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ShaneB posted:Anyone know the chillest shop in Austin, TX? A buddy is interested in getting into drafting. Mages sanctum is chill and good, theyre south austin. mothership is pretty good, slower than sanctum and pats but theyre north austin, they have a somewhat thriving legacy scene. pats games has the highest singles selection and basically every format fires there, the playerbase is pretty spikey though if thats a concern. I havent been to nerdstock but ive heard its pretty slow there. Dragons lair is chill but mostly casuals and they dont sell singles. (like me). Ressurected games has an okay singles selection but their events dont always fire, and when they do everyone plays in the food court. theyre more of a yugioh shop anyway. Stores in austin open and close really reallly frequently. Whose Turn on south lamar was my favorite  id say i frequent pats and dlair most often, pats has a knowledgable and communicable staff so id stay start there if youre close to it.For draft id say those are the two most laid back places for draft, and you can bring alcohol to pats.
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mcmagic posted:I'm gonna say this isn't nearly as good as it sounds... It's very slow. I don't think you're gonna be able to use this to cast spells you couldn't already cast with the mana you already have very often. The game would have to go VERY long. You can't cast a 2 drop off of it until T6.... Turn 5, actually.
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So the turn you play As Foretold you can slam a restore balance or something right?
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that explains the nerf to fuse cards also that seems insane in storm decks since it doesn't die to removal like baral or electromancer. maybe turn 5 is too slow though edit: oh it's once each turn. card is garbo unless you're casting suspend spells off of it
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YggdrasilTM posted:Turn 5, actually. Their T5, your T6.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:12
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funnily this card mentions time counters so you can get wonky cross-block synergies with cards like Jhoira's Timebug and Fury Charm
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Apr 5, 2017 22:13
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mcmagic posted:Their T5, your T6. Your T5, their T6 as well.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:13
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I miss my T1 mana dork.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:15
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Sure. But an 'indestructible' 4/4 that's going to die for no value to some flyer a lot of the time seems more questionable. I mean, if you want a real planeswalker probably run the bigger Gideon, but Gideon Gone Native is actually more difficult to kill with a random flyer.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:15
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its me glenda posted:Austin stuff Thxxx.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:16
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Your T5, their T6 as well. NM I read it wrong.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:16
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I love the story about the cat that this card(s) tells. 
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BJPaskoff posted:I love the story about the cat that this card(s) tells. Card is bad though...
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Apr 5, 2017 22:18
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BJPaskoff posted:I love the story about the cat that this card(s) tells. The cat secretly has a big butt
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Apr 5, 2017 22:20
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mcmagic posted:Card is bad though... It's a good cat, Brent.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:20
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Are you guys sure that the enchantment works with no-mana cards? It says that you pay 0 instead of the mana cost as you cast, and you can't cast Visions/Restore Balance/Living End normally. COULD be wrong, but it seems worded in that way. VV: I am a Judge, it's the kind of thing I'd check the rulings for (or, in this case, wait for the announcement) to be certain. Fist of Suns is precedent, but I don't know if it's the same. Serperoth fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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Apr 5, 2017 22:21
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Serperoth posted:Are you guys sure that the enchantment works with no-mana cards? Judge!!!!
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Thanks for this
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Serperoth posted:Are you guys sure that the enchantment works with no-mana cards? A judge friend of mine says you can't.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:26
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Serperoth posted:Are you guys sure that the enchantment works with no-mana cards? Omniscience also works this way. You don't determine mana cost until the last steps of casting a spell. Also, see this: 117.6a If an unpayable cost is increased by an effect or an additional cost is imposed, the cost is still unpayable. If an alternative cost is applied to an unpayable cost, including an effect that allows a player to cast a spell without paying its mana cost, the alternative cost may be paid. It could be that you can't but it wouldn't make sense based on the current conventions.
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Serperoth posted:Are you guys sure that the enchantment works with no-mana cards? Wouldn't this be the difference between "without paying its mana cost" and "rather than pay its mana cost"?
