesn't really matter. Feel free to join the game in any order. If Roland Jones, who's the only one in Pacific time, could join as the last one, that would be great. Although the time difference isn't that big to matter much so it's not a big deal if it isn't that way.

Have fun and see you in game (in couple of weeks :D))

I will join this evening when I get home and baby is put to bed.

Dumb question, do I need to turn off my Vikings DLC before joining?

markus_cz
May 10, 2009

TipTow posted:

I will join this evening when I get home and baby is put to bed.

Dumb question, do I need to turn off my Vikings DLC before joining?

You can actually join right from work, just from a web browser. The initial signup at the PYDT site doesn't require the game - you need to link your Steam account, though. Basically, I just need all players to sign up for the game first before I create the save in-game and start sending it around.

As for the DLC, it's all handled automatically, no need to turn anything on and off.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

You do have to have Steam running already in order for the plugin to work as advertised though :science:
and you have to hand-create a Hotseat directory, since one doesn't natively exist

LordSloth
Mar 7, 2008

Disgruntled (IT) Employee

MooselanderII posted:

How's the combat AI in the game now that there have been a few new patches? Is it still a Sim Civilization builder game?

I just had Persia and Australia declare a Joint War on me, while moving escorted settlers towards my territory. With a little scout support, I captured both and now my position isn't looking half as lovely. I really am thankful they declared war on me, otherwise I would have suffered horribly trapped in my little territory sandwiched between mountain and ocean.

markus_cz
May 10, 2009

I'd like to get the PBEM running in about 12 hours tops. We're missing a player but I think we've waited long enough. Roland Jones, please get in so that I can start it. I'll reduce the player count. Thanks for your patience, everyone.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

markus_cz posted:

I'd like to get the PBEM running in about 12 hours tops. We're missing a player but I think we've waited long enough. Roland Jones, please get in so that I can start it. I'll reduce the player count. Thanks for your patience, everyone.

Alright, done.

Edit: Final list of civs in this are India, Macedon, Germany, Egypt, Rome, and Persia. Looks like things will be pretty aggressive. Fun.

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Apr 5, 2017

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
So resuming my first game of Civ6 after playing Andromeda, and I see the AI is what it's always been in this series. Australia keeps declaring war on me, suing for peace after I sink his navy and take a city, then fifteen turns later declaring war on me again.

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

So apparently, if Poland captures a city with an encampment, the below can happen?



I'm talking about Frankfurt.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

John F Bennett posted:

So apparently, if Poland captures a city with an encampment, the below can happen?



I'm talking about Frankfurt.

The "culture bomb" happens even when they conquer somebody else's encampment? Gotta be a bug.

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

prefect posted:

The "culture bomb" happens even when they conquer somebody else's encampment? Gotta be a bug.

I don't think it's so much a bug as I read the code related to city captures is really wonky. Like, "destroys the city and rebuilds it, building by building, district by district" wonky.

If you think that's weird, I also saw on Civfanatics that whenever you even begin to construct a Wonder in a conquered city when playing as Alex, you get the map-wide full heal. Not when you complete the Wonder. When you start building it.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Please calm down, John Curtin. I'm only occupying your cities because you declared war on me so I took your stuff in exchange. I did nothing to threaten you aside from be nearby, technologically advanced, and in possession of a strong military - that last mainly because Peter is also nearby and has been an rear end in a top hat from the stone age on.

Kalko
Oct 9, 2004

I just learned that other civs are now happy to trade their great works to me for a few luxury or strategic resources, which means I can gradually accumulate as many as I need without having to buy the great people myself. In the game I just played I could afford to trade away pretty much all of my resources all the time (I was isolated and had lots of wonder amenities) but I suppose that won't always be the case.

I assume I could have also made a huge trade and then declared war to cancel my side of it, which is a classic civ tactic that they seem to have tried to remove from the game (no more trading gold for GPT).

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

Kalko posted:

I just learned that other civs are now happy to trade their great works to me for a few luxury or strategic resources, which means I can gradually accumulate as many as I need without having to buy the great people myself. In the game I just played I could afford to trade away pretty much all of my resources all the time (I was isolated and had lots of wonder amenities) but I suppose that won't always be the case.

I assume I could have also made a huge trade and then declared war to cancel my side of it, which is a classic civ tactic that they seem to have tried to remove from the game (no more trading gold for GPT).

