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barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


WarpedNaba posted:

So it's basically Ankh Morpork before Sam Vimes Jr was born?

I just realized why the stories by China posters in this thread sound vaguely familiar, as if I've read about them somewhere before.

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Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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Men at Arms by Terry Pratchett posted:

“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.”

As I'm currently wearing yet another pair of Chinese-made shoes, I very much appreciate this passage now.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Fauxtool posted:

Is it reverse racist when Koreans see me on the street and pull open their eyes wide while pointing?

No, that's just racist. Reverse racism is that butthurt "tolerate my intolerance or you're the REAL RACIST here" poo poo that bigots inevitably come out with

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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Duterte claims Philippine troops have been sent to occupy South China Sea reefs!

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/04/06/just-philippines-duterte-orders-troops-south-china-sea-reefs/

Looks like my dream of dying for Queen and Country is getting ever closer to reality.

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem
You will need these

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Not enough ghost money was burned and the strippers at the funeral were ugly and unenthusiastic. The ancestors rage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0YNByakfno

Shamelessly stolen from reddit and labeled as mine. I'm getting a hang of the mainland way. HALLLOU thread!!!

Jusupov
May 24, 2007
only text

hakimashou posted:

China used to have an aircraft carrier they bought from Russia or Belarus called the Minsk, it was an amusement park/museum in Shenzhen and was really badass.

Most of the stuff in the control room was picked clean but I managed to snag a piece of wire from the communications room as a souvenir.

Used to? I remember visiting it several years ago and they were upgrading the infrastructure around it

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

JaucheCharly posted:

Not enough ghost money was burned and the strippers at the funeral were ugly and unenthusiastic. The ancestors rage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0YNByakfno

Shamelessly stolen from reddit and labeled as mine. I'm getting a hang of the mainland way. HALLLOU thread!!!

Why would you run for your life when you can kan re nao?

Sekenr
Dec 12, 2013




hakimashou posted:

China used to have an aircraft carrier they bought from Russia or Belarus called the Minsk, it was an amusement park/museum in Shenzhen and was really badass.

Most of the stuff in the control room was picked clean but I managed to snag a piece of wire from the communications room as a souvenir.

Someone should tell them about ghosts on the Minsk. There are a bunch of horror stories about Minsk and her sister ship Kiev. Good ole USSR lacked experience in carrier design and organization which led to a constant problem when the mess hall wasn't able to feed all the people during their lunch break, so some had to get back to post still hungry because they wasted the break waiting in line. This lead to officers cooking their own food on portable heaters in their cabins which in turn lead to a number of fires on board. Also, someone was regularly killing sailors and they couldn't figure out who and how to stop it.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Why would you run for your life when you can kan re nao?

Not a real tornado - just a (big) dust devil.


I'd be running up and taking photos, too. That poo poo's cool as hell.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1468-2281.12133/abstract

Here is an interesting journal article if you can get past the paywall. A British journalist was arrested in China during the Cultural Revolution in retaliation for the Hong Kong colonial government arresting communist journalists. The British government asked Hong Kong to release the journalists, and the Hong Kong government responded by saying "gently caress off, we have our autonomy, don't interfere". Negotiations ensued and the Hong Kong government basically agreed to lesson, but not eliminate, the sentences of the arrested communist journalists.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

dumb and kinda scared posted:

Someone should tell them about ghosts on the Minsk. There are a bunch of horror stories about Minsk and her sister ship Kiev. Good ole USSR lacked experience in carrier design and organization which led to a constant problem when the mess hall wasn't able to feed all the people during their lunch break, so some had to get back to post still hungry because they wasted the break waiting in line. This lead to officers cooking their own food on portable heaters in their cabins which in turn lead to a number of fires on board. Also, someone was regularly killing sailors and they couldn't figure out who and how to stop it.

I've never read about that last part, do you have a link?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Lol this place in sham shui po tried to cheat me out of a free coffee, tellin me it isnt included, but even though i dont know many characters i can loving tell that the thing at the bottom says (cold drink add 3 dollars) in Chinese. So a hot drink must be included. The food was poo poo and lukewarm so not coming here again anyway but gently caress it gimme a goddamn coffee, how loving cheap can you get? Also i think im also entitled to soup, pretty sure it says 'and soup' not 'or soup' but i dont want any.

She saw me putting characters into translate and stole the menu away fast but i had taken a photo. I knew i was right but wasnt gonna argue unless id translated it and was 100% sure. I called her coworker over again and pointed at the photo of the menu and i have my coffee now. loving racists. I heard her tell her coworker something about 'gweilo' and 'drink' after I'd first ordered the food, so pretty sure she was tellin him not to give me one which is presumably why he called her over to talk to me instead of getting me one right away when I brought it up.

