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OhDearGodNo posted:Figured I'd post and update on my Ferrus manus has some nice ferrous manos!
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chutche2 posted:When taking generic superheavy tanks for space marines, do you take the Escalation version or the Crusade Imperialis version? I'm not sure what you're doing here. Use the forge world red books. How are you taking a storm lord in s legion list? "Other superheavies" box out?
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TTerrible posted:I'm not sure what you're doing here. Use the forge world red books. How are you taking a storm lord in s legion list? "Other superheavies" box out? Yes, the box at the start of the legion age of darkness list that gives you a list of all the superheavies you can take. Baneblade, stormlord, shadowsword, etc. It doesn't actually give a source for where to take them, and mentions ignoring 41st millennium options like commissar tanks which makes me think it's meant to be from IA or Escalation and not the crusade red book.
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chutche2 posted:Yes, the box at the start of the legion age of darkness list that gives you a list of all the superheavies you can take. Baneblade, stormlord, shadowsword, etc. It doesn't actually give a source for where to take them, and mentions ignoring 41st millennium options like commissar tanks which makes me think it's meant to be from IA or Escalation and not the crusade red book. Escalation and IA are for 40k though. The red book is 30k. Use the red book.
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TTerrible posted:Escalation and IA are for 40k though. The red book is 30k. Use the red book. Then why does it say not to use 41st millennium items like commissar tanks? And which red book has the marauder bomber, marauder destroyer, macharius, or crassus? Those are in the legion generic superheavy list and don't appear in any red book.
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Ignoring 41st millennium items is for superheavies that don't have a red book entry. EDIT: I don't know where those units are - but if the unit has a red book entry then that is the one you should be using.
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Has anyone said we should forgo the narrative yet cause if not patent pending.
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TTerrible posted:Ignoring 41st millennium items is for superheavies that don't have a red book entry. This. If a unit has a Red Book entry, you use that entry. If a unit does not have a red book entry, you use the most recently published entry for the unit.
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If I make my own version in my own red book, does that count as ~forging the narrative~
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Narratives aren't forged in 30k, because we should all be reenacting battles from the books. If you get a different result from the novel you're doing it wrong.
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I don't forge narratives. I cast them. Or was it weld? I forget.
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Book report time! Horus Heresy, Book 28 - Scars It's a sad statement on the inconsistent quality of the Horus Heresy series that the first question anyone should ask is: "should I read this one?" I think the answer to that question when asked in regards to Scars is yes. The book has some flaws, but is overall an engaging look at the least well known legion. Scars contains three separate plot lines that converge at the end, each dealing with the crisis of loyalty and confidence the White Scars legion faces after emerging from warp storm isolation to learn of the Horus Heresy. The first plot focuses on two legionnaires, one Terran born and the other a native of Chogoris. Through these two characters we learn of the moral values of the legion, it's daily rites and procedures, and the presence of the corrupting warrior lodges within the Scars. The White Scars are, perhaps, the most human of the legionies astartes, their genecoded morality enforcing a belief in freedom, spirituality, and honor. White Scars legionnaires don't think of themselves as above the mortal advisors or attendants they use, showing respect for humans more readily than they do for other legions. We also learn that the White Scars have no dreadnoughts, seeing them as an inhuman and dishonorable fate for a warrior. The second plot centers on the chief librarian of the White Scars who learns of the true nature of Horus' perfidy from a group of shattered survivors of Istvaan. This was an engaging plotline and most of the combat in the book is captured here in various boarding operations the shattered legions make against Word Bearers. The combat is tight and straightforward and not the over the top bolter porn that drags down so many books in the series. We also get a look into how the White Scars think of psykers and Nikaea. The Khan was close to Magnus, but his librarians and stormsmiths held to a philosophy that the great ocean (the warp) was full of danger and only use of its surface could be permitted. We learn that the Khan desired to defend the Librarius at Nikaea (and could have) but Horus conspired to see him engaged in a distant campaign. Without his voice of reason to balance the passion of Magnus, Nikaea was doomed to result in judgment against the Librarius. The third plot looks at the Khan's own struggles to learn the truth of the heresy and to decide where to lend his legion's support. Horrified to learn of the burning of Prospero, the Khan assumes at first that Leman Russ has rebelled. Later he is harassed by the Alpha Legion (who seem to want to push the Khan into supporting the Emperor), finally he travels to Prospero to learn the truth and depth of the crimes there. The Khan is written as an enigmatic, but thoughtful primarch. He cares about humanity, but also cares about his own freedom. He rejects all attempts by any of the various forces to push him into a decision. He takes his time and ultimately chooses to support Terra (as we know) but to do so at a distance. He does not return to Earth, he does not aid Leman Russ, he ignores Dorn's calls for help, and instead looks for his own way forward. Much of the book is slow, but I found this to be appealing and characterful for the legion. Yes, the White Scars are the fastest legion, specializing in hit and run warfare, but they are also nomadic and in many ways primitive. They take their time deciding what to do and how to do it, then they get it done. The second half of the book is less engaging than the first and somewhat limited in it's ability to reward the reader because the outcome is well known. I think the real reward here is a closer look at how this legion thinks and feels and what it values. There is one other theme of note in this book: that of the total failure of the Emperor to inform any of his sons about the true nature of the universe. Multiple characters remark on it. The sigillite says "we focused only on what had to be done, not on explaining why it had to be done." It seems like an attempt by the writers of the series to signal their awareness of how much the Emperor hosed up. (This continues a bit in the next book, Vengeful Spirit, where we learn more about how misinformed the Emperor is about the state of the war - mostly because of an endless war at the center of Terra against the demons unleashed by Magnus.) I think this is the first book to openly suggest that Emperor is in over his head and the chaos gods really have done a number on his grand plans.
