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On the draw: T1 land or green cantrip, T2 land Harnessed Lightning/Essence Scatter/Anticipate, T3 land Bird God leaves you 5 cards in hand. Draw up to 6, play land to 5. Activating his ability puts you at 7 to kill a Gideon, or leaves up a counterspell and stops your opponent from attacking. This is a totally reasonable play pattern when a common opening from the opponent is turn 2 Heart of Kiran, turn 3 Thalia, turn 4 Gideon.
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Ultima66 posted:On the draw: T1 land or green cantrip, T2 land Harnessed Lightning/Essence Scatter/Anticipate, T3 land Bird God leaves you 5 cards in hand. Draw up to 6, play land to 5. Activating his ability puts you at 7 to kill a Gideon, or leaves up a counterspell and stops your opponent from attacking. I see the blue god as something you play on like turn eight with counterspell backup as a finisher for your hard control deck. Trying to swing with it on turn 4 might be more of a plan B for your bad matchups. It obviously remains to be seen whether that kind of deck is worth playing.
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In seeing the formation of a delerium/madness/counters kind deck. I'm going to have to start brainstorming it.
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dragon enthusiast posted:idk what's going on behind the scenes at Wizards, but both the design and development articles talk a whole lot about revolving door stuff with multiple staff getting yanked off Amonkhet for... some unspecified reason Wizards going "oh god oh god fix it" and throwing more staff at the next block?
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I hope they have something more exciting planned for the next couple days, because what we've been shown so far has been pretty unexciting. I wish they'd commit more to the new mechanics whenever they print them, but it always ends up being like 7 cards out of a 290 card set has one of the new keywords, never to be seen again in another set.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:In seeing the formation of a delerium/madness/counters kind deck. I'm going to have to start brainstorming it. *thinking really hard* what if I cast a 2 mana 4/4 instead
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little munchkin posted:*thinking really hard* what if I cast a 2 mana 4/4 instead Do you want the 2-mana 4/4 with restrictive colour requirements that requires you to play bad cards to make it not just a 2/2, the new 2-mana 4/4 that wants you to kill a different one of your creatures otherwise it's just a 1/1, or the 2-mana 4/4 with flying and vigilance that only wants you to play the other best card in the format?
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Jabor posted:Do you want the 2-mana 4/4 with restrictive colour requirements that requires you to play bad cards to make it not just a 2/2, the new 2-mana 4/4 that wants you to kill a different one of your creatures otherwise it's just a 1/1, or the 2-mana 4/4 with flying and vigilance that only wants you to play the other best card in the format? Uhh, I'll just white weenies, I guess?
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Apr 5, 2017 03:23
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Hey look, a card during spoiler season
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I wonder what their rationale was for leading with so many draft cards. Are they just writing the set off for Constructed?
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Attorney at Funk posted:I wonder what their rationale was for leading with so many draft cards. Idk, was wondering the same. Maybe the want to try more of a rising or bell curve preview season?
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Apr 5, 2017 03:37
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I liked this card a lot more when it was one of the many better versions, starting with undo
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Rinkles posted:Hey look, a card during spoiler season man this is going to be a fun draft environment
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Attorney at Funk posted:I wonder what their rationale was for leading with so many draft cards. Are they just writing the set off for Constructed? Maybe they're doing another early B&R update, and they're holding the constructed cards until after that. I mean, knowing whether or not copycat is still in the format is probably going to totally change the evaluation of a lot of cards.
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Rinkles posted:Hey look, a card during spoiler season Elyv posted:I liked this card a lot more when it was one of the many better versions, starting with undo Did Floodwaters really need to be double the cost of Undo just because of cycling?
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This has been a 4-5 mana effect for many years. It's still playable at 6 mana assuming there is a cycling matters theme in blue in limited.
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do u believe in marigolds posted:Did Floodwaters really need to be double the cost of Undo just because of cycling? They can't sell lunchboxes with it so why should it be a strong card?
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cycling is way better in expensive cards because it reduces the cost of putting them in your deck
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Into the Void was quite a strong uncommon in a couple different formats, I don't think you want that efficiency rate on this effect at common.
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Onslaught split the difference
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Rinkles posted:Onslaught split the difference I would have liked this reprint but I guess they don't want 3-cost cycling.
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do u believe in marigolds posted:Did Floodwaters really need to be double the cost of Undo just because of cycling? It needed to be twice the cost of Undo because Undo was fuckin bonkers.
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GoutPatrol posted:I would have liked this reprint but I guess they don't want 3-cost cycling. Why do you think that?
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Lone Goat posted:It needed to be twice the cost of Undo because Undo was fuckin bonkers. For real. I can't imagine how miserable a draft format would be with actual Undo in it. Into the Void was strong as an uncommon that cost more than undo and had no cycling.
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Rinkles posted:Why do you think that? Sarmhan fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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Ein Sexmonster posted:So far all the cycling cards have had the basic (2) cost. Instead they've opted for more cycling-matters cards.\  
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Oops. Yea I guess they didn't like the flavor of the name for this set.
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Rinkles posted:Why do you think that? Have we seen any ones like that? Besides the cycle in Alara Reborn which are three, and the Shards of Alara cycle where the cycling cost is doubled, every other cycler in Alara block was 2 or less. I am going to doubt we will have one that cost more than 2 in this set, maybe the next one.
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GoutPatrol posted:Have we seen any ones like that? Besides the cycle in Alara Reborn which are three, and the Shards of Alara cycle where the cycling cost is doubled, every other cycler in Alara block was 2 or less. I am going to doubt we will have one that cost more than 2 in this set, maybe the next one. Not yet, but Onslaught had a ton of Cycling 3 and some Cycling 2C cards, so why wouldn't Amonkhet? They should reprint Complicate.
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wombo add some Wharf Infiltrator for some more spice 
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I think Drake Haven is just the card to make Smuggler's Copter relevant in Standard again. I haven't seen it for months.
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moush posted:wombo
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Veyrall posted:That's kinda mana intensive, and you'll look like a chump if you don't draw the creation. I mean, there's some pretty explosive turns where you just poop out 5 2/2 flyers, but then before that you're kind of doing a lot of nothing. Well, it's not the only blue zombie in the SOI block. U/R Zombies is a thing.
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I thought UR zombies was actually UR emerge though? And UR emerge really has no need for these cards.
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Veyrall posted:I thought UR zombies was actually UR emerge though? And UR emerge really has no need for these cards. It plays tormenting voice and cathartic reunion.
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Yeah, I think the format would have to slow for them to be usable, but UR emerge does pitch a lot of cards. Actually, there might be a UW or Jeskai Zombie Emerge deck now. Huh.
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Siivola posted:Speaking of the format, when's the next B/R announcement? It's scheduled for the 24th (just after the prerelease). Which is a bit strange, given that last time they said quote:With the full set of Aether Revolt just revealed last Friday, we knew that the new cards would be evaluated in light of the current format, and players would spend a week brewing, creating decklists, and dreaming of what to do next. So, in the interest of giving players the time and context to evaluate Aether Revolt accurately, we moved the date up by a week. You'd think they'd have scheduled this time a little earlier so they don't have this problem literally every time they think a ban is warranted.
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Isn't Drake Haven just once per discard event, no matter how many cards are discarded?
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Attorney at Funk posted:I think Drake Haven is just the card to make Smuggler's Copter relevant in Standard again. I haven't seen it for months.  This hurts.
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