If i was petty id pour sugar all over the table and drop a bunch of chopsticks on the floor but someone has to have the moral high ground act like a loving adult

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
:glomp: i love u man, hang in there

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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I'm on vacation next week, let's go to Mido Cafe

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible
when i get back to china im going to start every conversation and email with "Hey Chinese,"

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

simplefish posted:

Lol this place in sham shui po tried to cheat me out of a free coffee, tellin me it isnt included, but even though i dont know many characters i can loving tell that the thing at the bottom says (cold drink add 3 dollars) in Chinese. So a hot drink must be included. The food was poo poo and lukewarm so not coming here again anyway but gently caress it gimme a goddamn coffee, how loving cheap can you get? Also i think im also entitled to soup, pretty sure it says 'and soup' not 'or soup' but i dont want any.

She saw me putting characters into translate and stole the menu away fast but i had taken a photo. I knew i was right but wasnt gonna argue unless id translated it and was 100% sure. I called her coworker over again and pointed at the photo of the menu and i have my coffee now. loving racists. I heard her tell her coworker something about 'gweilo' and 'drink' after I'd first ordered the food, so pretty sure she was tellin him not to give me one which is presumably why he called her over to talk to me instead of getting me one right away when I brought it up.

If i was petty id pour sugar all over the table and drop a bunch of chopsticks on the floor but someone has to have the moral high ground act like a loving adult

She's probably longing for the good ol' days when smart phones didn't exist and foreigners just went, "Ooo! Ah! The 'Orient' is so mystical and magical!" rather than actually learning something about the language.

Is anyone here bilingual from childhood? What's it like being a native speaker of another language that most outsiders don't know? Have you ever used it to your advantage to be dishonest? I've never really had that experience being a native monolingual English speaker.

kimcicle
Feb 23, 2003

nickmeister posted:

Is anyone here bilingual from childhood? What's it like being a native speaker of another language that most outsiders don't know?

"HEY KIMCICLE SAY SOME OF THAT CHING CHONG DING DONG"

(but that's probably more of a product of growing up in Texas)

nickmeister posted:

Have you ever used it to your advantage to be dishonest?

Dishonest? Nah, unless you count talking poo poo to people in front of them because they can't understand what you're saying.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

kimcicle posted:

Dishonest? Nah, unless you count talking poo poo to people in front of them because they can't understand what you're saying.

This and having discussions about how much to pay for things are 90% of its use. The remaining portion is for ordering what you want from a restaurant.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

kimcicle posted:

Dishonest? Nah, unless you count talking poo poo to people in front of them because they can't understand what you're saying.

Two of the English teachers in my first Korean high school were fluent in Spanish and would occasionally speak it in the office to practice. There was a memo released saying this was no longer allowed because it was rude to speak in another language in front of people who could not speak it. (they were worried that the foreign staff was going to talk poo poo about the Korean staff). Irony being one of them was about 70% fluent in Korean and would hear all manner of stuff that was spoken about himself and the other foreign teachers by the Korean staff. Funny thing was that he made it no secret that he knew Korean, but the Korean (mostly male) staff would continue to talk poo poo in front of him.

Edit: From earlier in the thread, my best examples of Chinese talking poo poo in front of people who know what they are saying. This was about one of my coworkers from China (who was white with red hair) but grew up in Hong Kong and was also fluent in Mandarin and made no attempt to hide it.

Blistex posted:

She had instances where she would literally introduce herself to Chinese teachers (in Mandarin), do a minute or so of small talk (in Mandarin), then not 5 minutes later the staff would start talking about her, out loud amongst themselves. The two most outrageous incidents happened at another high school we both worked at where we showed up on the first day and were introduced to the staff, and she would do her thing, "Hi, I'm Jennifer, I'm from Hong Kong, this is my first time in Liaoning province, I'm excited to meet and work with all of you (all of this in Mandarin). We took a seat, were chilling in the staff room having coffee while everyone was socializing before classes started, and a group of female teachers were looking (and pointing) at her and talking loudly. I asked her what they were saying about her (didn't need to be fluent in Mandarin to figure it out) and she sighed and said, "They don't think my hair is actually red, and they think my insulated vest looks too much like an older style. . . also my freckles are hideous".

Another time, a few weeks later, (after we had become well known, and she had continued to speak Mandarin to everyone) we were in the same staff room and the vice principal came in and told the head teacher in Charge of us that we should be sent home before classes, and told that English classes had been cancelled for the whole week, and that the school will pocket the money they were given to pay us (we were being sub-contracted to another high school as part of a program). The head teacher (who had spoken to her numerous times IN MANDARIN) told the VP that he would tell us that the kids had gone on a week-long school trip.

We get the message from the head teacher, mouths agape out of shock, nod, and leave the school. We go straight to our program director at the main school we worked at, and she tells him EXACTLY what had just happened (in Mandarin), and he asks her in broken English, "how could you know this?".

