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Pyroclastic posted:Space Police 3, from just a few years ago. Every cop was a human (or a robot, since they at least had that robodog), every criminal was an alien. Cool-looking aliens, but it was still incredibly speciest in a universe that clearly had a dozen or so intelligent species inhabiting it. If it's not Seriously, I would pay so much moneys for Blacktron 3.
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I don't know why they don't bother to resurrect classic themes. Seems like it would have just as much appeal to kids as the current ones and olds would go nuts for it.
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Apr 7, 2017 08:11
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veni veni veni posted:I don't know why they don't bother to resurrect classic themes. Seems like it would have just as much appeal to kids as the current ones and olds would go nuts for it. I would love to see more TRANSPARENT NEON ORANGE CHAINSAWS
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Apr 7, 2017 08:31
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They should do a classic space theme that encompasses all of the previous ones. Just label it "space" and do a few 80's Space, M-tron,Blacktron,Ice planet etc sets within the same theme, except done with the more modern style of building. It would be amazing. I bet it would sell insanely well.
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Apr 7, 2017 08:43
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There's still that rumour about the clause in the star wars license forbidding any other fictional spacecraft. Seems like that may be true.
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Apr 7, 2017 08:57
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Hopper posted:There's still that rumour about the clause in the star wars license forbidding any other fictional spacecraft. Seems like that may be true. Space Police III ran concurrently with Star Wars and it had plenty of spaceships.
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Apr 7, 2017 09:02
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Need space monorail reboot soooooo bad.
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Apr 7, 2017 09:32
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Benny's spaceship
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Apr 7, 2017 09:39
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veni veni veni posted:They should do a classic space theme that encompasses all of the previous ones. Just label it "space" and do a few 80's Space, M-tron,Blacktron,Ice planet etc sets within the same theme, except done with the more modern style of building. It would be amazing. I bet it would sell insanely well. I wonder how well it would do. Insanely well among adults, sure, but how would it stack up among kids? Or parents? I legitimately don't know. Some of my favourite lines as a kid were Rock Raiders and Life On Mars, both space themes with nothing more hostile than native wildlife. Putting conflict in all the sets seems to have done Lego well but would it actually outshine lines without?
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Apr 7, 2017 10:32
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Tenebrais posted:I wonder how well it would do. Insanely well among adults, sure, but how would it stack up among kids? Or parents? The Rock Raiders were an amazing theme, iirc it was one of the first forays into making "characters" and not just generic dudes in the sets. It also had an amazing set which basically gave you all the figures and their rad new hats and tools. Can you imagine Lego doing that today? They have got much more savvy and drip feed you characters with the best ones in the most expensive sets. A good business choice for sure, but annoying. I think I had 2x of these, probably as birthday presents and I loved all these guys, especially sassy orange dude with his googles. 
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Apr 7, 2017 10:49
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Rock raiders was a loving travesty what are you on Rock raiders and insectoids were the height of awful bullshit that nearly led to the death of the company as a whole. Gigantic, awkward parts that made doing custom stuff yourself basically worthless were everywhere. The chrone drill bits were neat but that was it.  Seriously that was the era of giant awful parts that had next to no use outside of the actual set.
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Apr 7, 2017 13:08
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Captain Invictus posted:Rock raiders was a loving travesty what are you on Pretty much all of the bits in that picture there I loved as a child and I made loads of "tanks" using that vehicle base. I also really like the Insectoids too! It also isn't like Lego still aren't making a bunch of stupidly niche molded parts that have almost no use out of that one set. I bet you can find loads of examples of MOCs that use the parts you pictured above. They might have been a lovely business decision to make so many molds, but that doesn't matter to a 10 year old... The sets that I thought were really really poo poo were the "Kingdoms" Castle line with the purple helmet knights and also the "Jack Stone" line of sets. They were totally garbage.
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Apr 7, 2017 13:22
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I'm not saying they're not useful, but when your set is comprised of 50% of those sorts of pieces, it makes making anything with them really terrible(this was a large contributing factor to the downfall of lego in the 90s, especially city stuff). I remember getting some medium sized insectoids sets because I like bugs and only had those for a few weeks on a trip, and making anything using them was terrible. Sure the parts CAN be used, but stuff like the big bug wings and legs or the excavator buckets from rock raiders, the cockpit, etc are so gigantic and niche that making anything with them was difficult at best, and they stuck out like a sore thumb because they're gigantic single pieces rather than made up of smaller parts.
