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That sort of depends on your definition of viable. I wouldn't be bringing them to tournaments, but you shouldn't be bringing anything but Zoodiacs to tournament. They function as an engine, certainly. Senerio plays them with Aquaactresses, and I run them in a Paleozoic Rank 2 engine (effectively Toadally turbo). They're sometimes used as a tribute engine, which is probably where the God card thing came from, but there are probably better.MissileWaster posted:I pulled a Toadally Awesome from a booster pack the other day. Are Frogs still viable? I have a friend who said he used to run them, seems like a fun/interesting deck if it's still decent. Also heard that it's a good deck for Egyptian God cards, it'd feel pretty good dropping Obelisk on my friend for stealing my Red-Eyes deck idea. AlphaKretin fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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AlphaKretin posted:That sort of depends on your definition of viable. I wouldn't be bringing them to tournaments, but you shouldn't be bringing anything but Zoodiacs to tournament. They function as an engine, certainly. Senerio plays them with Aquaactresses, and I run them in a Paleozoic Rank 2 engine (effectively Toadally turbo). They're sometimes used as a tribute engine, which is probably where the God card thing came from, but there are probably better. I'm not really thinking tournaments at this point yet. Maybe we'll hit up a local tournament in a few weeks when we've had enough time to figure out what our current cards do without having to read the descriptions every time. There's a regionals down here in April, but it's way too soon to be thinking about that probably. Could be a fun experience, other than the paying money to get our asses kicked by cards we've never heard of part.
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MissileWaster posted:I pulled a Toadally Awesome from a booster pack the other day. Are Frogs still viable? I have a friend who said he used to run them, seems like a fun/interesting deck if it's still decent. Also heard that it's a good deck for Egyptian God cards, it'd feel pretty good dropping Obelisk on my friend for stealing my Red-Eyes deck idea. Yeah, it's a very good card, and it did see a significant ammount of competitive play, though competitively speaking, pretty much everything is taking a backseat to zoodiacs right now, though it can still do well at locals and get a top here and there at regionals in a good players hands. Though I should mention, it's more common to see Hero Decks that play it in conjunction with Bahamut Shark and Norden, also in Paliozoics, rather than actual pure frog builds.
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MissileWaster posted:I pulled a Toadally Awesome from a booster pack the other day. Are Frogs still viable? I have a friend who said he used to run them, seems like a fun/interesting deck if it's still decent. Also heard that it's a good deck for Egyptian God cards, it'd feel pretty good dropping Obelisk on my friend for stealing my Red-Eyes deck idea. A paleozoic frog deck did just top 32 YCS Seattle. They also occasionally popped up in Japan with zoodiac around. They don't have nearly the representation that zoodiac does though. Like 15 out of top 16 had zoodiacs in their deck. I haven't played frog monarchs in awhile but it is a fun deck. It'll have some trouble against the top tier but at a local level you should hopefully be able to have fun.
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^And Paleozoic frogs just won YCS Atlanta. They are still fairly competent, especially when people don't side properly to account for the mirror match (plus lost winds is an amazing card for the deck going against Zoodiacs)
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By the way, in case nobody else caught it, Baobaboon is getting released as a promo for the Raging Tempest Special Editions in a couple of weeks  M-X-Saber Invoker turbo is go.
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Duelist Saga comes out March 31, and there are a ton of reprints/imports in this set, including several ocg erratas (Rescue Cat is Confirmed), some newer support like Honesty Neos and Gozuki, several Number Monsters, and, perhaps most importantly, CRYSTAL LANCER AND DIAMOND DUST! It's been 5 YEARS Konami, took you guys long enough!
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Apparently you can actually use tokens for link summon's. All hail goat meta.
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MiddleOne posted:Apparently you can actually use tokens for link summon's. All hail goat meta. Gofu is a 1-card Decode Talker without using your Normal Summon, and not even with any combo. E: OK not DT specifically unless you go through two Link Spiders and either Link 2, but assuming a future wider range of Link Monsters, Link 3s in general. AlphaKretin fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/index.html Forbidden: Majespecter Unicorn – Kirin The Tyrant Neptune Vanity’s Emptiness Limited: Maxx “C” Rescue Cat Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier Brain Control Future Fusion Imperial Order Semi-Limited: Wisdom-Eye Magician Zoodiac Ratpier Interrupted Kaiju Slumber Unlimited: Sangan
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Thats pretty weak compared to the recent OCG banlist, isn't it?
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I'm sorry, did Neptune get banned?
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TheKingofSprings posted:I'm sorry, did Neptune get banned? He's pretty bonkers with Independent Nightingale via Instant Fusion.
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Charles Bukowski posted:Thats pretty weak compared to the recent OCG banlist, isn't it? The OCG made sure to kill Zoodiacs, to the point of severe overkill (just limiting Ratpier would've been enough). The TCG...lightly tapped them in the shoulder. But hey, Stratos is still banned, that's what matters, wouldn't want such an overcentralizing and broken card in the game.
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Wait, Brain Control? That didn't get errata, why are we getting that back?
