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I deliberated over that self-destruct option for about half an hour when I first played. Should I leave it off? Is someone going to try and blow me up in the future and I need it to be off to not die? Or will circumstances call for another tactical suicide later, and I'll regret not being able to explode?
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Gnome de plume posted:This is like that Arthur meme. "When the robo-boy you started getting emotional over doesn't remember you because he reverted to an earlier backup after your suicide pact." Probably cycling between high-intensity periods of conflict to seize ground/repel concentrated machine assaults and periods of lower intensityl raiding and skirmishing where both sides are rebuilding their forces for the next Big Push
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Apr 5, 2017 00:16
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I deliberated over that self-destruct option for about half an hour when I first played. Should I leave it off? Is someone going to try and blow me up in the future and I need it to be off to not die? Or will circumstances call for another tactical suicide later, and I'll regret not being able to explode? Me too, then I totally forgot about it like right after the next story beat 
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Apr 5, 2017 00:21
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I deliberated over that self-destruct option for about half an hour when I first played. Should I leave it off? Is someone going to try and blow me up in the future and I need it to be off to not die? Or will circumstances call for another tactical suicide later, and I'll regret not being able to explode? These are the kind of over-analytical panics we force ourselves into when we know Yoko Taro is at the wheel
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Apr 5, 2017 00:25
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warhammer651 posted:Probably cycling between high-intensity periods of conflict to seize ground/repel concentrated machine assaults and periods of lower intensityl raiding and skirmishing where both sides are rebuilding their forces for the next Big Push Considering that humans have space stations and stuff, and the machines apparently don't or at least can't destroy them, I think they're really over-complicating the whole thing by sending androids down when they could just bomb the machines from orbit.
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Apr 5, 2017 00:39
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Ah, humanity created another sapient humanoid species. Yay.
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Apr 5, 2017 00:43
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Considering that humans have space stations and stuff, and the machines apparently don't or at least can't destroy them, I think they're really over-complicating the whole thing by sending androids down when they could just bomb the machines from orbit. But then we couldn't draw any religious parallels to our M.O., and if you don't do something in style, why even bother?
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Apr 5, 2017 00:55
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Well also I assume the robots would figure it out and just go underground or something. A space lazer can only do so many things.
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Apr 5, 2017 00:57
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Knowing them, they'd make it a bit too strong and it would turn their moon into a Death Star. Which isn't great since they want to take Earth back, not take it down.
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Apr 5, 2017 01:18
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Considering that humans have space stations and stuff, and the machines apparently don't or at least can't destroy them, I think they're really over-complicating the whole thing by sending androids down when they could just bomb the machines from orbit. I mean, they probably want the planet to still be livable when the war's over, which requires an intact biosphere, and WMD's have a tendency to gently caress those up so... Regardless, I'm sure we'll learn why the humans haven't started harvesting the rest of the solar system for material in due time. Or we can knock an order of magnitude off the dates for something just slightly more sane.
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Apr 5, 2017 01:38
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warhammer651 posted:Regardless, I'm sure we'll learn why the humans haven't started harvesting the rest of the solar system for material in due time. The harvesting machines are rebelling, would you want to make a giant robot to harvest mars if the last time you made a thing to harvest grain it tried to punch you to death?
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Apr 5, 2017 01:47
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Nuebot posted:The harvesting machines are rebelling, would you want to make a giant robot to harvest mars if the last time you made a thing to harvest grain it tried to punch you to death? no, the robots on the surface were created by aliens, pay attention.
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Apr 5, 2017 01:53
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Aliens invade Earth and makes "machine lifeforms" to fight humans, humans make and send scantly clad androids to fight machine lifeforms. Proxy war ahoy.
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Apr 5, 2017 01:58
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My first reaction to the year 12000 was "Humanity is loving dead, no way in hell they survived being up there longer than recorded human history." I have no clue whether or not this is true, but I'll buy a platinum account if anything is left of humanity at the end of this game.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:04
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I hadn't checked this sub-forum in a while and OH poo poo! I don't have a PS4 and my computer couldn't run this at all and every stream I've tried watching has been a painful mess. So this is the next best thing. 
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Nohman posted:I hadn't checked this sub-forum in a while and OH poo poo! I don't have a PS4 and my computer couldn't run this at all and every stream I've tried watching has been a painful mess. So this is the next best thing. Good choice friend, Glory to Mankind.
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warhammer651 posted:no, the robots on the surface were created by aliens, pay attention. They took over human factories and stuff though. That recorded dialogue that plays was from way before the aliens attacked, but the factory is pumping out little stubby machine lifeforms.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:12
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But yes, self-destruct is essential function for this game. You'll see. You shall all see the genius of it. After pod get petted.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:12
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FeyerbrandX posted:
That is an excellent emote, right up with the Mikhail  one. Also very appropriate; if the poor kid's still rolling around, he needs a drink badly!
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Apr 5, 2017 02:15
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Nuebot posted:They took over human factories and stuff though. That recorded dialogue that plays was from way before the aliens attacked, but the factory is pumping out little stubby machine lifeforms. Sure, but that's just capturing a factory and converting it to make weapons, not an argument against using factories
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Apr 5, 2017 02:18
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So how many of the endings are "blow yourself up on boss X"? I'm not sure I really wanna know.