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Apr 7, 2017 13:28
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It is a lot different now, I was remaking some of my old sets recently as my parents bought it all down for me when we moved house. Something like the Ice Sat V or Allied Avenger today would have so many more tiny pieces.   IceSatV has 135 pieces and takes about 10 mins to put together. Apparently it was $15, or $23 adjusted for inflation. People would balk at that today for sure. Similar with the Allied Avenger which is 100 pieces for $20 (todays money). Something I have never seen analysed, though I am sure it has, is the actual amount of plastic per $. Has that been constant? It seems to me that todays sets have this 10p per part price point (more or less), but many of these parts are tiny cheese slopes or such like. Even though your chrome crusher had a dock off canopy and vehicle base, it still looks as substantial as something at a similar price point today.
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Apr 7, 2017 13:45
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mitochondritom posted:The Rock Raiders were an amazing theme, iirc it was one of the first forays into making "characters" and not just generic dudes in the sets. It also had an amazing set which basically gave you all the figures and their rad new hats and tools. Can you imagine Lego doing that today? They have got much more savvy and drip feed you characters with the best ones in the most expensive sets. A good business choice for sure, but annoying. I think I had 2x of these, probably as birthday presents and I loved all these guys, especially sassy orange dude with his googles. I never had any of the sets but I did play the Rock Raiders game for PC when I was a kid and I remember it being frustratingly difficult. The only thing remotely notable about it was that the CD jewel case had studs on the spine which was kind of cool (Shown here on a copy of LEGO LOCO which was a way better and more enjoyable game despite being a direction-less sandbox) 
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Apr 7, 2017 14:35
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Space police yellows vs aliens wasn't the first time Lego did something very creepy. The Mars sets also had a 'Lets abduct the Martian natives and perform brutal experiments on them' vibe to it.
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Apr 7, 2017 14:42
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Another teaser image from the Saturn V set: https://twitter.com/LEGO_Group/status/850335821328777216 Release date has been confirmed as June 1st.
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Apr 7, 2017 15:07
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That seems to imply a lander
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Apr 7, 2017 15:08
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Apr 7, 2017 15:15
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Cloks posted:All this space talk made me buy a few Galaxy Squad sets. That and Monster Fighters are my favorite recent original themes. Alien Conquest was pretty rad imo. Really neat combination of Classic Space and newer molds/techniques. Hell, the Alien Tripod was the thing that brought me out of my Dark Age. edit: Also yes Galaxy Squad and Monster Hunters both rule. Whoever was in charge of those should have gotten a raise.
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Apr 7, 2017 15:22
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mitochondritom posted:It is a lot different now, I was remaking some of my old sets recently as my parents bought it all down for me when we moved house. Something like the Ice Sat V or Allied Avenger today would have so many more tiny pieces. I had this rocket truck and the main base. The Ice Planet stuff was so bad rear end. I'd collect the whole set should they redo it.
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Apr 7, 2017 16:21
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Hopper posted:There's still that rumour about the clause in the star wars license forbidding any other fictional spacecraft. Seems like that may be true. Galaxy Squad had an emphasis on terrestrial vehicles but some of them looked awfully spaceship-like. And not all of the classic space themes had a big emphasis on spaceships to begin with (looking at you, Ice Planet.)
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Straight White Shark posted:Galaxy Squad had an emphasis on terrestrial vehicles but some of them looked awfully spaceship-like. And not all of the classic space themes had a big emphasis on spaceships to begin with (looking at you, Ice Planet.) Spyrius had a pretty cool robot/mech subtheme and I'd love to see their current crop of mech designers do something with it.
