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I hate this school and everyone in it, and their stupid plaid pants.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:36
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It's fine to say that they think it's too much work for a vanilla release but idk why he then had to immediately put his foot in his mouth lol.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:39
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Is it really that hard to imagine a teen girl beating the poo poo out of someone and getting convicted for assault
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Apr 5, 2017 02:41
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heck it'd be okay to go 'it's a lot of work to do it for the quality we wanted, and persona 4 and 5 dealt with issues young men faced so there would be even more rewriting required, unlike p3 which had a more general story.'JT Jag posted:Is it really that hard to imagine a teen girl beating the poo poo out of someone and getting convicted for assault honestly that seems like the easiest part to rewrite since you could just make it so that the female protag was the one being creeped on
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Apr 5, 2017 02:41
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I like how much they really lean into the lovely adults theme in that even any incidental background adult character has to be an absolute shitheel for no reason.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:41
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Link to that article doing two genders is a loving lot, but lmao at the idea that Persona 4 NEEDED to have a boy there
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Apr 5, 2017 02:41
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I'm still probably the only person who is really unhappy about the font/typesetting in English, but it seriously stands out to me. All of the other menus/UI design is so very stylish, but then they decide to use Verdana/Arial for all of the English text. Like, look at the Japanese text. The font they use is way more stylish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTIFkomJJNU&t=399s
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Apr 5, 2017 02:43
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ntan1 posted:I'm still probably the only person who is really unhappy about the font/typesetting in English, but it seriously stands out to me. All of the other menus/UI design is so very stylish, but then they decide to use Verdana/Arial for all of the English text. I don't like it either, but I feel like no one would really give a poo poo enough to say anything more than people complaining about it are being grognards so I didn't feel the need to bring it up.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:45
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ntan1 posted:I'm still probably the only person who is really unhappy about the font/typesetting in English, but it seriously stands out to me. All of the other menus/UI design is so very stylish, but then they decide to use Verdana/Arial for all of the English text. Looks like ordinary kanji to me.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:45
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Debating whether or not to use a guide and to max out everything on my first playthrough. I kind of don't want to so I can just play things super cas' but I don't know that I'll do a second playthrough for a while, if ever, so I do want to see everything I can.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:51
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I'm shocked the persona 4 protagonist makes so many cameos 
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Apr 5, 2017 02:52
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Jesus loving christ lol, especially at their P4 reason.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:57
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Oxxidation posted:Looks like ordinary kanji to me. It's very small but noticeable, there is a weight to the font in that the bottom strokes/parts of characters are slightly heavier. The curves of the font also have balance to them. Basically, I've worked with UX folks a bit in software, and this is the sort of thing UX designers drool over.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:59
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ntan1 posted:It's very small but noticeable, there is a weight to the font in that the bottom strokes/parts of characters are slightly heavier. The curves of the font also have balance to them. Good thing I'm not one of them, because none of the text looks off to my eyes.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:00
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I didn't think the game could make me hate the first villain anymore, but somehow they have found a way.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:01
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My favorite part of the game so far is that they had months to localize but couldn't be arsed to change the room signs in the school building so the only way to find a certain room is to rub your face against the doors til the name pops up. (Game is good tho)
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Apr 5, 2017 03:06
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I know you guys are too cool to care about the text in your game that's 50% text, but the script really is blatantly sloppy for such a high profile release. There are grammatical errors and poorly translated stock japanese phrases all over the place. https://twitter.com/XEECEEVEVO/status/849171316418650112 like what the gently caress is this? seriously?
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Apr 5, 2017 03:15
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It's not that big of a deal holy loving good poo poo you guys just enjoy a thing for being weird
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Apr 5, 2017 03:19
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i think it's okay to criticize a thing for outright errors, even if those errors are only in a handful of lines. i know that might be controversial, but.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:23
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secret volcano lair posted:like what the gently caress is this? seriously?
