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Just starting this thing. I'm at the Amusement Park and I don't love the combat yet (still gradually unlocking stuff, so I'm hoping it grows on me), but I really like the music / atmosphere so far. e: oh and I love how they play with 2D / 3D. Postmaster GBS fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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# ? May 12, 2024 12:13 |
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Jumping into chipset talk from earlier, Taunt is the best chip. I only had a +4 but it was just so drat good I didn't feel the need to get a more powerful version. Combined with weapon attack up and charge attack up and my combos were basically melting bots. Think the toughest bot I found lasted maybe three hits. Why bother with healing or defense when you can just kill everything?
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 04:03 |
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Postmaster GBS posted:Just starting this thing. I'm at the Amusement Park and I don't love the combat yet (still gradually unlocking stuff, so I'm hoping it grows on me), but I really I can tell you know the combat really doesn't have any secrets left to you as far as the sword stuff goes. I was pretty disappointed by how shallow it was.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 06:03 |
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Most of the combat depth comes from experimenting with weapon combinations. I found bracers and spear to be good fun.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 06:45 |
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Ok I'm on my first playthrough and I'm feeling a little burnt out. I did the mission where you have to go to the factory with Pascal, then I fought to big round robots, then my base was on fire, now I'm in the middle of a very dramatic fight... I feel like I've been railroaded for the last two hours and don't seem to be allowed to buy items anywhere. Am I close to being able to go grind up items & weapons yet? I've been SSS ranking Bayonetta & DMC for years but turned it down to easy because all the boss fights in a row with no items is just an unfun slog.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 07:56 |
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Bust Rodd posted:Ok I'm on my first playthrough and I'm feeling a little burnt out. I did the mission where you have to go to the factory with Pascal, then I fought to big round robots, then my base was on fire, now I'm in the middle of a very dramatic fight... I feel like I've been railroaded for the last two hours and don't seem to be allowed to buy items anywhere. Am I close to being able to go grind up items & weapons yet? you're in the end game (of that playthough) like last or second last boss
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 08:00 |
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You can buy 99 of all hp items for like 100k
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 08:33 |
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Ok I powered through. I just kept expecting, I dunno, a clearer indicator that it was time to grind up my pod and my weapons. I guess that's what the 2nd playthrough is for?
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 09:05 |
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Bust Rodd posted:Ok I powered through. I just kept expecting, I dunno, a clearer indicator that it was time to grind up my pod and my weapons. The first and second endings aren't so much endings as they are chapter conclusions anyway.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 09:31 |
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Mazerunner posted:yes but make sure you have fast travel first How/when do I get fast travel? Just keep doing story?
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 10:45 |
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Yup.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 10:50 |
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theres basically zero reason to not just rush the story until you get fast travel. at least i havent noticed any quest disapearing up to that point.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 11:00 |
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you get fast travel after you kill the dragon
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 11:03 |
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Iretep posted:theres basically zero reason to not just rush the story until you get fast travel. at least i havent noticed any quest disapearing up to that point. yeah i wish i had known this ahead of time because i was running back and forth for like every sidequest i could between story beats
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 11:18 |
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I want my save data back.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 11:45 |
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Tipme posted:I want my save data back.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 12:26 |
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I finished A-E (plus K, by accident, and I hadn't saved..) At least twenty people lost their save data to get me through the final bullet hell. I cannot believe that 1. A credit sequence brutalised me, over and over and 2. I cried over a credit sequence. That was an incredible game, and always use overclock.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 12:32 |
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Can anyone tell me what level I should be at to fight the level 99 bonus bosses. I finished route e but 9s hacking dorsnt seem to doing any damage to him at level 60
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 13:56 |
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imweasel09 posted:Can anyone tell me what level I should be at to fight the level 99 bonus bosses. I finished route e but 9s hacking dorsnt seem to doing any damage to him at level 60 I had a reasonable time of it in the low 80s. You should go kill the golden bunny in the amusement park a few times, it'll get you where you need to be really fast, especially if you kill it by hacking it to death. To unlock the ability to target it, hack something in the area and kill all the other robots in the immediate vicinity.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 13:59 |
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King of Solomon posted:I had a reasonable time of it in the low 80s. You should go kill the golden bunny in the amusement park a few times, it'll get you where you need to be really fast, especially if you kill it by hacking it to death. To unlock the ability to target it, hack something in the area and kill all the other robots in the immediate vicinity. I never in a million years would have figured that out. Thanks.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 14:11 |
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I want to do my part and help everyone, but the announcement that we'll see what's in the locked elevators soon is keeping me from doing so. Forgive me.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 15:16 |
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RanKizama posted:I want to do my part and help everyone, but the announcement that we'll see what's in the locked elevators soon is keeping me from doing so. Forgive me. the ones with the apologetic machines??
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 15:26 |
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THE loving MOON posted:the ones with the apologetic machines??