Blistex fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 6, 2017

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

https://twitter.com/mikefanok/status/836405922796691457

https://twitter.com/mikefanok/status/836406499815501824

https://twitter.com/mikefanok/status/836416749834649601

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

nickmeister posted:

She's probably longing for the good ol' days when smart phones didn't exist and foreigners just went, "Ooo! Ah! The 'Orient' is so mystical and magical!" rather than actually learning something about the language.

Is anyone here bilingual from childhood? What's it like being a native speaker of another language that most outsiders don't know? Have you ever used it to your advantage to be dishonest? I've never really had that experience being a native monolingual English speaker.

I constantly engage in elaborate deceptions using Icelandic that would be the envy of even the most inscrutable and deceitful oriental.

(No ya just talk poo poo if you into that, all I ever done with it was for pretendin not to speak English/German when barkers were trying to get me somewhere)

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler


Is there any manner of context to go with this? Did Jimmy Kimmel previously hurt the feelings of the Chinese people?

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Blistex posted:

Is there any manner of context to go with this? Did Jimmy Kimmel previously hurt the feelings of the Chinese people?

I have no idea.

e: oh, wait: http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/showbiz/jimmy-kimmel-china-apology/

Pastry of the Year fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Apr 6, 2017

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Wait this dude is angry about a dumb joke made four years ago?

Jesus

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Why does this dude have a buff white man as his avatar?

Shouldn't he have that swole Chinese lifter dude?

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Ron Darling posted:

Wait this dude is angry about a dumb joke made four years ago?

Jesus

5000 years of chip on the shoulder

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.
College Slice

quote:

"Ensuring President Xi does not lose face is a top priority for China," one Chinese official told Reuters news agency.

A top priority for the Xi's meeting with Trump.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39517569

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Sten Freak posted:

A top priority for the Xi's meeting with Trump.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39517569

I don't entirely think that's a problem with this president

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ron Darling posted:

I don't entirely think that's a problem with this president

trump is gonna own xi so hard and you know it. Little stuff like give him a pen with no ink or a chair with uneven legs to make him look foolish. So much face will be lost

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

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Remember Mack Horton, the Australian swimmer who called out Chinese drug cheats? He's STILL getting angry spam on Twitter, and his Facebook when I checked it a few months ago (he has since set the settings to "unlisted" as the links don't work anymore). 5000 years of anger at Jimmy Kimmel is to be expected.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/850150507096162304

:qq: :china:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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lmao this is a loving idiotic and retarded offer on its very obvious face which means Trump will agree to it

Tweezer Reprise
Aug 6, 2013

It hasn't got six strings, but it's a lot of fun.
In the late 1880s, the German company Krupp was contracted by the Chinese government to build a series of fortifications around Port Arthur. Reportedly, this was after local contractors had "made an extensive bungle of the job."[4]

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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good im glad of it

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Blistex posted:

Two of the English teachers in my first Korean high school were fluent in Spanish and would occasionally speak it in the office to practice. There was a memo released saying this was no longer allowed because it was rude to speak in another language in front of people who could not speak it. (they were worried that the foreign staff was going to talk poo poo about the Korean staff). Irony being one of them was about 70% fluent in Korean and would hear all manner of stuff that was spoken about himself and the other foreign teachers by the Korean staff. Funny thing was that he made it no secret that he knew Korean, but the Korean (mostly male) staff would continue to talk poo poo in front of him.

I always enjoyed this. Literally no one, staff or student, at any school I worked at in Korea ever picked up that I actually spoke some Korean and could understand what they were saying about me. I punished multiple students every single day for telling me to gently caress off or whatever in Korean, often the same student daily, and not one of them ever seemed to put together that I understood them. Reaction of total shock every single time I translated all the vocab words on the board or wrote anything at all in Korean.

Where I am in China, I get a shock reaction from students the first time I translate vocab on the board or something, and then it ends. I am not sure if it's because of some cultural difference or the fact that here I have older students, but the teachers in Korea were also incredulous constantly while the ones in China aren't so I dunno. For all the staring and poo poo, people here seem to be much more willing to accept you as a human being with a functional brain once they've spent some time with you. All the Koreans I'm actually friends with are like that but they were a small minority.

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry
A friend of mine worked as a sysadmin in a research center at a university in the US. They got a new postdoc one day, a white guy who happened to speak Chinese. He said that the first thing out of every group of two or more Chinese guys' mouths in the new guy's presence was "careful, the white guy speaks Chinese."

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry
Also in more recent news the Chinese postdoc in another lab that's collaborating with us apparently ran off back to China with all of the supplies we purchased for the project and a copy of whatever data and notes he had.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Ahahaha if he accepts this he is literally dumber than a bag of poo poo

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Murray Mantoinette posted:

Also in more recent news the Chinese postdoc in another lab that's collaborating with us apparently ran off back to China with all of the supplies we purchased for the project and a copy of whatever data and notes he had.

chinas ascent to scientific superpower lookin good

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