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Whenever I think of matte paintings I think of those two Cardassian friends we see several times in DS9 (even if they didn't use paintings, I think) and how they ended up 
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Powered Descent posted:From the way he tells it, it's not so much that he didn't pay his taxes for 20 years, and more that there was one year that he made an absolute shitton of money, but that's the year his wife emptied the bank accounts and ran off, leaving him without enough to pay the taxes on that income. Since he has yet to have another windfall on anything like that scale, he still can't pay the back taxes all these years later. You could argue that there's more he could have been doing to keep the IRS happy, but it's still a lovely situation that doesn't really sound like it's his fault. (I tossed him ten bucks. His novel I, Q is worth that much all by itself.) If she really stole the money he should have sued her over it in the divorce. And like I said above, if he'd actually worked with the IRS instead of ignoring and assuming it had gone away as he himself states, then he wouldn't be in this situation.
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Apr 3, 2017 05:10
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Kibayasu posted:Whenever I think of matte paintings I think of those two Cardassian friends we see several times in DS9 (even if they didn't use paintings, I think) and how they ended up Those two guys always listening to state broadcasts?
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Apr 3, 2017 05:19
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Kibayasu posted:Whenever I think of matte paintings I think of those two Cardassian friends we see several times in DS9 (even if they didn't use paintings, I think) and how they ended up I've only seen it once but I know exactly who you're talking about. Maybe they go up there to smoke.
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Apr 3, 2017 05:22
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Kibayasu posted:Whenever I think of matte paintings I think of those two Cardassian friends we see several times in DS9 (even if they didn't use paintings, I think) and how they ended up They're hanging out with the two Stargate security guards outside Cheyenne Mountain.
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Apr 3, 2017 05:33
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Rhyno posted:If she really stole the money he should have sued her over it in the divorce. And like I said above, if he'd actually worked with the IRS instead of ignoring and assuming it had gone away as he himself states, then he wouldn't be in this situation. I think he just basically assumed "next year" he'd have another big windfall of a tv show and that would solve his woes.
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Apr 3, 2017 05:42
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Pakled posted:The one that always stuck out to me was this matte painting from TNG that they used like three times for three different planets. Yeah, that one got used so much you might as well tell yourself it's the generic loading screen for the next scene.
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Apr 3, 2017 05:57
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Astroman posted:I think he just basically assumed "next year" he'd have another big windfall of a tv show and that would solve his woes. Well that's short sighted on his part and not a good excuse either. He admitted he thought they'd just give up and go away at some point and it doesn't sound like he ever tried to work out a settlement or payment plan.
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Apr 3, 2017 06:29
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I always noticed the Generic Alien City, the reuse really stuck out. They edited it a bit to vary it up in TNG: HD, at least.
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Apr 3, 2017 06:57
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Astroman posted:I think he just basically assumed "next year" he'd have another big windfall of a tv show and that would solve his woes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO0JBFlof90 I knew Jewel Staite was in that, I didn't realize the black Power Ranger was. Edit: That's weird, for me at least that video doesn't have audio when embedded, but it does if you watch it on Youtube.
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Apr 3, 2017 08:01
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Thanks to Ex Astria, I now know the name of this prop that got used all the drat time!
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Apr 3, 2017 08:19
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Pakled posted:The one that always stuck out to me was this matte painting from TNG that they used like three times for three different planets. This is a rad painting.
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Apr 3, 2017 08:29
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The_Doctor posted:Thanks to Ex Astria, I now know the name of this prop that got used all the drat time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG-0V-85H_0&t=101s
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Apr 3, 2017 09:02
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It's totally understandable that TOS had to skimp on the budget at times, but less excusable is that one Klingon Bird Of Prey explosion from the movies...
