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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I love how right in the middle of all the coded language there are clear references to actual children and grandchildren, which they clearly want to "demolish".

What is "children" code for? Armadillos?



E: perhaps fat dogs

Somebody fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Apr 4, 2017

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Data Graham posted:

I love how right in the middle of all the coded language there are clear references to actual children and grandchildren, which they clearly want to "demolish".

What is "children" code for? Armadillos?

Pizza :v:

Edit: the real scandal here is who the gently caress plays dominos

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
pizzagaters are the dumb fucks that walk up to weed dealers all sweaty palmed and say "uhh.. im planting a garden, and i need, uh... some shrubs" and they think that child porn works on the same level of subtlety

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

I'm wondering why the brain trust didn't read that and decide that a popular pizza delivery chain were also in on the conspiracy. Domino's have been taunting us with the truth in their name for years and we didn't see it there hiding in plain sight.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Data Graham posted:

I love how right in the middle of all the coded language there are clear references to actual children and grandchildren, which they clearly want to "demolish".
Maybe even pizzagaters know that he's talking about "demolishing" the tasty cheese with his kids by eating it all really fast.

Or he's going to actually demolish them. Has anyone checked to make sure his kids are un-demolished? :eek:

This all reminds me of when Glenn Beck thought SA was some kind of secret CIA thing.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

dwarf74 posted:

Maybe even pizzagaters know that he's talking about "demolishing" the tasty cheese with his kids by eating it all really fast.

Or he's going to actually demolish them. Has anyone checked to make sure his kids are un-demolished? :eek:

This all reminds me of when Glenn Beck thought SA was some kind of secret CIA thing.

That was all Vilerats fault

smoke sumthin bitch
Dec 14, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
id like to see you deniers try to rationalise this one https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736


pedosta posted:

We plan to heat the pool, so a swim is a possibility. Bonnie will be
>> Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and
>> almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment

:wtc:

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
"what the gently caress kind of child enjoys swimming in a pool" says the man with multiple life altering drug habits

vseslav.botkin
Feb 18, 2007
Professor

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

id like to see you deniers try to rationalise this one https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736

http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/about/leadership/tamera-luzzatto

That's a mom joke. Do you not hang around moms?

And that obviously can't be about pedophilia because it doesn't refer to them as pizza.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

id like to see you deniers try to rationalise this one https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736


:wtc:

Kids are entertaining. You should have some sometime... actually you probably shouldn't.

Also why would they eschew the coded talk if they were so intent on hiding their activities?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

GutBomb posted:

Also why would they eschew the coded talk if they were so intent on hiding their activities?

"the illuminati gets off on hiding in plain sight" explains the person who has destroyed their mental faculties with quasi-legal russian research chemicals

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Has there ever been any academic work into why conspiracy theorists are obsessed in reading secret codes and messages in completely innocuous things? It's completely bonkers to me that people would honestly think that the Super Secret Illuminati Shadow Communist Lizards would go through all the trouble to hide their existence... only to leave loving easter eggs everywhere like it's a goddamn video game.

I know the human brain tends to look for patterns, even if there's none to be found, but surely there's an upper limit.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

SteelMentor posted:

Has there ever been any academic work into why conspiracy theorists are obsessed in reading secret codes and messages in completely innocuous things? It's completely bonkers to me that people would honestly think that the Super Secret Illuminati Shadow Communist Lizards would go through all the trouble to hide their existence... only to leave loving easter eggs everywhere like it's a goddamn video game.

I know the human brain tends to look for patterns, even if there's none to be found, but surely there's an upper limit.

Schizophrenia

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

SteelMentor posted:

Has there ever been any academic work into why conspiracy theorists are obsessed in reading secret codes and messages in completely innocuous things? It's completely bonkers to me that people would honestly think that the Super Secret Illuminati Shadow Communist Lizards would go through all the trouble to hide their existence... only to leave loving easter eggs everywhere like it's a goddamn video game.

I know the human brain tends to look for patterns, even if there's none to be found, but surely there's an upper limit.

