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wide stance posted:I doubt most, if any, .NET web shops use Razor anymore, in favor of Angular or React. You need javascript to do things on the front-end, a lot more than people think, so you might as well put your views there and actually have it mesh with that logic. No one wants to use a website that reloads the page just to show something different on said page or refresh the data. angular is turbo garbage and razor is way better and easier to use than react.
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:did anyone here ever do windows driver development (specifically network tunnel adapters)? a little. never tunnel adapters though Shinku ABOOKEN posted:pitfalls   effortpost tomorrow
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wide stance posted:I doubt most, if any, .NET web shops use Razor anymore, in favor of Angular or React. You need javascript to do things on the front-end, a lot more than people think, so you might as well put your views there and actually have it mesh with that logic. No one wants to use a website that reloads the page just to show something different on said page or refresh the data. razor just got a ton of love for asp.net core and the bundling stuff just moved to a vs extension iirc. not to say it's a better choice than react / angular and a proper frontend build, but saying even ms wants people off razor is a stretch imo.
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react, typescript, and .net core in visual studio is seriously own zone. god help you if you use razor for anything more complex than making GBS threads a few static elements and script tags into the page.
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i loving hate that everything is a poorly written single page app nowadays unless you have a good need and, just as importantly, a good team who know their poo poo and are given time to get the ux up to par, then don't bother. stick with tried and true and totally normal full page requests, and tart them up with just a little bit of js if need be
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good single page apps are fine. the problem is that it's actually not easy to write a smooth, pleasant experience
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wide stance posted:I doubt most, if any, .NET web shops use Razor anymore, in favor of Angular or React. You need javascript to do things on the front-end, a lot more than people think, so you might as well put your views there and actually have it mesh with that logic. No one wants to use a website that reloads the page just to show something different on said page or refresh the data. its me, im the one currently reimplementing aspx apps using razor angular is horrid and the guys at work who use react are all node evangelists so i just assumed it was bad the current ui has lasted 10+ years so by the time it's next due an update maybe there wont be so many competing frameworks....lol as if edit: you can do partial page refreshes in Core using async views i think...or the old way was to have the controller return raw html then append to the DOM. or just bundle in some ajax if it's like populating a dropdown or something Powerful Two-Hander fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Apr 4, 2017 |
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redleader posted:good single page apps are fine. the problem is that it's actually not easy to write a smooth, pleasant experience sure it is, it's called a native app and anyone who isn't going to write one should write a single page "app" so someone else can replace it with a good native app without need for scraping
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redleader posted:i loving hate that everything is a poorly written single page app nowadays you know what i hate? infinite scrolling. you know what i hate even more infinite scrolling with a single 200 pixel wide column of "things" in the center of my 21:9 ultrawide monitor.
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pages are good. when my browser or tab crashes, i can resume my browsing when there are pages. with infinite scrolling i might as well throw my computer in the trash, climb in there after it and set everything on fire.
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and when you use a peak 2001 purist html+css web page and the page just loads instantly and there are no spinners anywhere 
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I'm attending a conference with a fancy website that is buggy and displays contents of the schedule and talk description for 0.5 seconds before some bug wipes the screen clean it owns had it just been static content it would have worked fine, but the js giveth and then very rapidly taketh the content away
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > YOSPOS > terrible programmers:MononcQc posted:js giveth and then very rapidly taketh the content away gonadic io fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Apr 4, 2017 |
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MononcQc posted:the js giveth and then very rapidly taketh the content away
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Wheany posted:you know what i hate? how bout some custom laggy scrolling code thrown into the mix. nope, not gonna work with auto scrolling or your OS scroll speed settings.
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Rectus posted:how bout some custom laggy scrolling code thrown into the mix. nope, not gonna work with auto scrolling or your OS scroll speed settings. i'll see your custom laggy scrolling code and raise you custom laggy scrolling code with a weird jump when the header is almost out of view and gets replaced with a fixed narrowed header
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what about pages that stop you using your 'back' button to get back to wherever you came from
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Wheany posted:you know what i hate? my favourite are links in the footer and infiinte scrolling basically anything twitter has done
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i love it how twitter randomly jumps the scroll position halfway down the page whenever you scroll back to the top very needs-suiting
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gently caress yeah just got the analog-to-digital converter on my arduino working in rust suck it cppailures
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Wheany posted:i'll see your custom laggy scrolling code and raise you custom laggy scrolling code with a weird jump when the header is almost out of view and gets replaced with a fixed narrowed header infinite scrolling that lets you see two screens worth and then throws up a translucent overlay demanding you register
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Sweevo posted:infinite scrolling that lets you see two screens worth and then throws up a translucent overlay demanding you register 
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Sweevo posted:infinite scrolling that lets you see two screens worth and then throws up a translucent overlay demanding you register lmao pinterest is the worst for this since their pages get so high up the google results
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pinterest: ruining google image search since 2010
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gonadic io posted:gently caress yeah just got the analog-to-digital converter on my arduino working in rust how hard is it to get rust running on an arduino. i just found an old arduino and a breadboard and some crap in a drawer when i was cleaning and this sounds fun because my brain is broken
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fart simpson posted:how hard is it to get rust running on an arduino. i just found an old arduino and a breadboard and some crap in a drawer when i was cleaning and this sounds fun because my brain is broken plain code running, not too difficult. then you have the choice of linking against the arduino libraries, linking against ASF, or writing everything yourself (translating the source of the arduno libraries). this person started linking c libraries like libsam: http://hannobraun.de/embedded/ i went with 3: https://github.com/djmcgill/to-the-moon because i hate myself
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this is probably the best resource though just to get started on an arduino zero: https://github.com/japaric/cortex-m-template (the AVR processors is an entirely different story though, don't bother imo)
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fart simpson posted:the zero isn't avr? i think mine is Nah, zeros (and mkrzero and mkr1000) are all arm32. Uno and due etc are AVR
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fleshweasel posted:react, typescript, and .net core in visual studio is seriously own zone. god help you if you use razor for anything more complex than making GBS threads a few static elements and script tags into the page. why in the world would you ever use javascript for page generation when you don't have to?
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if you are using javascript at all for anything other than like form validation or maybe injecting new content from a razor partial, you are doing things wrong.
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gonadic io posted:Nah, zeros (and mkrzero and mkr1000) are all arm32. i think mine is uno. so it's not worth it?
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fart simpson posted:i think mine is uno. so it's not worth it? You need a fork of gcc, a fork of llvm,and a fork of rustc
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tef posted:i hate computers me 2
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tef posted:i hate computers
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