Yeah, it does seem like they're a bit too eager to give up their great works. On the other hand I'm not sure I'd ever get a Great Work in a game with civs like Russia and Brazil at higher difficulties otherwise.

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.
They don't seem very willing to do a 1:1 trade for luxuries either. I'll be damned if I"m going to trade 3:1, or 1 lux and some absurd gpt price.

Kalko
Oct 9, 2004

Magil Zeal posted:

Yeah, it does seem like they're a bit too eager to give up their great works. On the other hand I'm not sure I'd ever get a Great Work in a game with civs like Russia and Brazil at higher difficulties otherwise.

I like using my spies to steal great works even though it feels like I should be using them for gold all the time. I do like how the mechanics of stealing a great work undetected play out when you think about it :

"Breaking News! Monet's Water Lilies stolen from the Aachen Museum by persons unknown!"

"In unrelated news, join us tomorrow for our coverage of the grand opening of the Pasargadae Museum of Art, featuring Monet's Water Lilies."

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Cythereal posted:

Please calm down, John Curtin. I'm only occupying your cities because you declared war on me so I took your stuff in exchange. I did nothing to threaten you aside from be nearby, technologically advanced, and in possession of a strong military - that last mainly because Peter is also nearby and has been an rear end in a top hat from the stone age on.

I know right? If you don't keep his cities, he'll never learn.

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

Alex's ability to heal when taking a city with a wonder is as scary as I thought. I played as Alex and started next to France. Decided not to attack them until mid game when they had 8 cities and wonders in 4 of them. I was invincible.

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

Kalko posted:

I like using my spies to steal great works even though it feels like I should be using them for gold all the time. I do like how the mechanics of stealing a great work undetected play out when you think about it :

"Breaking News! Monet's Water Lilies stolen from the Aachen Museum by persons unknown!"

"In unrelated news, join us tomorrow for our coverage of the grand opening of the Pasargadae Museum of Art, featuring Monet's Water Lilies."

If you're playing against humans, claim it was traded to you by another player :v:

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Wacky Delly posted:

I know right? If you don't keep his cities, he'll never learn.

Won my first game. Was playing as France on a large map, won a science victory, and out of nine rivals only two never declared war on me - Poland kinda hated me but kept trading with me all game, and Sumeria thought I was hilarious and was a bro all game long. Egypt, America, and Brazil all declared war once. Kongo, Germany, and Russia declared war a few times. France was at war with Australia for more of recorded history than not, and Australia started it every time.

Seriously, John. You declare war on me, I get your stuff. That's how this works. Also Toowoomba is a stupid name for a city and I did the world a favor renaming it Marseilles since I owned it for a few hundred years.

Dragonrah
Aug 22, 2003

J.C. Bearington, III

Kalko posted:

I like using my spies to steal great works even though it feels like I should be using them for gold all the time. I do like how the mechanics of stealing a great work undetected play out when you think about it :

"Breaking News! Monet's Water Lilies stolen from the Aachen Museum by persons unknown!"

"In unrelated news, join us tomorrow for our coverage of the grand opening of the Pasargadae Museum of Art, featuring Monet's Water Lilies."

Just another reason I want spies to be able to carry out false flag ops.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
The last couple of times I've played Civ6, it's crashed my computer when I try to exit to desktop. Is this a known bug?

Dragonrah
Aug 22, 2003

J.C. Bearington, III

Cythereal posted:

The last couple of times I've played Civ6, it's crashed my computer when I try to exit to desktop. Is this a known bug?

I get that every time now too.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Dragonrah posted:

I get that every time now too.

A problem from the patch, maybe? I think I've been running into this every time I've played since the patch.


Also, is it just me or is the AI a hell of a lot more bloodthirsty in this game? Both games so far, I've repeatedly had half the world declare war on me in the span of two turns. Gilgamesh is a bro, at least.

Leinadi
Sep 14, 2009
The thing with the game occasionally freezing when quitting has been there since release for me, though it doesn't freeze my computer (I can ctrl+alt+delete shutdown the Civ application). The patch has introduced a thing where turns sometime take a long time, even early in the game. Seems to have to do with the barbarian turns, the game also freezes for a few seconds for me at times when doing stuff like changing policies.

The patches have improved the AI a bit. Since the latest patch, the most notable thing I've noticed is that the AI used ranged units quite competently a few times which made overpowering it quite a bit harder. That said, it still needs a *lot* of work. Naval and airborne warfare is still a complete mystery to the AI it seems which makes the game so easy at times. It just can't defend against it, at all.