You're very clever, young man, very clever. But it's psychic alien lizards all the way down.

smoke sumthin bitch
Dec 14, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

boner confessor posted:

"what the gently caress kind of child enjoys swimming in a pool" says the man with multiple life altering drug habits

you seem to be obsessed with my alleged past drug use but half the politicians youre defending spend most of their days completely gone off a combination of cocaine, oxycontin, xanax, amphetamines and liquor... its kinda creepy and hypocritical

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

GreyjoyBastard posted:

You're very clever, young man, very clever. But it's psychic alien lizards all the way down.

Ah, but how do the Mole People and Reverse Vampires factor into things?

We're through the looking glass here people.


Edit:

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

you seem to be obsessed with my alleged past drug use but half the politicians youre defending spend most of their days completely gone off a combination of cocaine, oxycontin, xanax, amphetamines and liquor... its kinda creepy and hypocritical

Get help. For real. You're a nutter.

SteelMentor fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Apr 4, 2017

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

you seem to be obsessed with my alleged past drug use but half the politicians youre defending spend most of their days completely gone off a combination of cocaine, oxycontin, xanax, amphetamines and liquor... its kinda creepy and hypocritical

alleged? you realize anyone can click your post history and see the many posts where you talk about combining benzos, opiates, and the hilarious goon killer phenazepam?

also lol that your best defense here is "you think I'M hosed up on drugs? i'm not doing anything worse than the pedophiles" which, uh, you shouldn't be comparing yourself to those guys

maybe, uh, you're not that good at arguing, persuasion, communcation... thinking really. maybe you're just bad at using your mind to come up with ideas and share them with other people. sustained heavy drug use tends to do that to people

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

id like to see you deniers try to rationalise this one https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736


:wtc:

lol infowarriors obviously don't have children or a family of any kind

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Sir Tonk posted:

lol infowarriors obviously don't have children or a family of any kind

well it's hard to know the habits of the elusive child if you're not allowed within 500 feet of a school, playground, or bus stop

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

id like to see you deniers try to rationalise this one https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736


:wtc:

So you've given up on the platinum, totally solid proof provided by the "playing dominoes on cheese" email then?

This email doesn't really need rationalising. It might surprise you to learn that adults can enjoy being around young kids and find them entertaining without wanting to gently caress them.

Seriously, reading through the pizzagate threads and such like on Reddit etc, you can't help but notice the number of pizzagaters wailing and gnashing their teeth over these poor children who also seem incapable of reading about a child or seeing a photo of a child without imagining them being abused. There's some projection going on I think

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Illuminti posted:

So you've given up on the platinum, totally solid proof provided by the "playing dominoes on cheese" email then?

This email doesn't really need rationalising. It might surprise you to learn that adults can enjoy being around young kids and find them entertaining without wanting to gently caress them.

Seriously, reading through the pizzagate threads and such like on Reddit etc, you can't help but notice the number of pizzagaters wailing and gnashing their teeth over these poor children who also seem incapable of reading about a child or seeing a photo of a child without imagining them being abused. There's some projection going on I think

Well the venn diagram of pizzagaters and people who post

is pretty much a circle.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Illuminti posted:

Seriously, reading through the pizzagate threads and such like on Reddit etc, you can't help but notice the number of pizzagaters wailing and gnashing their teeth over these poor children who also seem incapable of reading about a child or seeing a photo of a child without imagining them being abused. There's some projection going on I think

i dont think it's that complicated

really it's just a bunch of low functioning individuals who have collectively decided that politicans are bad, and they're vocalizing this using the harshest language they know

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Illuminti posted:

m.

Seriously, reading through the pizzagate threads and such like on Reddit etc, you can't help but notice the number of pizzagaters wailing and gnashing their teeth over these poor children who also seem incapable of reading about a child or seeing a photo of a child without imagining them being abused. There's some projection going on I think

Goes without saying really, when the main source for your conspiracy about child molestation is 4chan.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

fishmech posted:

Well the venn diagram of pizzagaters and people who post

is pretty much a circle.

Wow that sure is an opening statement

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan
It's not pedophilia, it's libertarianism!

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

id like to see you deniers try to rationalise this one https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736

:wtc:
You can't be loving serious.

This is the best you got?

An email where some kids are coming over to play in the pool? And where we know the kids' names?

