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Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Infinity Gaia posted:

I think two trips is enough to get you through even on Hard. It's tricky, but definitely doable. Anyone one-tripping it on Hard is a mystery to me entirely. Hell, I'm pretty sure even on Normal one-tripping it is very difficult.

I like to think of myself as very capable in these games and I almost got wiped by a group of 4 incubuses and had to retreat when I got reckless while low on SP and dashed directly into an enemy

I freaked out, took a deep breath, remembered they were weak to guns, and then ann absolutely refused to hit the 4th one with her SMG and everyone else was out of ammo so I got to start freaking out again after the all out attack didnt come

I ended up having to use a snuff soul there. What a waste

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Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

That feel when you attack during a 1 more because you keep expecting the menu to go back to the spell selection and not the main battle menu.

Floor is lava
May 14, 2007

Fallen Rib
Kind of hard to hold up and capture new demons when you blow them the gently caress up in one hit with their weakness. I bet I'll have to waste some time and zeni or w/e the gently caress creating low level stuff.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Meme Emulator posted:

That feel when you attack during a 1 more because you keep expecting the menu to go back to the spell selection and not the main battle menu.
this is my constant nightmare

I also feel I have to stop and read the menu for like five seconds every time. Obviously because it's new, but everything at an angle makes me go "okay...gun is up, right"

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

hyphz posted:

Since I was apparently a Phantom Thief and got caught I entered my name as "Saint Fail", which got me some comedy "Fail-kun?" references later on.

Do only bad guys have cross-gender personas?

Naoto had a male persona.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
I'm constantly staring at every element of the game's UI because I can't decide if it's beautiful, distracting, or both.

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.
One UI related thing I really like is being able to use All Out Attacks before the menu even comes up. It feels really smooth.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

YoshiOfYellow posted:

Naoto had a male persona.

Naoto wasnt trans she was just mired in institutional sexism from being in a male dominated profession and figured the easiest way to deal with it was to cover up her huge honkers. And as a result she started to resent or ignore her own femininity, seeing it as something that held her back.

hyphz
Aug 5, 2003

Number 1 Nerd Tear Farmer 2022.

Keep it up, champ.

Also you're a skeleton warrior now. Kree.
Unlockable Ben

Meme Emulator posted:

Naoto wasnt trans she was just mired in institutional sexism from being in a male dominated profession and figured the easiest way to deal with it was to cover up her huge honkers. And as a result she started to resent or ignore her own femininity, seeing it as something that held her back.

Fair enough. I was just really surprised when several of the Shadows in the castle obviously switched gender when they transformed. Made me wonder if there's a theme in there or not. (I'm not trans myself.)

Floor is lava
May 14, 2007

Fallen Rib
Its almost like she put on a mask... of a male persona...

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

Alan Is More Upset posted:

Its almost like she put on a mask... of a male persona...

dang, deep

have you considered applying to atlus

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
the shadows are drawn to the palaces by sensing the strong desire, once the enter they are warped the palace master's strong desire into whatever fits the palace to protect it, so knights for the castle, and bodyguardsmen as seen in the beginning casino. them changing into actual named demons is just them taking on forms of things known in the human heart and sometimes that's a toilet guy, or a succubus or a penis looking blob or a man on a horse

Floor is lava
May 14, 2007

Fallen Rib

boy are my arms tired posted:

dang, deep

have you considered applying to atlus

Im thinking about it tired-sempai.

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

Moltrey posted:

the shadows are drawn to the palaces by sensing the strong desire, once the enter they are warped the palace master's strong desire into whatever fits the palace to protect it, so knights for the castle, and bodyguardsmen as seen in the beginning casino. them changing into actual named demons is just them taking on forms of things known in the human heart and sometimes that's a toilet guy, or a succubus or a penis looking blob or a man on a horse

my strongest desire is penis looking blobs, yeah

dont @ me

Kay Kessler
May 9, 2013

Deified Data posted:

Not looking for an argument but what do you mean by this? It could have a couple meanings.

I mean, it was really, really unnecessary to have the teacher rape a girl, on top of all the other poo poo. Was it just the only way the writers could think to justify the characters risking killing the dude? Pretty weak.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Mishima is so sweet

...TOO sweet...

this lil piece of poo poo is gonna betray us isn't he

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."
If I had a Persona it would be Val Kilmer from the Saint.

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

so slight spoilers on who the third target is does the japanese version also refer to the criminal gang as the mafia or do they say yakuza? it seems weird if its always been mafia, just because im so used to seeing the yakuza in games and other media. if not thats kind of a weird localization thing.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



So,based on the thread so far this game is a misogynist piece of poo poo? Makes me a little more comfortable with my boycott if that's the case.

