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So they are building Bratva as the next big bad, right? Ollie has done nothing but screw them over since he got back home. It would be properly tragic considering his past with the current leader. Like soap opera tragic, perfect for the CW.
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Aleph Null posted:So they are building Bratva as the next big bad, right? Ollie has done nothing but screw them over since he got back home. Doubt it. Unless they went full KGBeast, which would be really odd considering this version of Anatoly .
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Apr 3, 2017 18:53
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Aleph Null posted:So they are building Bratva as the next big bad, right? Ollie has done nothing but screw them over since he got back home. It's actually hard to say. There's also Talia still kicking about I believe, Vigilante (though more of a B-plot at this point), and Helix (same, but even more threatening).
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Apr 3, 2017 23:45
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There's a lot of Bratva, X al Ghul/League of Assassins, and Helix directions they could go but we have no idea how this season will end as far as Oliver's identity, legal status, and political career and most of the past seasons have introduced a new villain. Plus the flashbacks are almost caught up now so we don't really know what they're going to do with that next season. I mean, five episodes is still a lot of time to clean off the board and setup new pieces.
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Apr 4, 2017 00:13
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Scrap the show, start up... Justice Society of America!
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Apr 4, 2017 00:14
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We still need sports master like the one in young justice.
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Apr 4, 2017 00:19
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They kinda, sorta blew The Justice Society on Legends. Plus I'm holding out hope that Jay Garrick's got a super hero team over on Earth 19 or whatever it is. Besides, Oliver's team is clearly The Outsiders and Black Lightning entering the Arrow-verse just confirms that for me.
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Apr 4, 2017 00:48
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:He will always be Billy to me. I miss Sirens.
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Apr 4, 2017 01:35
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All the Manu bitching was actually setup for his return.
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muscles like this! posted:I miss Sirens. Don't worry she's a regular next season.
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Rhyno posted:I used SG1 as an example because I want to see them shoot some insanely exaggerated action sequences and have the witness be like "AND THEN HE SHOT 40 ARROWS AND IT STOPPED THE TRUCK DEAD " and poo poo like that. The Rashomon episode of Batman TAS was pretty great for this too. (Not "Legends of the Dark Knight", this one.)
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I'm sad they killed off Church so early, I love that actor
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McSpanky posted:The Rashomon episode of Batman TAS was pretty great for this too. (Not "Legends of the Dark Knight", this one.) There was also "Almost Got im" where all the villains are sitting around comparing death traps that almost worked while they play poker.
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howe_sam posted:There was also "Almost Got im" where all the villains are sitting around comparing death traps that almost worked while they play poker. Ooooh, I want this with the Legion of Doom all telling stories about how they punked their respective heroes and the flashbacks portray the heroes the even bigger idiots than they are.
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Pellisworth posted:I'm sad they killed off Church so early, I love that actor Guess he was set up for a limited filming period because of his role on The Expanse (which everyone should watch).
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Pellisworth posted:I'm sad they killed off Church so early, I love that actor Cutty kicks rear end whether he's in Baltimore or space.
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nooneofconsequence posted:Didn't Felicity pay for the lair? Rhyno posted:I would LOVE a man on the street interview episode of Arrow. Especially if they did it tongue in cheek like Stargate's 200th episode. Xelkelvos posted:There's also Talia still kicking about I believe, Vigilante (though more of a B-plot at this point), and Helix (same, but even more threatening).
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Apr 4, 2017 07:52
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Helix is the hacktivists Felicity is getting involved with.
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the tattoo, a photo of Ollie hanging with Bratva and a photo of a hooded dude with a bow from the same time period in Russia seems like really flimsy evidence to suggest he's the Green Arrow
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By the way, I really hope Felicity's guest appearance on LoT was her only stint as a (costumed and fighting) vigilante. I shuddered when some interviews said that she was getting a costume, but in that alternate timeline story it made sense. One thing I instantly liked about Arrow from the first season was that they gave Oliver a reason to be so powerful. After his father killed himself in front of Ollie to save his life, Ollie spent five years in hell, enduring all kinds of physical and mental torture and experiencing bad poo poo happening to people he cared about while constantly training and honing his skills. Sara had a quite similar backstory when she resurfaced, having been trained by and working for the mystical League of Assassins the whole time. ...And I really think they dropped that ball with some of the other characters. On the other end of the bad rear end-scale: Laurel took some self defense class from a former vigilante, Thea spent a few weeks on vacation with her assassin father. Roy and Wild Dog were just some violence-loving hooligans from the Glades who decided to fight for justice. There's not really any reason why these characters should be able to hold their own in a fight against organized criminals (until after Roy got Mirkuru'd and Thea was baptized in the Lazarus pit. Magic trumps all). Everytime Felicity has been shown doing sit-ups or angrily hitting something I have feared that the writers would give her a crime fighting costume. I'm giving Curtis the benefit of the doubt here, since the show actually showed him fumbling at vigilantism despite being a former olympic medalist, and then realizing that his mind was his strongest muscle.
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I have a sneaking suspicion this helix thing is leading towards a possible scenario where Felicity is the big bad next season. I wish they'd find something more for Thea to do. It's sad that she's basically disappeared from the show.
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Organized crime doesn't include martial arts training. The Bratva trained as much as Wild Dog did.