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This is barely a banlist. This is just an excuse to finally release the errata'd cards in the TCG. At least we finally got one though.  Hjalmar posted:Wait, Brain Control? That didn't get errata, why are we getting that back? It did get errata. You can only take a monster that was normal summoned, IIRC?
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One face-up monster that can be Normal Summoned, not that necessarily was. So you can take a Pendulum Summoned Pendulum, but not a Fusion or Synchro.
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That was totally worth the 6 month wait  Also, I like how Sangan went straight from forbidden to unlimited, but God forbid all of the old support on the list that wouldn't cause any issues get moved up one slot each banlist. Also I understand why Zodiacs didn't get hit...but why is Interrupted slumber still at 2? It's definitely powerful enough that it should either be limited or banned, and Konami isn't making any money off of it, so...? Total grade 3/10
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Sangan was unlimited because his errata and the general powercreep in the game has rendered it too slow for most decks to run efficiently. Zoodiacs got hit. They're still going to be nuts, but the loss of a Rat removes a decent amount of power from them.
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Why hit Maxx C even further? It's a far more strategic way of dealing with your opponent's combos than Dimensional loving Barrier. Why is this entire list just errata unbans after 6 months of card releases? Why did they only hit 2 cards anybody actually still plays, and only to 2? Why?
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Why is Solemn Strike still at 3? Why is PSY-Framelord Omega still at 3?
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Maxx "c" at one is the stupidest poo poo, it just makes it even more of a massive swing card if you draw it. E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbBbv2eC4lk BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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If you've been following the leaks today... There's a rule that lets you take both Extra Zones. It's not especially practical, but I trust the YGO community to break it soon enough. More importantly though, they errata'd Darkness Approaches.  Links are now officially poo poo for this reason alone.
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The guys at the locals have been telling me friend that Monarchs aren't competitive anymore. I don't know why they think that, its still a pretty consistent and irritating deck to play against. Domain shuts a lot of decks down right away if you don't have any removal in your hand. All the monarchs are fairly beefy and domain helps them get over most things anyway. Good protection, good monster abilities, that trap they lets them tribute summon on either players turn, annoying trap monsters, Edea and the other lil dark one. I could go on. I tend to bring an extra deck heavy deck and a non extra deck focused deck with me when we play just in case he's brought monarchs.
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Monarchs aren't competitive only in the strictest of senses: they're not topping big tournaments. They're still a force to be reckoned with, certainly fine to bring to a locals. They're also gonna see a resurgence when Links hit because they're the best "no extra" deck, and while I dunno if that's actually gonna be better than just sucking up and using Links, it sounds like it's what a lot of people plan to do. FWIW Monarchs are the deck I see most often by a fair margin playing randoms online in YGOPro.
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Lately all I've been seeing on Ygopro is zoodiac. I hate my local, its all dudes with top tier decks that are there to WIN. I sound so whiny but last time I was there it was all blue eyes and an Omega/Minverva the Exalted Lightsworn with shiranui/uni-zombie engine deck. Gg local, gg.
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A lot of locals will have people using it for a testing grounds of sorts, before they take it to a bigger event.
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I'm probably making a bigger deal of this than warranted, but Konami's doing a twitter poll of which archetype from the next set people are most looking forward to. I voted since I figure companies generally do polls like this for a reason, even if probably a small one. https://twitter.com/YuGiOh_OCG_INFO/status/849212425702330369 In order from top to bottom, the options are Trickstar Gouki Twilightsworn Star Grail
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MiddleOne posted:Trickstars look really cool actually. They do indeed. Between idols and wrestlers, COTD has something for just about everyone (who'd be into an anime card game in the first place, anyway ).Reincarnation, though. Completely generic, no condition, no cost, one-sided Card Destruction that keeps its targets out of grave, and can be searched by almost the entire archetype (via Candina)? There's no way it's staying unlimited forever.
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MiddleOne posted:It's an anim archetype right? That makes it virtually guaranteed. It is an anime archetype, but if you just wanna mess with the opponent's hand or mill, you don't need to use the archetype at all to run the trap. Again, there's no cost or condition whatsoever on the hand-banish effect, not even an OPT, that's what makes me consider it insane and not just silly.
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MiddleOne posted:It's an anime archetype right? That makes it virtually guaranteed. So were Performapals and Performages 
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MiddleOne posted:It's an anime archetype right? That makes it virtually guaranteed. Most of Arc-V's anime decks were really good though? And several of them were highly meta?
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All I remember is Qliphots getting dropped really early in ARC-V's run and being dominant basically until Pepe.
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Off the top of my head, Performapals, Performages, Odd-Eyes/Pendulum Magicians, D/D, Phantom Knights, Speedroids, Wind Witches, and Predaplants are all anime things from Arc-V that have had tops or been used in meta decks. Beyond that, Lunalights, Superheavies, Aqua Actresses, Melodious, and Abyss Actors are all very playable, with a couple of them being outright great. Arc-V was really, really good in terms of it's anime decks. I'm hoping VRAINS is the same way.
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Don't forget Fluffals!
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I am playing them in a tournament soon how the gently caress did they slip my mind.
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