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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

D.N. Nation posted:

He's....written on the subject in the past and this is what he actually believes?

I'm not sure it's appropriate to say that Rall really believes anything, other than "I am the smartest" and "everyone else sucks."

Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Apr 3, 2017

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SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"

Potato Salad posted:



yes there are grammar errors, gently caress you i'm typing while furious

:five:

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

doodlebugs posted:

Ted Rall was in favour of the invasion of Afghanistan before he was against it.




To clarify the jumbled Rallthink here:
  1. Boris Yeltsin is to blame for the dissolution of the USSR
  2. The USSR would otherwise have been occupying Afghanistan
  3. Said occupation of Afghanistan would have prevented 9/11
  4. Without 9/11, the US would not be "running amok"
  5. The invasion of Iraq thus would not have happened
  6. The invasion of Iraq killed a million Iraqis
  7. Therefore, everything is Yeltsin's fault and he was a drunk monster with the wrong religious beliefs whose death should be laughed at forever
  8. Ted Rall is the best

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

Yeltsin liked Citizen Kane just as much as Mandela

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Potato Salad posted:



yes there are grammar errors, gently caress you i'm typing while furious

you didn't label the x-axis, 0/100 see me after class

FaradayCage
May 2, 2010

...what?

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



sleeptalker posted:

To clarify the jumbled Rallthink here:
[*]Boris Yeltsin is to blame for the dissolution of the USSR
[*]The USSR would otherwise have been occupying Afghanistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_withdrawal_from_Afghanistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union

1988-1989 and December 1991, respectively. Just in case anyone was unsure.

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC

Remember how two weeks ago there was stuff about the CIA reading your thoughts from the microwave or whatever other insanity people spun up from a wikileaks dump?

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type




Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


My First Cartoon, by Yaakov Kirschen, age 9.

chases dirt

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

I just looked this up, and the one that was moved was because a different Holocaust survivor wanted it moved elsewhere cause it brought on flashbacks. Unrelated, a different Dutch couple has sued the city cause they say the memorial stone is bringing down property values, but the case hasn't been argued or anything yet.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


I will never understand Kirschen well enough to get a glimpse on how his views are consistent from his frame of reference.

Every time I feel like I'm getting close, bam. I don't know what parts of my own worldview need to be dropped or modified to be able to appreciate his work.

Rebochan
Feb 2, 2006

Take my evolution

Saw this floating around my Facebook feed, enjoy the words words words

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

I would never have expected to see Bécassine fan art in the Politoon thread.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

sleeptalker posted:

To clarify the jumbled Rallthink here:
  1. Boris Yeltsin is to blame for the dissolution of the USSR
  2. The USSR would otherwise have been occupying Afghanistan
  3. Said occupation of Afghanistan would have prevented 9/11
  4. Without 9/11, the US would not be "running amok"
  5. The invasion of Iraq thus would not have happened
  6. The invasion of Iraq killed a million Iraqis
  7. Therefore, everything is Yeltsin's fault and he was a drunk monster with the wrong religious beliefs whose death should be laughed at forever
  8. Ted Rall is the best
He's depicting Yeltsin in Limbo because some of the those things are good (the USSR falling, ending the occupation of Afghanistan) but others are bad (the US running amok, 9/11, etc.)

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

That's still dumb and shallow and Rall is an rear end, but it's not a complex statement.

D O R K Y
Sep 1, 2001

Rebochan posted:

Saw this floating around my Facebook feed, enjoy the words words words



"Exactly! Now you know how I feel about being called 'intolerant' on the gay marriage issue!"

Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science

Rebochan posted:

Saw this floating around my Facebook feed, enjoy the words words words



They should be more concerned about the quicksand they're sinking into than internet privacy.


"I'm being murdered for DNC CNN SCANDAL!"

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Internet Webguy posted:

They should be more concerned about the quicksand they're sinking into than internet privacy.


"I'm being murdered for DNC CNN SCANDAL!"

Meanwhile, splattered across the walls of the rest of the house,

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

those poor tomatoes :smith:

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Internet Webguy posted:

They should be more concerned about the quicksand they're sinking into than internet privacy.


"I'm being murdered for DNC CNN SCANDAL!"

Branco trying to cut out the other 3/4 of the house covered in poo poo smears forming the words "TRUMP AND COMPANY" over and over again.

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


Internet Webguy posted:

They should be more concerned about the quicksand they're sinking into than internet privacy.