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I don't really like the conflict elements much, and my kinds don't seem super interested in them either. They would much rather build things or set up narratives around the lego creations having their own building/tasks to do than about fighting/killing/busting stuff up. Fortunately even if its present in the kits it's simple to ignore, at least for now. Maybe it will get harder as they get older and consume more media that may who now it is 'supposed' to be used. When I was a kid I had a moonbase set that included two cratered base plates, and you built a little base that had a room with tinted windows, a launch pad for a little flying rover thing, and a rail that a rocket slide out on to launch. It was amazing to me, not least because the smooth planks that made up the rocket rail were basically the only flat-topped lego bits we had ever had/seen. I am sure my son would love that thing if we could get it today. It was apparently Set 6971, Intergalactic Command Base
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Apr 7, 2017 17:00
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Ashcans posted:
Yes to more big space bases.
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Apr 7, 2017 17:08
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How about the big blue classic space robot base thing. Horrible build, designer must have been baked out of their mind. Engines for feet? Canopy ears? Pure insanity, yet somehow it was laser focused on the heart of every kid and it was THE set to get. A robot you can put your dudes inside? loving awesome!
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Apr 7, 2017 17:14
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Holy crap all those minfigures, wonder what kind of offers this guy is going to get. https://newhaven.craigslist.org/tag/6066871201.html
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mitochondritom posted:Something I have never seen analysed, though I am sure it has, is the actual amount of plastic per $. Has that been constant? It seems to me that todays sets have this 10p per part price point (more or less), but many of these parts are tiny cheese slopes or such like. Even though your chrome crusher had a dock off canopy and vehicle base, it still looks as substantial as something at a similar price point today. I wouldn't be surprised if the cost per part was essentially flat. Plastic is cheap.
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tomapot posted:Holy crap all those minfigures, wonder what kind of offers this guy is going to get. Honestly, probably not as much as you'd think. This was obviously a pile of figs from a guy who was trying to make a killing on BL/CL/Kijiji and didn't, and now he's trying to dump them all on someone else who thinks they can pull off a profit. For example, who's going to want that many EP1-3 figs? Aside from the battle droids that entire line may as well go straight into the bulk bin.
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Wax Dynasty posted:Another teaser image from the Saturn V set: yesssssss
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Apr 7, 2017 19:17
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EvilJoven posted:Honestly, probably not as much as you'd think. This was obviously a pile of figs from a guy who was trying to make a killing on BL/CL/Kijiji and didn't, and now he's trying to dump them all on someone else who thinks they can pull off a profit. For example, who's going to want that many EP1-3 figs? Aside from the battle droids that entire line may as well go straight into the bulk bin. There are 3 boxes of CMFs, that's probably 80-90% of the value of the whole lot right there.
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Wax Dynasty posted:Another teaser image from the Saturn V set: I'm not going to buy the whole set, but I'll Bricklink the parts for the LEM for sure.
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Apr 7, 2017 19:56
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They made a few NASA sets way back in 2003 including one with a micro lunar lander, and a minifig scale lunar lander. https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?v=2&pg=1&catString=482&catType=S
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Wax Dynasty posted:Another teaser image from the Saturn V set: Wonderful. This goes to the top of my birthday list.
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Tenebrais posted:I wonder how well it would do. Insanely well among adults, sure, but how would it stack up among kids? Or parents? I don't see why kids wouldn't like it. Just modernize the themes and they are inherently cool as anything they are doing now. My feelings are that it would have plenty of kid appeal and adults would be all over it.
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Apr 8, 2017 00:17
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I thought I read the pirate and castle remakes did poorly. I just started back, so I missed my nostalgia chance. Honestly, the later sets like ice patrol that I didn't grow up with hold no appeal. It may be harder to get enough adult interest from their own old properties
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Apr 8, 2017 00:55
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TacoNight posted:Honestly, the later sets like ice patrol that I didn't grow up with hold no appeal. If you're tired of transparent orange chainsaws, you're tired of life 
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Apr 8, 2017 01:05
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TacoNight posted:Honestly, the later sets like ice patrol that I didn't grow up with hold no appeal. Yeah I think people here grossly overestimate the universal appeal of the poo poo from their childhoods. Aside from the monorails I never really saw the appeal in classic space, and I expect kids today would feel the same about stuff like Orient Expedition and Exo-Force that I grew up with. It's all just nostalgia.
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smackfu posted:They made a few NASA sets way back in 2003 including one with a micro lunar lander, and a minifig scale lunar lander. That big shuttle was fantastic. I had that thing on display until the stickers fell off. Always wanted the LEM.
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