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Nut to Butt posted:thank you. only one of those things is supported by the evidence. the rosneft article says they were planning to sell it. announcing an intent to sell 19% beforehand doesn't mean that alleged involvement with the Trump admin and its quid-pro-quo with sanctions was legal. moreover, I don't see claims that the steele dossier "has no credibility" anywhere but this thread/trumpster tweets, but I do see bits and pieces constantly getting reinforced, like the rosneft deal right as Flynn is talking to 'em, or this piece from four days ago about Kalugin claims (misspelled in dossier as Kulagin) were accurate. I won't pretend to be an expert on Ukraine foreign policy but based on surfin' wikipedia I'm pretty sure "illegally overthrown in a coup" is a rather... generous reading. "war criminal" is probably too heavy, so I'll cop to that. I'm not claiming that hillary clinton should be protected from anything so this deflection just feels like spunky's yelling again. moreover, your characterization is a damned-if-you-do/don't situation. one of Spicy's press gaggles had a real good time where he was shouting about THE FORMS, THE FORMS, WE GAVE THEM THE FORMS, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT? the obvious conclusion is that either Trump let a guy violate the emoluments clause without a fuss, or he's too stupid of a "leader" to give a poo poo about that, in which case what happened to the buck stopping at the president's desk? obviously I cannot convict tormp based on publicly available evidence, even were I a lawyer of any kind. but as an outside observer all I see is a document that keeps getting backed up while a fat blond Leslie Nielsen shouts NOTHING TO SEE HERE! FAKE NEWS! SAD! over the head-hung-low shadows of his Best People resigning in disgrace, so
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Bholder posted:Ok then why are Trump and buddies keep lying about it? They aren't, Trump is honest to a fault, he is the most inspected person in human history and they haven't found anything on him.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:He's completely exposing the corruption of the government and the machinations of control that we live under. He's already delivering No he didn't. Unless you mean he pointed it out by doing exactly that but without the tact and secrecy while glamouring all the attention to himself so now even more people pay attention to politics and know what a useless piece of poo poo it is overall.
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Prorat posted:He has done more for America and Americans than the last 3 presidents combined. I honestly believed this was a real trumper until this post. lol
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Bholder posted:No he didn't. The lying media, the corrupt Uni-Party rule that crosses Dem/Republicans lines? I mean do you honestly believe anymore the Democrats and Republicans are like 2 opposing parties at each others throats still?
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Prorat posted:He has done more for America and Americans than the last 3 presidents combined. Yet at the same time he wasn't in office enough to do anything worthwhile? Care to give an actual example?
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Prorat posted:He has done more for America and Americans than the last 3 presidents combined. Yeah, trying to take away people's health care and failing to kick out the scary Mooslims - heckuva job, Trumpy.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:The lying media, the corrupt Uni-Party rule that crosses Dem/Republicans lines? I mean do you honestly believe anymore the Democrats and Republicans are like 2 opposing parties at each others throats still? You're missing your echos
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:The lying media, the corrupt Uni-Party rule that crosses Dem/Republicans lines? I mean do you honestly believe anymore the Democrats and Republicans are like 2 opposing parties at each others throats still? Calling the media "liars" when they say something you don't like is not exposing the lying media. But gently caress that apparently the country was literally ruled by the loving illuminaty itself. All that Republican opposition in the last 4 years were apparently part of the plan. We are in secret aliens territory now!
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Bholder posted:Yet at the same time he wasn't in office enough to do anything worthwhile? Companies are now investing billions back in to the country and proposing millions of jobs, the last 3 presidents sent billions out and millions of jobs out. That alone makes him more accomplished. Everyday another CEO goes into his office and comes out with an announcement like this. You wouldn't know this if you get your info for the MSM.
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Majorian posted:Yeah, trying to take away people's health care and failing to kick out the scary Mooslims - heckuva job, Trumpy. He even failed at that, he cannot even become the horrible monster we all want him to be!
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Prorat posted:He has done more for America and Americans than the last 3 presidents combined. lol
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Majorian posted:Yeah, trying to take away people's health care and failing to kick out the scary Mooslims - heckuva job, Trumpy. None of this is reality. You live in an alternate universe.
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Prorat posted:None of this is reality. You live in an alternate universe. This is the first thing you've said that makes complete sense to me.