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Data Graham posted:

Why does 120DoS exist? Is it playing upon the real tendencies of human beings to go bugfuck insane with the things that turn them on once they're no longer moored by the concerns of everyday life? Or is it just a grotesque fantasy cooked up to demonize a strawman master class: "I bet this is the kind of thing these sickos get up to, lord knows they have nothing better to do"

I assume and hope other people are better informed about this than I am.

To understand 120 Days of Sodom you need to understand the circumstances of how it came to be written, which are nothing like you ever see in movies or TV where de Sade is a sexual madman or Machiavelli-like figure.


As a young man, de Sade was convicted of sodomising a prostitute, a crime which carried the penalty of death by guillotine. Yeah, holy poo poo, right.

As he was rich, the sentence was commuted to imprisonment in the Bastille. Again, unlike most movies and TV, the Bastille - if you were rich - was not the den of suffering you always see it depicted as. De Sade had his own personal furniture and bedding, his books and even had his pastry chef deliver regular meals and treats for him to ease his burden.

Because of all those treats and not being able to exercise, he soon grew so fat he could hardly even stand. At this point he realised he needed another outlet, so he took up writing.

He wrote many treatises and books, many of which were lost in the storming of the Bastille or he simply burned himself when he became unhappy with them. Locked in a cage, and in the mountain of his own flesh, his works took a turn to the cruel, the sexual and almost without fail, and maybe even without realising, a thread of justification for his own crime with characters who did a thousand times worse and waxed poetic on how their deeds were not crime, but simply natural. Or even virtuous.

He was a bitter, pathetic and lonely man and poured that into his works in a way which can still shock 200 years later.

But mostly he wrote with one hand.

If you know what I mean

:fap:


Yes, the infamous de Sade was an obese goon writing torture porn slash fic about how unfair it was he was in jail and how all those bitches should suffer. He was r/MRA hundreds of years before the red pill ever existed.

Truly a visionary.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

id like to see you deniers try to rationalise this one https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736


:wtc:

Do you have any more incredible zingers like this one? I find it amusing when deranged morons get demolished for posting implausibly bad "evidence"

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

Gorilla Salad posted:



Yes, the infamous de Sade was an obese goon writing torture porn slash fic about how unfair it was he was in jail and how all those bitches should suffer. He was r/MRA hundreds of years before the red pill ever existed.

Truly a visionary.

Wow, they should have him on a flag. Or maybe a pin on a fedora.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

SteelMentor posted:

Has there ever been any academic work into why conspiracy theorists are obsessed in reading secret codes and messages in completely innocuous things? It's completely bonkers to me that people would honestly think that the Super Secret Illuminati Shadow Communist Lizards would go through all the trouble to hide their existence... only to leave loving easter eggs everywhere like it's a goddamn video game.

I know the human brain tends to look for patterns, even if there's none to be found, but surely there's an upper limit.
Conspiracy theorizing comes from the same place as seeing patterns in noise, because it's the same general principle. Your brain is basically cranking up its signal-detection and trying to make sense of what's going on in the environment. In certain states of mind people will be more likely to see patterns in white-noise images; the same state of mind also makes people more likely to perceive conspiracies in their social surroundings.

The "illuminazi reptile symbols everywhere" conspiracy theory doesn't make sense because it's not based on any sort of initial theory. It's just based on the perception that these symbols are out there, their placement is delibrate, so now we need to figure out why. A lot of people stop there but David Icke has a semi-coherent (but completely bonkers, it is David Icke after all) theory of why the illuminati are so keen on putting triangles everywhere - he thinks that the interdimensional reptoids feed off human psychic energy, and their symbols are like little ghostbuster traps that funnel your thought-energy to their lizard batteries. (Also, that's why they abuse kids - because they can reap energy from children's suffering)

Modrasone
Jul 27, 2008

HE WANTS THIS AND SO SHOULD YOU!
I don't think it's an accident that there's a lot of crossover between this stuff and the nu-atheism crowd. Also that a lot of these people come from the Bible Belt. It's a simple symbol system that explains the world in terms of absolute good and evil. We're watching Religion via Crowdsourcing.

