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Ignoranus posted:I came across this thing called a Drain Hero, which is apparently an actual Shop-Vac branded product that basically seals over the drain and you can use the shop-vac to suck your drains clean. Reviews are overall pretty positive, although some of them mention that it stinks up the room a bit (no big surprise there). I just can't help but wonder if that's bad for your pipes? I suppose the pipes should be pretty resilient under negative pressure, but... this feels like one of those things where yes, you CAN do this, but you really shouldn't. Granted, ABS isn't rated for pressure (hence it isn't code-compliant to use on the supply side in plumbing) but the negative pressure will get concentrated on the clog and not the wall of the pipe. The vent stack after the trap will usually allow air to flow in behind it even if there's a bigger clog further down the line. The amount of suction a shop-vac can pull isn't going to do poo poo to rigid ABS. It might cause problems with severely rotted clay or cast iron, but in that case you've got way bigger problems. I've done it numerous times as a plumber. And yes it does draw sewer gas through, which is less than pleasant.
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So, then you throw away your shop vac when you're done, or...
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LonsomeSon posted:I'm not a plumber but based on my understanding of mechanical stresses and poo poo you would need to be applying approximately 1-2 metric fucktonnes of suction to the inner walls of most pipes in order to actually somehow collapse them. It's impossible to use a vacuum to make a pressure differential bigger than one atmosphere unless the whole shebang is in a pressure chamber. Given that these pipes can function as a potato gun barrel, even if they shouldn't, I suspect it's ok.
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Leperflesh posted:So, then you throw away your shop vac when you're done, or...
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Several years of washed off ejaculate can build up into a krusty mess inside your pipes. I'm sure this shop vac can clean that stuff right up.
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I bought a house 2 years ago and the main shower recently clogged. It had this horrible tan caked "substance" that came up in big sidewall of pipe shaped chunks I can only assume was stage makeup residue because the dude I bought it from is the lead in a goth rock/industrial/metal band. At least i'm reassuring myself that's what it was 
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Wouldn't it mostly just suck from the overflow in the tub/sink?
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Guy Axlerod posted:Wouldn't it mostly just suck from the overflow in the tub/sink? It would mostly just suck.
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They should make it so it cuts up the drain hair while it sucks
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I wouldn't but the tool with plans to clear clogs with it, but I've had to use shop-vacs before to get the water out of a line so it didn't all pour out when I took apart the trap or took a water closet off the wall to snake the line. The pipes will be fine in any case. You can also use a tool that's like a bike pump to flush the line with a burst of high pressure air to try to clear clogs. My boss loves it because it's nice if it works since it's a lot cleaner than using a snake, but I personally worry about blowing a no-hub apart. e: the air thing is called a kinetic water ram
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Came home from the bar on a Friday night and noticed a puddle on my kitchen floor. Follow the trail of water and its coming from under the sink, look underneath and run the water for a second and water just pours out of the pea trap. Cleaned up the mess, left a note to future me to not use the sink and went to bed. Got up in the morning and went to start dismantling the plumbing to find the leak..... Well theres your problem. Barely put any pressure trying to loosen the fitting and the entire thing spun. The entire bottom of the chrome piece that goes to the wall crumbled as soon as I touched it. Appears that there is not enough of an angle so water pooled in the pipe. Put it all back together with a $6 kit of plastic pipes from the hardware store, which should be ok for the next couple years till we start remodeling our kitchen. We are getting close to putting drywall up in our upstairs remodel(totally gutted the 2 bedrooms to create a master suite) and thankfully the worst thing we found was the original knob and tube wiring along with a couple small roof leaks where they didn't do the flashing properly around the chimney(new roof ~1.5 years ago, should be getting fixed under warranty). Wiring was in really good shape, so it wasn't an immediate fire risk. Even though the house is very sturdy an in good shape, the way it was built is kinda scary. 2x4's at ~24" for the roof with a 1x4 for the roof beam. Its also kind of funny to see the spots in the framing where they pieced together a support stud from all the off cuts, but that was standard in the 1930's when this place was built. Limited what we could do upstairs without having to bring in an engineered beam to reinforce the roof, but they still let us move a couple walls around.
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That was a freakishly casual-yet-effective fus ro dah from that guy, well done.
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Practically the exact same thing happened to me, except like an idiot I replaced it with a metal pipe instead of a plastic one, so it's probably just going to rot out again in another decade or two. Oh well. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Ignoranus posted:I came across this thing called a Drain Hero, which is apparently an actual Shop-Vac branded product that basically seals over the drain and you can use the shop-vac to suck your drains clean. Reviews are overall pretty positive, although some of them mention that it stinks up the room a bit (no big surprise there). I just can't help but wonder if that's bad for your pipes? I suppose the pipes should be pretty resilient under negative pressure, but... this feels like one of those things where yes, you CAN do this, but you really shouldn't. quote:The item is Shop-Vac 9193400 Drain Hero Lmao.
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slurry_curry posted:Came home from the bar on a Friday night and noticed a puddle on my kitchen floor. Follow the trail of water and its coming from under the sink, look underneath and run the water for a second and water just pours out of the pea trap. Cleaned up the mess, left a note to future me to not use the sink and went to bed. Got up in the morning and went to start dismantling the plumbing to find the leak..... The best you can often get at big-box is tissue-thin crap. This is why I go to plumbing supply houses to get solid-brass, chromed traps. I have three hanging out on my workbench.