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Prorat posted:Companies are now investing billions back in to the country and proposing millions of jobs, the last 3 presidents sent billions out and millions of jobs out. That alone makes him more accomplished. It's a shame Obama and Bush never pulled the "JOBS" lever, you know that one that makes more jobs.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:It's a shame Obama and Bush never pulled the "JOBS" lever, you know that one that makes more jobs. No they purposely sent jobs and money out of the country. Obama said there is no magic wand that brings jobs back. A president referenced magic. (he is a liar) Trump actually is bringing jobs back, creating jobs, and getting companies to invest billions back into the country.
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Prorat posted:No they purposely sent jobs and money out of the country. Obama said there is no magic wand that brings jobs back. A president referenced magic. (he is a liar) You are literally making poo poo up right now
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Obama had the worst economic growth of any president since WW2
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Prorat posted:No they purposely sent jobs and money out of the country. Obama said there is no magic wand that brings jobs back. A president referenced magic. (he is a liar) I'm starting to think I'm being trolled and there is no way you're actually this stupid.
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Prorat posted:None of this is reality. You live in an alternate universe. I have absolutely zero doubt that this is the truth, yes.
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Prorat posted:He has done more for America and Americans than the last 3 presidents combined.    
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I created a million jobs once too and nobody reported on it, story checks out. LAMEstream media
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So we're just going to ignore the fact that Trump trusts fox and friends more than the intelligence people in the actual government he controls? Lets pretend this is normal and talk about jobs.
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Bholder posted:You are literally making poo poo up right now
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Obama had the worst economic growth of any president since WW2 The Trump administration will produce less growth overall than the Obama administration (presuming 8 years.) The administration after Trump will produce less growth than Trump's administration, etc until full failure.
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Feminasty Slut posted:So we're just going to ignore the fact that Trump trusts fox and friends more than the intelligence people in the actual government he controls? Lets pretend this is normal and talk about jobs. He created MILLIONS OF JOBS, HE WENT TO CARRIER AND PUT A GUN TO THEIR HEAD AND SAID MAKE JOB AND THEY MADE BIGLY JOB
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Bholder posted:You are literally making poo poo up right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzjty76s4Y4
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Yes, only Trump can reverse nearly 50 some years of manufacturing and mining sector decay because *fart*
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god, i miss obama.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Yes, only Trump can reverse nearly 50 some years of manufacturing and mining sector decay because *fart* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States#/media/File:US_coal_production.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States We were at the height of coal production in 2008 before Obama's regulation, you've been brainwashed into thinking coal is dead and has been dead for "nearly 50 years"
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You are claiming that there literally is a Magic Wand that creates jobs from nothing.
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Feminasty Slut posted:So we're just going to ignore the fact that Trump trusts fox and friends more than the intelligence people in the actual government he controls? Lets pretend this is normal and talk about jobs. Bigots like to use it as a distraction. I'm not a fearful bigot I voted for Trump because he's gonna give me a job! You're hired! Spunky/Prorat are persistent and sadly the persistence wears people down. It's an exercise in futility to even try to engage with them, people can't resist though. Stop engaging they are just here to stir up poo poo. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Apr 3, 2017 |
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Prorat posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States#/media/File:US_coal_production.png Coal should stay dead, propping up lovely areas that are completely economically dependent on an environmentally disastrous finite resource is really loving stupid.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Coal should stay dead, propping up lovely areas that are completely economically dependent on an environmentally disastrous finite resource is really loving stupid. That's just your opinion. And is irrelevant to this discussion.
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Prorat posted:That's just your opinion. And is irrelevant to this discussion. enjoy dumping toxic water in rivers to prop up lovely rust belt towns for another couple years that are going to die anyways. 
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Prorat posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States#/media/File:US_coal_production.png Have you actually read that page?
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Prorat posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States#/media/File:US_coal_production.png if only you had read your own link  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States#Coal_mining_employment quote:By 2017, the coal industry employed approximately 77,000 miners. Since 2011 60,000 jobs were lost.
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Prorat posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States#/media/File:US_coal_production.png i know i'm pissing into the wind with you but uh, you're sharing production, not jobs like the whole point of this deal is how advancing technology means that you don't need to throw hundreds of warm bodies into the ground to get the nice rocks back out, you can just get twenty dudes and some fancy equipment to do it for cheaper. unless you plan on federal amishization or something. efb I guess
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Bholder posted:Have you actually read that page? You know he hasn't. World War Mammories posted:i know i'm pissing into the wind with you Phrasing!
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Majorian posted:Phrasing! LINGUISTIC KILLSHOT
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