"I'm being murdered for DNC CNN SCANDAL!"
Fixed:

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
Dinosaur Gum

:piaa:

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Martin Rowson on the British passport's post-Brexit redesign - The UK passport could turn dark blue again after Brexit under a £490m contract to redesign and produce a new version of the document."

Independent:


Times:

Boat Races go ahead after WW2 bomb find

Bonus! Prospect magazine:

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

Cat Mattress posted:

I would never have expected to see Bécassine fan art in the Politoon thread.

Nope, a brand of kitchen cleaning stuff:

SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"

Internet Webguy posted:

They should be more concerned about the quicksand they're sinking into than internet privacy.


"I'm being murdered for DNC CNN SCANDAL!"

I'm excited to see what Garrison/Dees-level delusions Branco will come up with when he runs out of excuses for Trump's behavior. :allears:

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

loquacius posted:

Ted Rall has always been paid to make political cartoons :confused: (not enough for his liking of course, as he frequently points out)

I meant paid by Russia to suck their cock.

Schizotek
Nov 8, 2011

I say, hey, listen to me!
Stay sane inside insanity!!!

rodbeard posted:

I love how the guy threatening to not come back from the dead if he doesn't get his theocracy back is somehow taken seriously on the world stage.
The stupidest and tankiest of takes.
He's a socialist who doesn't even advocate for a completely independent Tibet, he just wants the PRC to stop being poo poo heels. The not-reincarnating thing isn't so he can be made some sort of priest king, it's to prevent the Chinese government from instating a puppet Lama, which itself would be a theocratic takeover.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

I still have no idea how Kirschen stays employed. I guess they just don't give a poo poo and they're probably paying him less than an actual staff cartoonist.

Easy Salmon Recipe
Jan 10, 2017

Horrible Lurkbeast posted:

I like how Tedd makes even Derf look accomplished.

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I like Derf's style. The weird proportions and stylized features seems deliberate, and his work shows improvement over time. Unlike Ted, who's just spent his entire career wallowing in the pigshit that is his drawing style.

Come to think of it, he probably thinks "Other cartoonists change and evolve because they're not as good as me. My style cannot be improved upon, and is perfect."

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

FronzelNeekburm posted:

Didn't Wikileaks say that their anonymous submission process made it impossible to know who their sources were? Or at least that they wouldn't reveal anyone?
Then what do they use to verify?

Skippy Granola
Sep 3, 2011

It's not what it looks like.

Pants Donkey posted:

I still have no idea how Kirschen stays employed. I guess they just don't give a poo poo and they're probably paying him less than an actual staff cartoonist.

He just keeps emailing them gifs and they keep printing them so he stops showing up at the office

King Possum III
Feb 15, 2016

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Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Potato Salad posted:

I will never understand Kirschen well enough to get a glimpse on how his views are consistent from his frame of reference.

Every time I feel like I'm getting close, bam. I don't know what parts of my own worldview need to be dropped or modified to be able to appreciate his work.

Your mistake is that you're assuming he values consistency or avoiding hypocrisy. A lot of people's political positions make a lot more sense when you realize that those aren't values they have. It's 100% about "I want to support my team, how do I do this in this context, disregarding all others?"

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

Internet Webguy posted:


"I'm being murdered for DNC CNN SCANDAL!"

Hahahaha holy poo poo, it's literally BUT HER EMAILS

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
By this time in 2013, nobody was talking about Romney, but Trump has so little going for him that conservatives don't have anything to rally around except "Hillary is so bad, guys."

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Easy Salmon Recipe posted:

I like Derf's style. The weird proportions and stylized features seems deliberate, and his work shows improvement over time. Unlike Ted, who's just spent his entire career wallowing in the pigshit that is his drawing style.


You are right and if I met Derf I'd apologise for dragging his name through the mud.
I should have compared Tedd to Branco.

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

FactsAreUseless posted:

That's still dumb and shallow and Rall is an rear end, but it's not a complex statement.

Just catching up and I wanted to throw in my favorite Toad Rule moment: his Mother's Day comic was all about how he, Ped Shule, overcame his mother's inability to speak English well to become great.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Internet Webguy posted:

They should be more concerned about the quicksand they're sinking into than internet privacy.


"I'm being murdered for DNC CNN SCANDAL!"
WHY WON'T ANYONE CARE ABOUT THAT LOSER HILLARY?

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HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Vib Rib posted:

Then what do they use to verify?

I thought the point was that they don't and can't.

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