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xwing posted:At the end of the day there some clients that still want crap... and they pay the bills. Even Hey man, what's wrong with metal buildings? Just because Cletus back on the farm uses that sweet galvanized "tin" to re-side his barn, and roof, and camper doesn't mean that there aren't nice options out there. (Disclaimer: people with no budget and or no taste will choose the option that looks lousy. I'm looking at you furniture row!)
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Apr 6, 2017 02:39
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 This week's mcmansion hell has incredible ceiling geometry going on
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Synthbuttrange posted:
That room looks like it was designed for minimal radar signature.
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Window seats are generally uncomfortable but bay windows are cool ⁊ good.
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I want bay windows, but instead of a standard window bed/seat, I want a captain's-style chair and holographic crosshairs for imaginary tower-defense games.
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morethanjake32 posted:Hey man, what's wrong with metal buildings? Just because Cletus back on the farm uses that sweet galvanized "tin" to re-side his barn, and roof, and camper doesn't mean that there aren't nice options out there. (Disclaimer: people with no budget and or no taste will choose the option that looks lousy. I'm looking at you furniture row!) Steel wall and roof pole-barns are still excellent buildings if you're far enough out of town to tolerate the eyesore and want a fuckoff big garage to work in.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:I want bay windows, but instead of a standard window bed/seat, I want a captain's-style chair and holographic crosshairs for imaginary tower-defense games. I hope you filed a patent.
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:That's a couch podium if I ever saw one. I was thinking Cat Lurking Spot, myself.
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Synthbuttrange posted:
Not going to post the shower pick where they had to tile some of those weird slopes?
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Window seats suck because they're a plank of hard wood that someone put a one-inch-thick slab of "cushion" on. No back, no give, terrible. I bet if you approached the window seat as if you were building a daybed or couch, with a tiny mattress, thick cushioned sides you could put your back against, etc. it'd become an actually nice place to sit.
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Leperflesh posted:Window seats suck because they're a plank of hard wood that someone put a one-inch-thick slab of "cushion" on. No back, no give, terrible. I bet if you approached the window seat as if you were building a daybed or couch, with a tiny mattress, thick cushioned sides you could put your back against, etc. it'd become an actually nice place to sit. Today's McMansion has something kind of like that: 
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I'd also love to have something like that, but the paranoid in me would be worried about letting kids play around up at the level of a window. I know a modern window should be able to put up with the amount of force a small child would be able to generate, but like I said, paranoid. This is definitely better than the guy that built a little castle or something with a parapet his kids could run along that lead right up to a window, though. At least with this there's no room to get a running start.
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I wonder if you can get house windows made of safety glass.
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Leperflesh posted:I wonder if you can get house windows made of safety glass. People use laminated windows for burglar protection. Protip: if you want to burgle a house like that, kick in the double front door instead.
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That should work, yeah, I was thinking you could probably just apply some kind of film to normal window glass and the kid might break it but probably won't get a severe cut. Just make sure the window can open easily, for fire escape purposes.
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Platystemon posted:People use laminated windows for burglar protection. The bad part of that is if you need to break the window to get out 
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brugroffil posted:The bad part of that is if you need to break the window to get out https://www.amazon.com/Towallmark-Seatbelt-Cutter-Breaker-Emergency/dp/B002AMAXNA
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Laminated glass isn't easy to destroy though. Even once it's shattered, it is still glued together with a plastic sheet between layers.
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Yeah laminated safety glass is specifically designed to prevent a person from going through the glass. It's used in the windshield of your car so you can't be thrown through it even if your seatbelt isn't on, and it also helps prevent something kicked up by a car ahead of you from penetrating the passenger compartment. You can shatter it with one of those tools, but you'll need to kick the entire pane of glass out of the seal to escape. Regular safety glass (aka "tempered glass") just breaks into cubes, which are less likely to cut you. But, it's harder to break than normal glass. You can use that tool to shatter a side window in your car and then escape easily. Which is why I said if you added film to a window in a home, you should make sure the window opens easily: it will not be as easy to escape just by breaking the glass. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Apr 6, 2017 |
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Obviously what you should do is ring the window with explosive bolts so that in an emergency you can blow the whole thing clear of the frame. Ideally, arrange it so that this also triggers one of those inflating slides at the same time. Maybe you could use one of those big pull-away rubber seals they use on bus windows? Those seem pretty decent.
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Ashcans posted:Obviously what you should do is ring the window with explosive bolts so that in an emergency you can blow the whole thing clear of the frame. Ideally, arrange it so that this also triggers one of those inflating slides at the same time. Only if the explosive bolts are fired in sequence, so it goes bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-plop!
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And then train your toddler not to set it off unless it's an emergency.
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Leperflesh posted:And then train your toddler not to set it off unless it's an emergency. "Okay dear today...". *sees button slaps it* *BANG* (One week later to repair window) "Okay now that the wins--" *slaps button, giggles* *BANG* Etc etc
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