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Apr 5, 2017 03:23
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secret volcano lair posted:I know you guys are too cool to care about the text in your game that's 50% text, but the script really is blatantly sloppy for such a high profile release. There are grammatical errors and poorly translated stock japanese phrases all over the place. Okay, Secret Volcano Lair. How about you post examples from something that isn't the same absurdly hyperbolic twitter post that has been posted five times before. Endorph posted:i think it's okay to criticize a thing for outright errors, even if those errors are only in a handful of lines. i know that might be controversial, but. "Criticize a thing for having errors" does not equal rushing in screaming that the entire script is incoherent, no. Especially when mysteriously it's the exact same three tweets that keep getting posted.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:23
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Is there anything as bad as Berseria's subtitles that looked like they used bad text-to-speech
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Apr 5, 2017 03:24
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i mean, the post is kind of hyperbolic, but that line is an obvious error. they left out the word 'trying.' i dont think it's exaggeration or unfair to criticize the game for being stiff and having some errors, even if some people are going too far with it. you don't need to draw lines in the sand one way or the other.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:24
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ImpAtom posted:"Criticize a thing for having errors" does not equal rushing in screaming that the entire script is incoherent, no.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:25
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Endorph posted:he said 'blatantly sloppy for such a high profile release,' not 'the entire script is incoherent.' i think sloppy is kind of an inaccurate word but it's definitely below par when you compare it to some of the better recent jrpg translations. Like what? Because as far as the JRPG translations I've played the only one I would say doesn't suffer from similar issues is XSEED's Trails translation which is generally not only a good translation but one of the best translations I've ever seen. It's certainly a far sight better than Atelier Firis and overall better than Tales of Berseria as far as I've seen in the game.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:26
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I dunno maybe the amount of weed I'm smoking is helping me ignore the localization problems but they just don't seem especially glaring to me
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Apr 5, 2017 03:27
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JT Jag posted:I dunno maybe the amount of weed I'm smoking is helping me ignore the localization problems but they just don't seem especially glaring to me I've basically beaten the game, the translation is not glaring out to me like Berseria or other games where they straight out are using different words to the text that are literally just for the english dub.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:29
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ImpAtom posted:Okay, Secret Volcano Lair. How about you post examples from something that isn't the same absurdly hyperbolic twitter post that has been posted five times before. I mean would you actually care if I posted some? https://twitter.com/BlackDragonHunt/status/849170020202688512 There's plenty more like this going around. Where the sentences are not flat out wrong on a grammatical level, they tend to be really stiff and in serious need of a decent editor
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Apr 5, 2017 03:30
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I'd say the overall TL is actually a little worse than berseria? The berseria TL had some garbled lines in sidequests but the main script itself was pretty decent and flowed more naturally than P5 seems to. And I mean, if we're holding Berseria's garbled sidequest lines against it, we have to do the same thing for P5's errors. Also Nier Automata. And Super Robot Wars V had a lot of unfortunate typos so overall it's probably about on par with this, but SRWV did a lot better with character voice and flow, I felt. P5's translation isn't terrible or anything, if I were rating it like a hot new release I'd give it like a 3/5, it's like right on the dot acceptable, but there's a definite stiffness to it that reminds me of, say, visual novel fan translations.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:31
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All of the weird lines seem to be from the first two hours or so. It loosens up considerably after that from what I've seen so far.
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secret volcano lair posted:I mean would you actually care if I posted some? Id say without context the only one that sounds reasonably bad is the second one. Like I can imagine contextual reasons as to why the other 3 lines exist even if they're not what should be probably be used as the wording there but calling it outright gibberish and saying its a poo poo script using singular out of context lines is just begging for people to jump on you and call you a retard.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:36
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secret volcano lair posted:I mean would you actually care if I posted some? So you do in fact respond exactly by posting the same five twitter posts that people have been posting in this thread. Gotcha. Endorph posted:I'd say the overall TL is actually a little worse than berseria? The berseria TL had some garbled lines in sidequests but the main script itself was pretty decent and flowed more naturally than P5 seems to. And I mean, if we're holding Berseria's garbled sidequest lines against it, we have to do the same thing for P5's errors. Have you actually played through any of P5's translation at all? Or anything past the first two hours?
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I'm like three days in so far (working on projects) and this is depressing as poo poo. The music is A+!
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ImpAtom posted:Have you actually played through any of P5's translation at all? Or anything past the first two hours? Seriously, I'm not biased against the game and I think people calling it gibberish are exaggerating and pretty much poisoning the discussion, I just think it's not unfair to criticize the TL for some pretty obvious flaws. If it gets better, than that's good, though that would make me wonder why the first part of the game would be the part that saw the least editing when usually it's the other way around.
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secret volcano lair posted:There's plenty more like this going around. Yes, they have. Including this thread. While I think it's worth discussing, charging into page 63 going "WOAH HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THESE DAY OLD TWEETS" isn't the best way to start that.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:39
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I stole a pervs heart, celebrated by bathing with old men, and made coffee. goty
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Apr 5, 2017 03:39
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I really haven't seen problems with the dialogue so far, it's perfectly understandable. On an unrelated note, spoilers for early game: "We have one female cast member, how should we do her awakening? Okay, transform in sex dungeon while she is bound up, cat burglar suit, overtly sexual bondage persona". This game has some weird views.
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sexpig by night posted:I stole a pervs heart, celebrated by bathing with old men, and made coffee. It's a good game, my dude. Glad you are enoying it.
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The first dungeon is not my favorite compared to what comes later, just because it's kinda boring with just the first 3 party members  I also factor in voice acting as part of the translation's grade and Berseria has some serious flaws in that department to say it's overall a great product (good, not great).
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