Also, since the last patch the AI has declared joint wars on me a lot more, *especially* in later eras. But... the times it has happened there is no military fielded against me. They just declare the war and nothing happens.

ChrisXP
Nov 25, 2004

"In football, time and space are the same thing."
Pretty much since release I get a crash notification for the program when quitting to desktop about 50% of the time, but since I was closing it down anyway it doesn't matter, and seems to have no knock-on effect.
I'd guess its now affecting you as well, but brings down the whole pc instead. I know this info doesn't help.....

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

After a long session (multiple hours) I have to restart my PC. Not because of a hard-lock, but because everything on it runs very slowly after playing CIV. Things like +10 seconds to open up the right click menu on my desktop. I check my processes but nothing regarding the game is there.

It feels like a memory leak but it's not.

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

I'm able to make peace with city-states while I'm still at war with their suzerain. I shouldn't be able to do that, right? Anybody else getting this behavior?

SlothBear
Jan 25, 2009

The Human Crouton posted:

I'm able to make peace with city-states while I'm still at war with their suzerain. I shouldn't be able to do that, right? Anybody else getting this behavior?

You've always been able to do that I think?

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

SlothBear posted:

You've always been able to do that I think?

That's pretty stupid.

SlothBear
Jan 25, 2009

The Human Crouton posted:

That's pretty stupid.

No argument here.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Leinadi posted:

though it doesn't freeze my computer (I can ctrl+alt+delete shutdown the Civ application).

I can CAD just fine, but then I can't actually bring up the task menu because the screen is stuck on Civ and right-clicking the Civ icon on the bottom taskbar and clicking close window doesn't work.

It's a shame since I'm enjoying the game and it otherwise runs fine, but I don't want to play a game that can reliably crash my computer whenever I want to exit.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


The space race victory was better back in Civ 1. I think then (if i remember correctly) you had to build X number of components and could launch early with a specific number of turns to win but could still lose if someone else launched later with more thrusters. I think.

Now it's just 'who can be bothered to build 3 space ports and ideally grind a great engineer".

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Cythereal posted:

I can CAD just fine, but then I can't actually bring up the task menu because the screen is stuck on Civ and right-clicking the Civ icon on the bottom taskbar and clicking close window doesn't work.

It's a shame since I'm enjoying the game and it otherwise runs fine, but I don't want to play a game that can reliably crash my computer whenever I want to exit.

I find it works when I hold down C-A-D for a few seconds, and then I can use Task Manager to kill the process. If I press the keys too quickly, everything is still black.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

prefect posted:

I find it works when I hold down C-A-D for a few seconds, and then I can use Task Manager to kill the process. If I press the keys too quickly, everything is still black.

I don't have a problem bringing up the Task Manager, it's that the background screen thing is still Civ. I can see the task bar at the bottom of the screen and that's it. I can't actually get at the Task Manager window or interact with it.

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Will the dlc likely get packaged or discounted at some point?

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

Cythereal posted:

I can CAD just fine, but then I can't actually bring up the task menu because the screen is stuck on Civ and right-clicking the Civ icon on the bottom taskbar and clicking close window doesn't work.

It's a shame since I'm enjoying the game and it otherwise runs fine, but I don't want to play a game that can reliably crash my computer whenever I want to exit.

Try to exit to the main menu before exiting to desktop, I had the crash too and that workaround usually works.

Aerdan
Apr 14, 2012

Not Dennis NEDry

John F Bennett posted:

After a long session (multiple hours) I have to restart my PC. Not because of a hard-lock, but because everything on it runs very slowly after playing CIV. Things like +10 seconds to open up the right click menu on my desktop. I check my processes but nothing regarding the game is there.

It feels like a memory leak but it's not.

Nope, no leak, just the OS paging everything out of RAM.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Magil Zeal posted:

Try to exit to the main menu before exiting to desktop, I had the crash too and that workaround usually works.

Worked like a charm, thanks.

Seriously, what is with the AI? I met England and Greece, and within ten turns they both declared war on me. England and Greece are now burning down, but it's annoying.

On the other hand, this utterly homicidal AI must make life grand if you're playing as Australia.

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Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.
I just expect the two first AIs I meet to DOW me. After that I roll in, eliminate one, and am good for the rest of the game.

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