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OhDearGodNo posted:Figured I'd post and update on my I see you are going with the optional head bit.
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Xir posted:I don't forge narratives. I cast them. Or was it weld? I forget. Fabricate narratives!
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Stanyer89 posted:I see you are going with the optional head bit. My son plays EC. Prior to gluing, it disappeared no less than 4 times.
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OhDearGodNo posted:My son plays EC. Prior to gluing, it disappeared no less than 4 times. Owned by your own heretic son.
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GreenMarine posted:Book report time! This is a good review, and you are doing the Lord's work. I might actually read this book now on the strength of what you've said here. I put my Spartan and Medusa together and based them today. The Spartan went together easily, the Medusa not so much. Whoever designed that hull floor to be two parts is a jerk and should be made to life with his fingers permanently glued together.
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OhDearGodNo posted:My son plays EC.
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Fulgrim is dope and so are Emperor's Children.
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I would not accept my son playing as anyone but EC.
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Xir posted:This is a good review, and you are doing the Lord's work. I might actually read this book now on the strength of what you've said here. Scars is v good and is background knowledge for Path Of Heaven, aka the best non ADB book.
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panascope posted:Fulgrim is dope and so are Emperor's Children. Quoted for Imperial Truth. I love my beautiful boys. 
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Put 'em on Jetbikes. Dickbikes for the Sex Cult.
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I've got 12 jetbikes for my EC 
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OhDearGodNo posted:My son plays EC. This technically makes you Emperor.
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panascope posted:Fulgrim is a dope
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Re: EC To be fair, he's 18 so short of kicking him out I have to accept it, and he's paying rent so... I really for bad for him however in that his Lancer isn't technically legal in an organized fashion which is bullshit.
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America, a great country, where your children must pay rent so the family can afford Chinese resin
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Better than waiting in line at a Soviet Games Workshop to redeem your resin tickets for miscast Kazakh plastics.
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panascope posted:Better than waiting in line at a Soviet Games Workshop to redeem your resin tickets for miscast Kazakh plastics. I'm trying to figure out how to work this into a Latvian Potato Joke.
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BULBASAUR posted:America, a great country, where your children must pay rent so the family can afford Chinese resin On a srs note I apply it to help him be adultish (funding a secure credit card, emergency fund, and soon to be the start of an IRA) and get him financially aware- moreso than me. That being said the Knight Lancer was from Z...
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OhDearGodNo posted:On a srs note I apply it to help him be adultish (funding a secure credit card, emergency fund, and soon to be the start of an IRA) and get him financially aware- moreso than me. We're having enough problems over here right now without that. Thanks. 
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TTerrible posted:We're having enough problems over here right now without that. Thanks. It's ok, I bought my EC Lancer from the Kingdom of Great Britain in AUD.
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Does anyone know how big the Custodes dreads are? I want to buy a couple and paint them purple to serve as EC. Is there anything specific on them that isn't basically the exact heraldry of Emperor's Children? e: even the filigree screams EC and would look rad in gold over purple.
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panascope posted:Fulgrim is dope and so are Emperor's Children. yeah nah
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The Sex Cannon posted:yeah nah How could you write this after reading Fulgrim's Hole?
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Want to hear about Adepticon? Want to hear about how hobo-chic Sex Cannon and I are? Wanna hear me talk about my best and worst games of 30k ever? Well tune in to this special bonus Badcast! https://40kbadcast.com/2017/04/06/40k-badcast-bonus-episode-adepticast-2017/ panascope posted:How could you write this after reading Fulgrim's Hole? I read that story and now I'm not allowed within 300 yards of schools or nursing homes
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SRM posted:or nursing homes 
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OhDearGodNo posted:On a srs note I apply it to help him be adultish (funding a secure credit card, emergency fund, and soon to be the start of an IRA) and get him financially aware- moreso than me. I couldn't resist. It was just such low hanging fruit.
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JBP posted:Does anyone know how big the Custodes dreads are? I want to buy a couple and paint them purple to serve as EC. Is there anything specific on them that isn't basically the exact heraldry of Emperor's Children? You should be able to use the symbols straight up. The EC were the only legion given the right to bear the imperial aquila, which is also a symbol of the custodes.
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