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I'd be mostly ok with the bullshit grab kills if they didn't prevent revival. Maybe prevent self revival if you really gotta punish a player for playing your buggy, laggy game.
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Yea sync kills only bothered me when I was lagged to death on them, that and the Banshee's amazing ability to teleport you into her hand.
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Ambaire posted:Some guy over on Reddit did some testing and the shotgun smart choke mod does literally nothing. Wonder how many other weapon mods are bugged and if any of them will get fixed thursday. Zakmonster posted:A lot of the comments in that thread mention the smart choke only working on a target, not a wall, which is the way it worked in ME3 and probably how it still works in MEA. I'm guessing you read the first thread the guy posted and assumed the one I linked was the same. The thread I linked was the second time this guy tested the smart choke, this time versus live targets. edit: probably should have specified the thread I linked was versus live targets. Oh well. Ambaire fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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Apr 5, 2017 06:08
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Ambaire posted:I'm guessing you read the first thread the guy posted and assumed the one I linked was the same. The thread I linked was the second time this guy tested the smart choke, this time versus live targets. You're totally right, I was assuming the first thread. Oh well, hopefully this is addressed in the upcoming patch.
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Haha someone's trying to defend sync kills again? Just going to repeat what I wrote about them in the ME3 thread since it's almost all still relevant here, besides the fact that there are very short tells now.Digirat posted:Sync kills are irredeemable poo poo both in design and implementation. At best they are a sledgehammer that solves one problem (certain player behavior is perceived as too powerful) by causing massive collateral damage in a lot of other areas. They are an invisible trigger that is not clearly communicated to players at all and which knocks them out for the rest of the round effectively instantly (except in rare cases when the enemy gets staggered out of it), which is a massive dick move in a game where downs and revives happen very frequently and quickly. Compared to any other attack enemies can do (comes from a clear source, does damage by traveling into you, does damage that is measurable in health and shields, allows you to be revived if it downs you) they are entirely out of line.
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I was wondering why this guy was behaving strangely in one spot for a wave. Turns out she was entirely trapped inside the wall, and not even the fiend who went by could get her out with its design necessity sync kill. (It did get me with its design necessity sync kill when the game refused to let me stop defusing an objective, however.)  She finally escaped under the map and helped save the game. 
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Zakmonster posted:A lot of the comments in that thread mention the smart choke only working on a target, not a wall, which is the way it worked in ME3 and probably how it still works in MEA. A five minute search turned up these pictures from this forum: Piranha tested against a wall. From top left to bottom right: no mods, smart choke, marksman, smart choke + marksman.  So yeah. Chokes are probably bugged right now. tooterfish fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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Apr 5, 2017 07:31
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Geez Smart Chokes make a huge difference. Hopefully the patch fixes them.
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Apr 5, 2017 07:47
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I'm looking forward to the first Multiplayer DLC cause all the current stuff is a bit on the bland side. Give me more weird poo poo like the batarian net gun and harpoon gun.
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Apr 5, 2017 08:24
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Well I give up on multiplayer until they patch this poo poo, I'm crashing half way through pretty much every second match now, on ps4. drat shame because I was just starting to get some good stuff/levels. Try again thursday I guess.
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Apr 5, 2017 08:29
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Digirat posted:I was wondering why this guy was behaving strangely in one spot for a wave. Turns out she was entirely trapped inside the wall, and not even the fiend who went by could get her out with its design necessity sync kill. (It did get me with its design necessity sync kill when the game refused to let me stop defusing an objective, however.) That player name is just perfect. I imagined the player just teleporting out of the gamebreaking place and sneaking down to claim victory from the buggy code.
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Stranger Danger Ranger posted:Well I give up on multiplayer until they patch this poo poo, I'm crashing half way through pretty much every second match now, on ps4. drat shame because I was just starting to get some good stuff/levels. Try again thursday I guess.  I'm also sitting on a pile of 50% XP boosters from buying the guide ( The multiplayer chapter sucks. No detailed information like damage / HP for enemies, and a cut-paste from the game for basically everything else. ) but can't use them because they're likely to get wasted.
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CapnBry posted:I feel like every boss monster in this game needs a tell though before it uses its sync-kill, an audio cue.
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Apr 5, 2017 11:45
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I noticed that the bios for each of the classes kind of lets you know their personality. Female Adept is such a douchbag compared to the glee my Female Engineer brings to a mission. She says pew pew when she drops an assault turret which is cute as poo poo. Now I can't wait to see what crap comes out of the Turian Soldier war criminal.
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Apr 5, 2017 11:51
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Why do we call them sync kills anyway?
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Apr 5, 2017 12:23
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Ineffiable posted:Why do we call them sync kills anyway? I think Dawn of War started it; two models would "sync up" to perform a cool animation, like a space marine shooting down a demon.
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Apr 5, 2017 12:32
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Shumagorath posted:Speaking of which has anyone else had their sound die mid-game? I had mine cut out more than once yesterday. Everything is fine in the OS and other applications, but MEA must have a thread for sound that dies. Not even sure where I can report the bug...? Yeah this happens to everyone I know that plays. Nothing seems to trigger it just happens randomly.
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comatose posted:Yeah this happens to everyone I know that plays. Nothing seems to trigger it just happens randomly.
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I've had it happen once or twice. No clue what triggers it, just randomly lost all audio. Made soloing the last objective vs Kett as a level 1 adept rather interesting.