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 15:33 |
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RanKizama posted:Yeah. I'm holding out to see what comes of that. I was just googling for it and couldnt find anything. Did yoko taro say something on his tiwtter?
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 15:42 |
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imweasel09 posted:I never in a million years would have figured that out. Thanks.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 17:54 |
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God is there an easy way to get Pure Water? I just want to upgrade my dang pod and I'm two short.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 18:37 |
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Blaine the Train posted:God is there an easy way to get Pure Water? I just want to upgrade my dang pod and I'm two short. Grab the items near the Flooded City access point. If you got any, save. Load game and do it again until you're done.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 19:01 |
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THE loving MOON posted:I was just googling for it and couldnt find anything. Did yoko taro say something on his tiwtter? https://twitter.com/SaitoYosuke_Z/status/846983046146506752
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 19:20 |
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That's why he's the final endboss.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 19:21 |
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Blaine the Train posted:God is there an easy way to get Pure Water? I just want to upgrade my dang pod and I'm two short. Don't worry, the Gadget grind is an order of magnitude worse.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 19:24 |
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RanKizama posted:Yosuke Saito did. So... something is up? google's japanese > english tool wasn't too clear.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 20:59 |
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Mindblast posted:So... something is up? google's japanese > english tool wasn't too clear. Supposedly it says something like "Just a little bit longer until we see what's behind the apologetic robot"
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 21:04 |
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Saagonsa posted:Supposedly it says something like "Just a little bit longer until we see what's behind the apologetic robot" all doors lead to the same cavern, and the cavern contains nowe, where he's been locked away and forgotten until now. and now you've let him loose. way to go, hero.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 21:18 |
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Does hard mode change the hacking in any way?
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 21:29 |
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I just had a long talk with a friend regarding Adam and it kinda threw me for a loop. Mostly what his motivation and reason for doing what he's doing through the game. Spoilers for route B and everything relating to Adam. Basically her view was that Adam's only drive is his fascination with humans. He reads books, he imitates humans, going even so far as to die in the same way as them. The puppet show in route B that shows a lanky figure whose treasure is Hate represents either Eve or some other machine according to her. According to her during the entire 2nd fight Adam doesn't show a hint of hatred. She doesn't see Adam's actions as being driven by hatred at all, which is the polar opposite of my interpretation. His view of humanity's core being conflict, the puppet show mentioned before (Which I'm 100% sure is meant to represent Adam), his talk during the 2nd fight and how he lights up when 2B reveals her hatred for him... All those point to me that Adam is driven purely by hatred. So who's more in the right here? This is kinda driving me crazy since I thought I had him figured out, but her views are just something I never contemplated.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 21:42 |
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Archer666 posted:I just had a long talk with a friend regarding Adam and it kinda threw me for a loop. Mostly what his motivation and reason for doing what he's doing through the game. Spoilers for route B and everything relating to Adam. I think Adam really like the idea of hatred, but he had no real catalyst to experience it. He was fascinated by hatred. But his death allowed Eve to actually experience hatred in a way that Adam never did.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 21:45 |
Archer666 posted:I just had a long talk with a friend regarding Adam and it kinda threw me for a loop. Mostly what his motivation and reason for doing what he's doing through the game. Spoilers for route B and everything relating to Adam. I think he's driven by hatred in that he desires hatred, rather than him currently harboring hatred
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 22:20 |
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Archer666 posted:I just had a long talk with a friend regarding Adam and it kinda threw me for a loop. Mostly what his motivation and reason for doing what he's doing through the game. Spoilers for route B and everything relating to Adam. I'd say that all of the machines are fascinated with humans, so in a way she is right. But each of them fixate on different things. It seems to me that Adam and Eve are basically about the duality of love and hate, which reflects the nature of their birth. Adam is the hate side of the pair, I think, especially when you consider the dismissive way he treats his brother, the way he evolves as you attack him in This Cannot Continue (how he's completely passive to start with, also). Meanwhile, while Eve is maddened by Adam's death, I would call that a consequence of his love, his destructive rampage is too unfocused for hatred. I think the confusion is that Adam shows on the surface a very intellectual version of hatred. But he still tortures 9S just to make 2B feel bad.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 23:09 |
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Eve-talk actually reminds me, how exactly do the machines tie into the Drakengard poo poo? Is that ever actually explained in some document I missed, or is it Drakengard 3 flower levels of "just there, we won't explain it, deal with it"? Specifically the fact that all of the collectors in C using angelic text, and Eve having the Watcher decal tattoo when he ends up going nuts. I only read TDI's LP of those games after the fact, but that three eyed sigil stood out even not knowing what it was representing.
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# ? Apr 6, 2017 23:31 |
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How do you get Emil to change his inventory again? I've stopped him along all three of his usual routes but he never carries anything other than plug-in chips. EDIT: Nevermind, Finally got him to carry something else. Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Apr 7, 2017 |
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