Adherents of this ratpiss find themselves as learned initiates with special knowledge that the masses don't know that puts them on the side of the good guys against an evil that is ensnaring this world. If this poo poo was going around 2000 years ago (that's pre-internet) then it would only take a few generations before Priests (known as Leakers) would be telling their congregation, that no, it's really just a metaphor and The Podesta doesn't really live in a giant Pizza Oven in the Netherworld smashing the souls of infants with a mix of Pepperoni and semen and the teachings of The Assange actually contain some pretty chill stuff about the morality of data protection.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Modrasone posted:

I don't think it's an accident that there's a lot of crossover between this stuff and the nu-atheism crowd.
...really?

I think I need some examples, because I've mostly seen overlap in the skeptic and atheist crowds.

Lager
Mar 9, 2004

Give me the secret to the anti-puppet equation!

dwarf74 posted:

...really?

I think I need some examples, because I've mostly seen overlap in the skeptic and atheist crowds.

I think he's referencing fedora corps types. A very specific type of atheist that annoys the hell out of other atheists.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Lager posted:

I think he's referencing fedora corps types. A very specific type of atheist that annoys the hell out of other atheists.
Yeah, ok, that makes more sense.

Thanks.

I am not hip to the new lingos with the Kids These Days.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Difference in their taste in conspiracies however. They're much more "Leftists and Feminists want Muslims to come over and cuck our white women and create a multicultural dystopia" than "Lizard Jews are rounding up children for Podesta in FEMA camps"

Not that there's not an overlap ofc.

Comrayn
Jul 22, 2008

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

id like to see you deniers try to rationalise this one https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736


:wtc:

This is the most normal boring mom and dad email ever written lmao

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

id like to see you deniers try to rationalise this one https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736


:wtc:

I email or text my family about my son all the time. If you read those emails, you would assume it was coded messages about secret society rituals. In reality, it's me telling my wife how our son loves Snapchat filters and making stupid faces. Point being, you have an issue discerning truth from fantasy and should seek help.

An example: "three time zones, two small children... we are going to be late."

Oh man are they gonna be late because of evil?!

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Comrayn posted:

This is the most normal boring mom and dad email ever written lmao

I think the person earlier had the right of it who noted that it takes someone who will be forever childless and who lives in a fantasy world of anime and porn to look at those emails and think "Myep, there's no way to interpret that in any way other than an intricate code for child molestation".

Grandparent-age people like watching kids have fun in pools. It's entertaining. This is how humans have operated for quite some time.

Pity the redditor who has forgotten being that kid in the pool, with the parents/grandparents lounging on the side cheering him on.

Modrasone
Jul 27, 2008

HE WANTS THIS AND SO SHOULD YOU!
On further thought I think Truther is a better name for the Future Priests.

FUTUREMAN - "Forgive me Truther, for I have Benghazi'ed. It has been three months since my last Leak."

TRUTHER - "May Assange the Most Encypted bless you with a thorough and socially-engineered Leak."

FUTUREMAN - "Truther, since my last Leak I have on several occasions coveted the data of my neighbours, I have taken several mainstream news reports at face value and have converted a small amount of my Bitcoins into fiat money in order to feed my children."

TRUTHER - "Assange, he of the greatest Truth, hears your Leak."

FUTUREMAN - "I am truly sorry for these transgressions against the Wiki most holy. May my tears be transferred with triple layer encryption from peer to peer until The Assange chooses to forgive me."

TRUTHER - "The Assange sees you are truly penitent and that thine mind is woke as gently caress. However as penance you must recite the blockchain three times and post a bunch of flat earth poo poo to Reddit"

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fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Modrasone posted:

On further thought I think Truther is a better name for the Future Priests.

FUTUREMAN - "Forgive me Truther, for I have Benghazi'ed. It has been three months since my last Leak."

TRUTHER - "May Assange the Most Encypted bless you with a thorough and socially-engineered Leak."

FUTUREMAN - "Truther, since my last Leak I have on several occasions coveted the data of my neighbours, I have taken several mainstream news reports at face value and have converted a small amount of my Bitcoins into fiat money in order to feed my children."

TRUTHER - "Assange, he of the greatest Truth, hears your Leak."

FUTUREMAN - "I am truly sorry for these transgressions against the Wiki most holy. May my tears be transferred with triple layer encryption from peer to peer until The Assange chooses to forgive me."

TRUTHER - "The Assange sees you are truly penitent and that thine mind is woke as gently caress. However as penance you must recite the blockchain three times and post a bunch of flat earth poo poo to Reddit"

This is great.

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