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Apr 5, 2017 12:57
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Shumagorath posted:Speaking of which has anyone else had their sound die mid-game? I had mine cut out more than once yesterday. Everything is fine in the OS and other applications, but MEA must have a thread for sound that dies. Not even sure where I can report the bug...? Yeah it's happened to me, had to quit and reload the game. Also pretty frequently have the announcer/commander whatever voice stop working.
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Apr 5, 2017 13:16
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Stranger Danger Ranger posted:Also pretty frequently have the announcer/commander whatever voice stop working. I've never lost all the game sounds but the announcer going silent happens all the time.
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Apr 5, 2017 13:18
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RBA Starblade posted:I think Dawn of War started it; two models would "sync up" to perform a cool animation, like a space marine shooting down a demon. Oh okay. I was just wondering why we don't say 'instant-kill' Makes sense in a way.
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I'm okay with the announcer going quiet; he's no Admiral Hackett 
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Ineffiable posted:Oh okay. I was just wondering why we don't say 'instant-kill' Do you know what "instant" means?
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Pierson posted:Are there any other games besides this and Mass Effect 3 that have a similar short match/wave-based coop thing tied with random box-opening stuff because every match I've tried to enter has kicked me to the main menu. Warframe can be sort of that if you choose only one type of mission that has this has basic. Edit: In a "what the hell why you are comparing the two games" kind of way. Tei fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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Number Ten Cocks posted:Do you know what "instant" means? If a teammate doesn't happen to be right there with a cobra then they are effectively instant, which is one reason so many people can't stand them.
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GenericOverusedName posted:I've had it happen once or twice. No clue what triggers it, just randomly lost all audio. Made soloing the last objective vs Kett as a level 1 adept rather interesting. I almost never get the voice over when I join a match in progress past the first wave.
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Digirat posted:If a teammate doesn't happen to be right there with a cobra then they are effectively instant, which is one reason so many people can't stand them. Is the time elapsed between the beginning and end of a synch kill perceptibly greater than zero? Hint: this will help you to understand what instant means. For additional help, compare to one shot sniper kills.
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Number Ten Cocks posted:Is the time elapsed between the beginning and end of a synch kill perceptibly greater than zero? Hint: this will help you to understand what instant means. For additional help, compare to one shot sniper kills. Shut up you pedantic gently caress.
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MarshyMcFly posted:I almost never get the voice over when I join a match in progress past the first wave. When I say no audio I mean absolutely any audio whatsoever. Playing in complete silence. No gun sounds, no enemy sounds, no foot steps or ability sounds, no music, nothing. May as well have unplugged my headphones. Nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.
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Pierson posted:Are there any other games besides this and Mass Effect 3 that have a similar short match/wave-based coop thing tied with random box-opening stuff because every match I've tried to enter has kicked me to the main menu. The only thing I've found that comes close is Vermintide. It's built off of a L4D skeleton, so more "moving through the level completing set onjectives" instead of waiting for things to come to you in waves. And it has its own pile of balance and technical issues, but it is pretty fun.
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GenericOverusedName posted:When I say no audio I mean absolutely any audio whatsoever. Playing in complete silence. No gun sounds, no enemy sounds, no foot steps or ability sounds, no music, nothing. May as well have unplugged my headphones. Nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada. There was a sound during MP that killed my sound system once in the same way that shotguns in XCOM would kill my 10 year old lovely Woot! system Turning it back on again was all I had to do
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Relentless posted:The only thing I've found that comes close is Vermintide. It's built off of a L4D skeleton, so more "moving through the level completing set onjectives" instead of waiting for things to come to you in waves. And it has its own pile of balance and technical issues, but it is pretty fun. Gears is close as well
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moist turtleneck posted:There was a sound during MP that killed my sound system once in the same way that shotguns in XCOM would kill my 10 year old lovely Woot! system Cool. How did you do that? Other parts of my system still make sound, I can tab out and listen to lovely music still or whatever, it's just ingame that has it dead. Restarting the game fixed it.
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moist turtleneck posted:There was a sound during MP that killed my sound system once in the same way that shotguns in XCOM would kill my 10 year old lovely Woot! system I had this happen for the first time on PS4 yesterday, and there was nothing I could do to fix it until I quit the game and restarted it. Overall this is really fun when it works, but the netcode is so awful most of the time that it really hurts the game. If they improve the netcode and make it so you don't get rubberbanded around the map by random dogs and then sync killed by the fiend that was 200 feet away it will be much better. The guns also need a major rebalance, though as an Asari adept with an equalizer I haven't been hurting too badly on that front at least. More combo damage would be good though, the apex mission yesterday with +100% damage actually felt pretty reasonable finally. I still have high hopes for this, but I think I'm taking a break for a while until we get some patches.
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Yeah, it is pretty telling that the apex mission effects that add silly numbers like +50% damage don't feel overpowered at all, they just make a lot of weapons suddenly start to feel reasonable. But I'm pretty sure you could flat out double the damage of most assault rifles and they still wouldn't be overpowered in any way. In fact, for many of them, that might not even be enough.
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limited posted:I'm also sitting on a pile of 50% XP boosters from buying the guide ( The multiplayer chapter sucks. No detailed information like damage / HP for enemies, and a cut-paste from the game for basically everything else. ) but can't use them because they're likely to get wasted. Does the guide list out weapon stats at I or X?
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Got my first Ultra-Rare its a Ushior, I was uh not pleased.
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Relentless posted:Does the guide list out weapon stats at I or X? Too lazy to research it would be my guess. Ineffiable posted:Why do we call them sync kills anyway? limited fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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