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Apr 5, 2017 22:26
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Serperoth posted:Are you guys sure that the enchantment works with no-mana cards? It kinda looks like you have to be able to cast the spell to pay 0 for it. So Living End et all don't work but Ornithopter does.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:27
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gwrtheyrn posted:Wouldn't this be the difference between "without paying its mana cost" and "rather than pay its mana cost"? That seems to be the difference to me, yeah. And the "as you cast", since you have to already be casting it for the payment to apply. Again, could be wrong. Ultima66 posted:Omniscience also works this way. You don't determine mana cost until the last steps of casting a spell. Also, see this: That's a different thing, the second part is what allows Goblin Dank-Dwellers to cast no-cost spells from your graveyard. Or so it reads to me
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Apr 5, 2017 22:34
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Serperoth posted:That seems to be the difference to me, yeah. And the "as you cast", since you have to already be casting it for the payment to apply. Again, could be wrong. TIL there's a step between casting and paying for the spell.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:36
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mcmagic posted:A judge friend of mine says you can't. LOL now he says you can.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:40
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Where is the ruling that something like fist of suns can't cast cascade cards anyways? The ruling on gatherer says it's just an alternate cost, but I can't see why they went with such a wordy rules text if they're the same unless you can't cast cascade cards or they're really intent on making sure people realize you still have to pay any taxing effects
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mcmagic posted:LOL now he says you can. The internet hivemind does seem to be settling on "yes, it works"
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Apr 5, 2017 22:44
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On a second read, it seems to be like the Fist of Suns wording, no "as you cast" I may or may not have kind of failed at reading the card, especially on consideration of Fist of Suns. I can wait for an announcement to be certain, seems like the exact kind of thing they'd explain
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Apr 5, 2017 22:45
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Insult to injury feels like it might find a deck, especially since it isn't limited to red spells and creatures. Rags to riches and cut to ribbons feel like limited uncommons to me, seems weird to make them rare.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:59
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As far as limited goes, I think these split cards are going to play a lot better than they look. Getting back an overcosted card is still added value.
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Rigel posted:As far as limited goes, I think these split cards are going to play a lot better than they look. Getting back an overcosted card is still added value. Obviously this is just a huge oversimplification, but on average I like to ask myself how the card would look if I replaced the aftermath with "draw a card."
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Apr 5, 2017 23:04
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clamiam45 posted:Obviously this is just a huge oversimplification, but on average I like to ask myself how the card would look if I replaced the aftermath with "draw a card." Draw "this specific card."
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Apr 5, 2017 23:06
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PJOmega posted:Draw "this specific card." At this point just evaluate the card as written. 
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Apr 5, 2017 23:15
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Rags to riches is one of the clunkier ones. If the halves were only 1 mana off you could sweep small stuff and have a much higher chance of getting gas from your opponent next turn. 3 mana is a lot turns though.
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That enchantment is not garbo at all. It's aether vial that can do 'or less', hits all spell types, and works twice per untap all for the cost of 1u extra??? e: It lets you tap out and keep up counterspells! This card could singlehandedly bring back control possibly.
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Rigel posted:As far as limited goes, I think these split cards are going to play a lot better than they look. Getting back an overcosted card is still added value. yea anything that gives you something to do on the turn when you topdeck land #8 is going to be solid in limited
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:That enchantment is not garbo at all. It's aether vial that can do 'or less', hits all spell types, and works twice per untap all for the cost of 1u extra??? thats a really good explanation for why its bad
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:twice per untap ... not that I play it.
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ShaneB posted:Anyone know the chillest shop in Austin, TX? A buddy is interested in getting into drafting. Wonkos (up north) is probably about the most new player friendly (as designed by the owner), so I'd start there. Owner has a story where some gut went to all the shops in austin, and only at wonkos did people explain things and be helpful (ended up being a comic on mtg page). My favorite is card traders (north) tonight (I'll be there), which is chill but competitive. Everyone wins a prize, but first place is where you always hope to end up. Also, best prize support for prerelease. Pats is good too, but I'd head to wonkos first.
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Does anybody know how the translated names for these split cards are working? Do they get translated into roughly-equivalent phrases in the target languages, or do they just translate the English words and hope it works out?
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