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kjetting posted:By the way, I really hope Felicity's guest appearance on LoT was her only stint as a (costumed and fighting) vigilante. I shuddered when some interviews said that she was getting a costume, but in that alternate timeline story it made sense. Good news, one of the showrunners said that that was one of two lines he was unwilling to cross.
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Senerio posted:Good news, one of the showrunners said that that was one of two lines he was unwilling to cross. What was the other? 
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Killing Thea.
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The Lord Bude posted:I have a sneaking suspicion this helix thing is leading towards a possible scenario where Felicity is the big bad next season. Nah it will be a bunch of drama about how she helped Helix become the big bad, through whatever she has been helping them do so far. Giving her an enemy that isn't quite as lame as Hacker Bee Girl to fight with magical computer fights while hacking the gibson. It writes itself, send the arrow team to chopsocky some security guards and plant a hacker device while she tensely glares at the computer and types with Curtis. Helix probably wins, she loses her confidence at some point in the season and we get flashbacks to goth felicity, before she gets her spirit back and can type even faster than before. That's a wrap on season 6 guys, see you in two years.
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Tiggum posted:[...] with a panel discussion featuring at least one person who's a crazy conspiracy theorist. "Look, it's clear where this is going. Oliver Queen is the Arrow! He's got Lance and the PD in his pocket!"
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Bruceski posted:"Look, it's clear where this is going. Oliver Queen is the Arrow! He's got Lance and the PD in his pocket!" "The mayor of this city secretly became a member of the Russian mob while he was stranded on an island for 5 years"
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Spacebump posted:"The mayor of this city secretly became a member of the Russian mob while he was stranded on an island for 5 years" "There are secret photos showing the mayor in Russia wearing a hood but THEY'RE suppressing them!" Alternatively it seems like the only reason Helix hasn't exposed Oliver given the ethical and moral issues of him being mayor is because Felicity is useful to them. I could see them threatening to out him if she ever tries to back away from them.
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I doubt Helix would be the main big bad for Season 6. Maybe a B-plot bad, or working in conjunction with a big bad, but not the big bad itself. Edit: Unless Helix is ultimately controlled by someone we haven't seen yet. Tiggum posted:I was wondering this as well. And then I thought it's maybe the one underneath Ollie's campaign office, which I guess he owns? And then I realised that the show's writers probably don't have any idea who owns this lair or where it's located either so there's no point worrying about it. Besides, it'll probably be destroyed or compromised and abandoned before much longer anyway. Didn't Thea find and rent/buy the campaign headquarters? Does this mean she technically owns the lair? (You know kinda like her apartment that Felicity stole. Yes I know we've been over that.)
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Longbaugh01 posted:I doubt Helix would be the main big bad for Season 6. Maybe a B-plot bad, or working in conjunction with a big bad, but not the big bad itself. Been over it, yes, but this latest ep when Felicity made a sarcastic quip about the gang being in "my apartment" I wanted to punch her.
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I literally have no idea how Helix ties into anything. While this could fall apart, I've got enough revived faith in the writers this year. They somehow stuck the landing with Prometheus, even though Adrian Chase was literally the most obvious choice.
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Quincyh posted:Been over it, yes, but this latest ep when Felicity made a sarcastic quip about the gang being in "my apartment" I wanted to punch her. That was funny, but I don't think it was sarcastic.
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I understand a lot of the Felicity hate (not all of it, but a lot of it) but the thing where people are mad that she lives in Thea's old apartment just seems weird to me.
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STAC Goat posted:I understand a lot of the Felicity hate (not all of it, but a lot of it) but the thing where people are mad that she lives in Thea's old apartment just seems weird to me. Just think of it as fuel for the fire.
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I mean, the whole thing with the apartment is funny because Oliver and Felicity move there when they're called back to deal with HIVE, but you know its still Thea's. At some point, the ownership changes hands and its Felicity's for no apparent reason. I've always seen it as a plot hole that no one bothered to address but its still odd nonetheless
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Carlosologist posted:I mean, the whole thing with the apartment is funny because Oliver and Felicity move there when they're called back to deal with HIVE, but you know its still Thea's. At some point, the ownership changes hands and its Felicity's for no apparent reason. Maybe because even though the Queens aren't as wealthy as they started out, they are wealthy enough to give a nice apartment to a friend and not care. Or maybe Felicity made enough money as CEO to buy it from Thea and it just happened off camera.
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My vague memory of it was that Thea had moved in with Laurel between seasons in the wake of getting Pitted so the nice apartment was either unoccupied or Oliver and Felicity were using it as a city apartment. It just seems like a non issue. Thea was living with her brother but then her brother got in a serious relationship so she moved out and left the couple in the apartment. That happens all the time. Then the relationship ended and he told Felicity to keep the apartment because he felt guilty about things. On a show filled with really silly comic book logic that just seems like totally normal real world people stuff. Felicity's current hacker adventure is way dumber. edit: And yeah, its always been kind of subtly mentioned how Oliver, Thea, and Felicity are all doing just fine financially from the payoffs of Merlyn, Queen Industries, and Palmer Tech. Hell, Moira probably had a nice life insurance policy. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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It doesn't help that Oliver had to leave his sister's apartment because of the break up scene, possibly the worst scene in the entire show
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I want to live in a real world where million-dollar condos are just traded around like office chairs. This isn't the same scenario where you move out with your college bro and his girlfriend moves in and takes over your half of the lease
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