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Apr 3, 2017 13:39
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Astroman posted:I think he just basically assumed "next year" he'd have another big windfall of a tv show and that would solve his woes. Rule of Acquisition # 10 If you ain't got the clientele say hell no Cuz they gon want they money rain sleet hail snow
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Apr 3, 2017 16:57
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It's been a while since I watched Airplane so I was worrying a little that maybe I was finally old enough to just lose entire sections of my memory; thankfully it's just been even longer since I watched 2.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:14
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Sir Lemming posted:It's totally understandable that TOS had to skimp on the budget at times, but less excusable is that one Klingon Bird Of Prey explosion from the movies... Hey, reusing that explosion let them pay for new uniforms that they didn't use
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Apr 3, 2017 17:15
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Kibayasu posted:Did...did Voyager copy Move Along Home? I've been reiminaging bad TNG and DS9 episodes as voyager episodes, to see if they sound better on Voyager. I cannot think of a version of Profit and Lace that isn't horribly sexiest.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:22
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Sir Lemming posted:It's totally understandable that TOS had to skimp on the budget at times, but less excusable is that one Klingon Bird Of Prey explosion from the movies... They really had no money on Generations.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:45
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Timby posted:They really had no money on Generations. But stellar cartography. I remember some production marketing video where they just gush about how that set was pretty much the star of the movie and oh my god you gotta go see this movie we made a stellar cartography set it's the key to everything.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:49
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Timby posted:They really had no money on Generations. "We do not discuss the TNG movies with outsiders." :worfsay:
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Apr 3, 2017 17:53
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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Baronjutter posted:But stellar cartography. Yeah, and Zimmerman botched the initial build of Stellar Cartography -- he initially painted everything with this super-reflective chrome color, never pausing to think, "Oh, poo poo, this set has giant blue screens all over it, there might be spill issues." Well, turned out there were spill issues, really bad ones, and so after shooting for a day or two on the set, they actually lost a whole bunch of time because the crew had to hose down just about every piece of the set with dulling spray, and time was a luxury they didn't have, at all, on that movie, since they were rushing to meet the November release.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:55
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Today I learned that the pilot episode for Voyager cost more to produce than The Wrath of Khan.
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Apr 3, 2017 18:41
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Wheat Loaf posted:Today I learned that the pilot episode for Voyager cost more to produce than The Wrath of Khan. Didn't help they had to reshoot a ton of it because they had to recast Janeway and start over
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Apr 3, 2017 19:23
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McNally posted:Hey, reusing that explosion let them pay for new uniforms that they didn't use I can't believe there isn't more about the uniforms out there. Took me ages to find even these pics. I'd have thought a fair few would have made it to auctions and whatnot. They do look pretty terrible though.  
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Apr 3, 2017 19:57
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skooma512 posted:Didn't help they had to reshoot a ton of it because they had to recast Janeway and start over "A ton" is overstating it by a significant amount -- Bujold was only on the set for about a day and a half before she walked off. Caretaker was so expensive because they had to build a metric poo poo-ton of new sets, both the CGI and physical models of Voyager, they did a lot of crazy-expensive location shooting and because it was to be the flagship of UPN, they got some extra money to pad out the shooting schedule; the two-parter was shot over the course of 31 days. (For comparison's sake, All Good Things... was shot over seventeen days.)
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Apr 3, 2017 20:05
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The_Doctor posted:I can't believe there isn't more about the uniforms out there. Took me ages to find even these pics. I'd have thought a fair few would have made it to auctions and whatnot. They do look pretty terrible though. quote:However concern over presenting too many new elements led to those costumes being dropped from the movie just as filming began No! They changed the collars! It was black but now it's red! I can't process it! What is this ronald mcdonald mickey mouse bullshit!
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Apr 3, 2017 20:08
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Reading through The 50 Year Mission, I was completely unaware that Kate Mulgrew was pissed at Jeri Ryan for most of the last three seasons of the show. I also have a better respect for Robert Beltran being candid about all of the behind the scenes stuff. Disappointed that they didn't get to talk to Robert Picardo.
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Apr 3, 2017 20:21
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vermin posted:No! They changed the collars! It was black but now it's red! I can't process it! What is this ronald mcdonald mickey mouse bullshit! You joke, but I'd lay better than even odds they'd have got this exact angry fan letter. Verbatim.
