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Poetic Justice posted:Ground war != nuclear war. Yeah it does, when it's Russia.
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Bholder posted:I just realised what all this is about. Now you get it. This is Feudal Lord vs Empire. America vs The Corporate Super State
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Apr 4, 2017 16:51
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Bholder posted:poo poo I can actually imagine if Bernie would've won, I can see this "establishment" actually holding him back because he did have some grand changes in mind which probably would not fly with either Republicans or Democrats. Bernie couldn't have won because the Empire isn't going to let some commie professor near the levers of power, so they cut his throat. It's very obvious who is making the moves
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Apr 4, 2017 16:53
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Now you get it. Yeah, when I think of anti-corporate, I think Trump. 
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Apr 4, 2017 16:53
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Now you get it. So you expect a "billionaire" head of multiple corporations to fight it?
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Apr 4, 2017 16:54
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Blue Train posted:The surveillance should not be in place to begin with Completely agree. That does not mean that certain people should be exempt
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Apr 4, 2017 16:55
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Now you get it. Ok sorry, but I have to spoil the big twist of this movie: There is no empire, it never existed. Wait, no even better, the plot twist is "no Trump, you are the demons"
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Apr 4, 2017 16:56
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The bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative State, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.
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Apr 4, 2017 16:57
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Now you get it. If you really believe this please explain why the loving CEO of Exxon is the secretary of state.
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Apr 4, 2017 16:58
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Blue Train posted:So you expect a "billionaire" head of multiple corporations to fight it? He's killing international trade deals and talking tariffs and middle class jobs. This is not what corporate boards want
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Feminasty Slut posted:If you really believe this please explain why the loving CEO of Exxon is the secretary of state. Because there are still capable, intelligent people that rise to power? I mean, should we put homeless people in there instead?
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Apr 4, 2017 16:59
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Because there are still capable, intelligent people that rise to power? I mean, should we put homeless people in there instead? Literally, yes. Edit: To wit, if the choices are only "homeless person" or "Executive richer than God", I'd put more faith in the homeless person to make decisions for the good of the nation.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:02
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Because there are still capable, intelligent people that rise to power? I mean, should we put homeless people in there instead? Yes, those are the only two options available to the anti corporate president: Corporate CEOs or the homeless.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:03
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We demand an immediate break with the prejudiced view that only the rich, or officials chosen from rich families, are capable of administering the state, of performing the ordinary, everyday work of administration. We demand that training in the work of state administration be conducted by class-conscious workers and soldiers and that this training be begun at once.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:04
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Because there are still capable, intelligent people that rise to power? I mean, should we put homeless people in there instead? Ok so he is an exception now, why? Big companies are evil, except these ones because they are with Trump...
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Apr 4, 2017 17:04
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scrubs season six posted:Yes, those are the only two options available to the anti corporate president: Corporate CEOs or the homeless. Political insider then? Artist? A priest? What class do you want
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Apr 4, 2017 17:05
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Because there are still capable, intelligent people that rise to power? I mean, should we put homeless people in there instead? The fact you can act like this is an actual equivalency is disgusting.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:05
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Bholder posted:Ok so he is an exception now, why? Okay, there is a distinction from a guy that worked at a company, and their current acting board of directors
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Apr 4, 2017 17:06
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oh no, not the bourgeoisie! those guys are the WORST
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Okay, there is a distinction from a guy that worked at a company, and their current acting board of directors Lol he was the CEO
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Apr 4, 2017 17:07
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Political insider then? Artist? A priest? What class do you want You can miss the point with the best of them spunky
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The chief thing now is to abandon the prejudiced bourgeois-intellectualist view that only special officials, who by their very social position are entirely dependent upon capital, can administer the state.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:08
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I'd even argue his class isn't as important as the vested interest he holds in relations with Russia!
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Apr 4, 2017 17:08
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Completely agree. That does not mean that certain people should be exempt Extract your head from your anus and consider this position for two seconds
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Toadvine posted:Extract your head from your anus and consider this position for two seconds If everyone is subject to it, everyone should be subject. It must be all or nothing.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:09
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Also Spunky just shut the hell up for like two pages goddamn any salient point you make is immediately neutered by your other retarded contradictory babble
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Apr 4, 2017 17:11
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Blue Train posted:Lol he was the CEO Was the CEO, isn't the current CEO Can this lead to corruption? Of course. That's why we're supposed to have a system in place to address stuff like this. Laws to make sure that the interests stay separate. But a private citizen that has become successful in the business world shouldn't be excluded from the political process because he was successful? How does that make sense.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:12
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Was the CEO, isn't the current CEO My point is not that he should be excluded but that he is the embodiment of corporate America and should not be held up as a champion against it
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Apr 4, 2017 17:14
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Blue Train posted:My point is not that he should be excluded but that he is the embodiment of corporate America and should not be held up as a champion against it Unfortunately our political class has become so corrupt and wrapped up in corporate interests that literally CEOs and billionaires seem like decent choices lmao. We live in bizarre times
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Apr 4, 2017 17:17
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Blue Train posted:My point is not that he should be excluded but that he is the embodiment of corporate America and should not be held up as a champion against it This should be an obvious thing that we don't have to point out. You know, like how Trump is a retard. So we're either dealing with incredibly stupid people or self-owning trolls. lmao
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Apr 4, 2017 17:17
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hot take incoming: i don't think trump is actually retarded with a certificate and everything, but he is most definitely below average in intelligence and that quite scary, if you consider how dumb an average person already is. also, he probably has early onset dementia e: he is also intellectually lazy, which is even worse than being dumb
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Apr 4, 2017 17:30
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He's donkey brained
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Unfortunately our political class has become so corrupt and wrapped up in corporate interests that literally CEOs and billionaires seem like decent choices lmao. We live in bizarre times But you want the billionaires and CEOs to stop running the country and the only way to stop them is to elect CEOs and billionaires. Ok, are you just pretending to be retarded?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Unfortunately our political class has become so corrupt and wrapped up in corporate interests that literally CEOs and billionaires seem like decent choices lmao. We live in bizarre times No, they seem good to crazy and stupid people like you spunky Anyone who still says trump good is crazy and stupid, yes, all of them.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:33
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Bholder posted:But you want the billionaires and CEOs to stop running the country and the only way to stop them is to elect CEOs and billionaires. Not everyone with the same job is the same person, Jesus Christ. How is this even hard to understand? It matters what their intentions are, and their motivations, and finally, their actions.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:34
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Unfortunately our political class has become so corrupt and wrapped up in corporate interests that literally CEOs and billionaires seem like decent choices lmao. We live in bizarre times How's that whole "drain the swamp" thing turning out, in your estimation?
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Apr 4, 2017 17:35
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Majorian posted:How's that whole "drain the swamp" thing turning out, in your estimation? The swamp is fighting back very hard against an outsider, everything is murky due to this Russia delusion
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Apr 4, 2017 17:37
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He literally installed an oligarchy of plutocrats.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:38
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Not everyone with the same job is the same person, Jesus Christ. How is this even hard to understand? It matters what their intentions are, and their motivations, and finally, their actions. Yes but we have records that show his actions were scummy And everything he's done in office now is scummy By your own logic he's bad
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Joe the Plumber should be secretary of state and some amorphous, brownish blob of non-distinct gender, sexuality, and race is the only entity pure enough to be our leader
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