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011
I know that most people are impressed by what an incredible pile of poo poo Kamoshida is but there's something amazing about how every time I think I've found the depths the second target will sink to I break into another sub basement of awful.

The nature of his treasure was a masterpiece

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

VolticSurge posted:

So,based on the thread so far this game is a misogynist piece of poo poo? Makes me a little more comfortable with my boycott if that's the case.

One character is and the game sets him up as a villain.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Meme Emulator posted:

One character is and the game sets him up as a villain.

Apparently its over-the-top and badly written?

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

VolticSurge posted:

So,based on the thread so far this game is a misogynist piece of poo poo? Makes me a little more comfortable with my boycott if that's the case.

lmao what is this

Dred Cosmonaut
Jan 6, 2010

There once was a tiger-striped cat.

VolticSurge posted:

Apparently its over-the-top and badly written?

surprise, people on the internet are taking things too seriously again

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

it's true, the game is bad.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

Why is someone boycotting Persona 5

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Yeah, keep boycotting it SA User VolticSurge

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
Bad guy does villain things. Is not glorified for them and actively gets punished.

1/5 worst game ever.

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.

Kay Kessler posted:

I mean, it was really, really unnecessary to have the teacher rape a girl, on top of all the other poo poo. Was it just the only way the writers could think to justify the characters risking killing the dude? Pretty weak.

The whole thing is basically ripped from the headlines. There was a huge scandal in Japanese Olympic judo back in 2013 revolving around physical and sexual abuse, including, yes, rape.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

VolticSurge posted:

Apparently its over-the-top and badly written?

Its not really over the top at all in my opinion, the character seems pretty on the nose. Its just hes a character that physically and sexually abuses his students and revels in his status of being untouchable, so the subject matter can make people uncomfortable.

hyphz
Aug 5, 2003

Number 1 Nerd Tear Farmer 2022.

Keep it up, champ.

Also you're a skeleton warrior now. Kree.
Unlockable Ben

Saint Freak posted:

Yeah, keep boycotting it SA User VolticSurge

I thought it was more to do with their ridiculous threat against streamers.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Saigyouji posted:

The whole thing is basically ripped from the headlines. There was a huge scandal in Japanese Olympic judo back in 2013 revolving around physical and sexual abuse, including, yes, rape.

Sorry, that's just too over the top and badly written

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Meme Emulator posted:

Naoto wasnt trans she was just mired in institutional sexism from being in a male dominated profession and figured the easiest way to deal with it was to cover up her huge honkers. And as a result she started to resent or ignore her own femininity, seeing it as something that held her back.
uh, he just said naoto's persona was male, not that she was trans. Naoto's personas are all male.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



hyphz posted:

I thought it was more to do with their ridiculous threat against streamers.

Yeah,that's the reason I boycotted in the first place.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

I'm about to do the third month dungeon and the only over the top and badly written part so far was the multiple interminable nude posing, nude posing, nude posing scenes

MyLoathsomeCowboy
May 6, 2007
A fictitious force
The misogynist parts mentioned in this thread are regarding an arc about smashing little section of your local patriarchy, so if a game is a misogynist piece of poo poo because it portrays misogyny, then yes, it is the aforementioned poo poo piece.

It *is* an anime game though so it might be misogynist beyond that. We'll see how many tone deaf breast size jokes there are.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
If you're going to boycott things because you can't share them on the internet you're missing out on a world of entertainment then from books, movies, and Nintendo games.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Endorph posted:

uh, he just said naoto's persona was male, not that she was trans. Naoto's personas are all male.

Yea the person I quoted didnt but it was building off of this original comment:

Infinity Gaia posted:

And you, I guess. Since a persona is a representation of your true self it seems like most of the time the genders would match. However, presumably a trans person would have a persona of the opposite gender.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

VolticSurge posted:

Apparently its over-the-top and badly written?
it's not the most deep and biting criticism ever but it's pretty decently written. like you can look at it and think it's over the top how much power this guy has over the school and how badly people bend over backwards to appease him but then you look at real life cases where that exact thing happened.

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Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Meme Emulator posted:

Yea the person I quoted didnt but it was building off of this original comment:

Yeah that was me. I wasn't attempting to imply that'd be the case all the time, just that it seems probable that it would happen. It's entirely possible for a non-trans person to have an opposite gender persona if it's a case like Naotos, just as much as it'd be possible for a trans person to have a same gender persona. It's about the truth inside the heart though, which is why I theorized trans people would often have opposite gender personae.

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