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Apr 3, 2017 20:28
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FlamingLiberal posted:Reading through The 50 Year Mission, I was completely unaware that Kate Mulgrew was pissed at Jeri Ryan for most of the last three seasons of the show. I also have a better respect for Robert Beltran being candid about all of the behind the scenes stuff. Disappointed that they didn't get to talk to Robert Picardo. Jeri Ryan opened up quite a bit about her experiences with Mulgrew on an episode of a podcast -- I want to say it was Aisha Tyler's? Anyway, she never named names, but it was clear that she was talking about Mulgrew, and how Mulgrew treated her like crap. For example, if Ryan needed to use the bathroom, it took like a half-hour and a few crew members to get her out of her costume and corset and whatnot, and Mulgrew would start throwing passive-aggressive tantrums about it. Or when they were doing one-shot coverage on scenes, Mulgrew would be off-camera thumbing through a book or just half-assing her lines while Ryan's supposed to be playing intense stuff for the camera. Here it is. As for Picardo, he's always come across as the consummate actor's actor, in that if he doesn't have anything nice to say, he won't say anything at all. I've always had the impression that he enjoyed his work on Voyager but he wasn't a fan of the working environment.
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Apr 3, 2017 20:33
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I've heard that Picardo gets very upset when people tell him he was the only good actor on Voyager because he feels it disrespects the hard work the whole cast put into it.
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Apr 3, 2017 20:46
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I always felt Voyager's cast did the best with what they were given. Even good actors struggled when given poo poo to work with. I really need to get 50 year mission, is it on kindle?
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Apr 3, 2017 20:51
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've heard that Picardo gets very upset when people tell him he was the only good actor on Voyager because he feels it disrespects the hard work the whole cast put into it. As FrensaGerans found out.  Edit:  twistedmentat posted:I really need to get 50 year mission, is it on kindle? Yeah, the two books together are maybe $40? Timby fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Apr 3, 2017 |
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Apr 3, 2017 20:54
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twistedmentat posted:I always felt Voyager's cast did the best with what they were given. Even good actors struggled when given poo poo to work with. It's on everything, including audiobook. Audiobook is a bit hard to follow and lengthy.
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Apr 3, 2017 20:55
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dont even fink about it posted:It's on everything, including audiobook. Audiobook is a bit hard to follow and lengthy. I've heard bad things about the audiobook. It makes a great ebook on my phone. Easy to pick up and put down whenever for any length of reading.
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Apr 3, 2017 21:03
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've heard that Picardo gets very upset when people tell him he was the only good actor on Voyager because he feels it disrespects the hard work the whole cast put into it. To be fair, it is objectively untrue. Mulgrew and Ryan are both fantastic actresses and Beltran is pretty passable when given something where the writing doesn't kill his will to live.
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Apr 3, 2017 21:07
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dont even fink about it posted:It's on everything, including audiobook. Audiobook is a bit hard to follow and lengthy. I got the audiobook from the library. It's actually pretty hilarious. The readers butcher pronunciations of places and technology and they try to emulate people's accents. I don't know if Winrich Kolbe sounds quite that German, but it's kind of funny when the reader hams it up. Mulgrew's reader tried to do the purring thing she does. That book did give me respect for the process and how we end up with bad episodes. I'm also less inclined to blame actors for anything, they just read what they're given and would do a much better job if they were given much better stuff.
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Apr 3, 2017 21:15
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skooma512 posted:I'm also less inclined to blame actors for anything, they just read what they're given and would do a much better job if they were given much better stuff. Stewart and Spiner are both directly to blame for Insurrection and Nemesis, respectively.
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Apr 3, 2017 21:43
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skooma512 posted:I got the audiobook from the library. I have not listened to most of the second half, I quit when I got to the end of the TNG movies because idgaf about DS9 or Voyager and before then there are only 1 or 2 mispronunciations I can remember ("fortuicious"). The quality of the actors seemed to slide on the second book, though. The Voyager stuff sounds funny though, maybe I'll give it a shot.
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Admiral Jameson's makeup, man. He looks like a product of the Jim Henson company.
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