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warhammer651 posted:I mean, they probably want the planet to still be livable when the war's over, which requires an intact biosphere, and WMD's have a tendency to gently caress those up so... I'm not saying they have to glass the entire planet. But everything 2B did in that first level could have been accomplished by dropping a big rock on the facility from orbit. A really big rock. Or a nuclear warhead if you're feeling fancy. Which come to think of it is sort of equivalent to what 2B and 9S did in the end, except with a lot more trouble for no reason. I'm starting to think the whole YoRHa androids thing is just a millennia long scheme to funnel money into the pocket of some defense contractor on the moon.
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warhammer651 posted:Sure, but that's just capturing a factory and converting it to make weapons, not an argument against using factories I'm just saying, if a grain harvester ever tried to murder me I would never trust a farm again.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:54
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GeneX posted:Ah, humanity created another sapient humanoid species. Yay.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:57
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Nuebot posted:I'm just saying, if a grain harvester ever tried to murder me I would never trust a farm again. Unfortunately for you, from what I understand all farm machinery consists of at least 75% spinning blades and exposed gears, and murdering farmers is second nature to those mechanical nightmares. Do not trust farms.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:58
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:I'm not saying they have to glass the entire planet. But everything 2B did in that first level could have been accomplished by dropping a big rock on the facility from orbit. A really big rock. Or a nuclear warhead if you're feeling fancy. Which come to think of it is sort of equivalent to what 2B and 9S did in the end, except with a lot more trouble for no reason. Not sure any projectile orbital bombardment would work very well when the enemy AA defense includes giant red laser cannons of doom.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:08
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Geez I didn't even think to fire the self-destruct in the bunker at all. That was hilarious.
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Geez I didn't even think to fire the self-destruct in the bunker at all. Weird. After that encouragement it was first thing I did after saving the game.
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Apr 5, 2017 04:24
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Thisuck posted:The android black boxes are fusion reactors, it would be pretty amazing if a space station didn't explode when a fusion bomb exploded inside. I would say "this certainly doesn't have this effect elsewhere" but given that I wasn't aware self-destruct was literally a button you could hit as opposed to "cutscene fuel" for a looooong time, I'm becoming increasingly aware that I'm probably wrong. What little temptation I had to find a guide to 100% has evaporated, though, because finding that out this is way more entertaining.
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Apr 5, 2017 04:52
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 man. Yoko Taro.Somebody already said it, but really, what are the odds of humanity still being there and alive? On the other hand, it may be too easy a twist for our Sith Lord now, so I guess if by lets say ending A* this twist hasn't triggered then humanity is still kicking. Somehow. *defined as the first non game-over ending. I have no idea what its letter will actually be.
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But honestly, if the big reveal was "humanity was actually dead all along" would that be as surprising as the first Nier reveal (hopefully not repeated because that would be silly a second time around). Maybe the real secret is that the moon-androids are ZAFT fighting against the Earth Alliance, and the showdown will be gundams vs cyborg androids.
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Alavaria posted:But honestly, if the big reveal was "humanity was actually dead all along" would that be as surprising as the first Nier reveal (hopefully not repeated because that would be silly a second time around). Now I want Yoko Taro to make a Gundam game. Maybe he could make Seed GOOD. Or at least less lovely.
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My guess is that humanity are the aliens invading, changed after whatever fuckery they used to fuse Gestalt and Replicant, then going off to the stars because Earth was too messed up. Speaking of which, what happened to the Sun? I seem to recall something in Nier about it never being seen or something. That said, if it's spoilery, just say so and I'll speak no more of it.
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CommissarMega posted:Speaking of which, what happened to the Sun? I seem to recall something in Nier about it never being seen or something. That said, if it's spoilery, just say so and I'll speak no more of it. The magic bullshit that Caim and Angelus brought over from the Drakengard universe hosed the world up so hard the sun stopped in the sky. This could mean anywhere from Earth no longer moving to the sun literally revolving in geostationary orbit around the earth. This would result in a hellbaked desert for the side with sun and an ice cube for the side that doesn't, but I suppose magic happened. It's yet to be confirmed if that's the case still. Materant fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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Apr 5, 2017 07:20
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Okay, so, I'm not GROUND FLOOR or anything, but...NEW ID LP YAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Also seriously, Yoko Taro should be classified as Japan's National Treasure. I mean, the guy is just amazing. He also has a loving BLAST every time he shows up. There seems to be some correlation between Devs who are having fun and Good games being made. granted, not like Nier was SPECTACULAR, but you can tell he at least loving -tried- to make a good game, and on some levels (I saw, I haven't played it yet myself, just read Id's Nier LP which this LP is REALLY making me want to re-re-reread), he certainly succeeded.
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Materant posted:The magic bullshit that Caim and Angelus brought over from the Drakengard universe hosed the world up so hard the sun stopped in the sky. This could mean anywhere from Earth no longer moving to the sun literally revolving in geostationary orbit around the earth. This would result in a hellbaked desert for the side with sun and an ice cube for the side that doesn't, but I suppose magic happened. I'm pretty sure the axis of the earth was moved, that that's what caused it?
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VolticSurge posted:Now I want Yoko Taro to make a Gundam game. Maybe he could make Seed GOOD. Or at least less lovely.
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Apr 5, 2017 07:59
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Alavaria posted:Well all of the kids in that series would end up getting the drakenguard treatment... I think Bokurano is the closest we'll get to a Yoko Taro mecha series.
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Apr 5, 2017 08:16
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Bokurano is the anime where like 20 kids gather to pilot a giant robot and each of them can only pilot it once because it kills them after they go, right? Yeah...that's about right.
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And then we'd get like the shinbone of the giant robot as a heavy weapon and that's the weapon story.
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