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Kat is getting too many minutes on a team with 3 nba-caliber centers on the roster. Wiggins is basically the only real 3 I think?
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Apr 8, 2017 12:37
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KAT is 21 years old, I'm sure he can handle 36 MPG just fine. The slightly increased chance of an injury playing a few more minutes than a hypothetical optimal amount is worth it so that the best young player in the league can get more experience and help his young team develop. Plus, who are the "3 NBA caliber centers" on their roster? Cole Aldrich (big white stiff), Nikola Pekovic (always injured), and Jordan Hill (who?)?
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Apr 8, 2017 12:47
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Tae posted:Kat is getting too many minutes on a team with 3 nba-caliber centers on the roster. Wiggins is basically the only real 3 I think? And he should be playing the 2. No one knows what position Shabazz plays, but SF is probably the closest. He also needs help defending any lineup. Are you counting Aldridge as an NBA player? He's been pretty bad. I know his advanced stats look OK, but he isn't getting minutes because he frequently does nothing on the floor. The Wolves only have 1 rotation PF in Bjelica and he gets bullyed down low, so they are short on bigs too.
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Apr 8, 2017 12:50
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Kat is a center, Gorgui Deng is a center, Cole Aldrich is a very good defensive back-up C. The problem is that Thibs is very much set in starting two bigs in the modern NBA and even more so after bjelica went down. You start two bigs if you get something out of it defensively like Utah, but the Wolves are bad defensively even with that. Of course, I'm the crazy person that would rather see Shabazz at the back-up 4 than being a back-up 3 because if you're going to be bad defensively, at least make your offense nigh-unstoppable.
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Apr 8, 2017 12:51
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I'm not sure you do that with a young team like this, especially as Wiggins SHOULD be a really great defender alongside KAT. Their big situation is weird right now, but if you can find your stretch-4 you can also slide Wiggins to the 4 like a super-Barnes and then you are set. Wolves desperately need a 3 who can shoot and defend. My kingdom for Tony Snell.
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Apr 8, 2017 13:03
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The more likely is a 2 year deal with an old guy like James Johnson or PJ Tucker, which is fine because you want short deal vets that expire when Kat's extension comes up. There just isn't a lot of two way players in this upcoming free agency that are UFA's.
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Apr 8, 2017 13:09
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Tae posted:Kat is a center, Gorgui Deng is a center, Cole Aldrich is a very good defensive back-up C. The problem is that Thibs is very much set in starting two bigs in the modern NBA and even more so after bjelica went down. Aldrich is a little better than I gave him credit for, but he's a nothing on offense, and he's not exactly an iron man (never played more than 61 games in a season). He won the genetic lottery and uses his size to be effective on defense, but he's the textbook definition of a journeyman big white stiff - he's pretty OK at being that, but you don't generally do well as a franchise if you play a guy like that more minutes over a 21yr old putting up Shaq type numbers. As you said yourself, if they're going to be bad defensively anyway, why play a guy like Aldrich more? He's not good enough defensively to move the meter for them on that end, and he might as well not exist on the offensive end. Deng is a center, sure, but he's exactly an average player. Unfortunately for Minny, he's the only other big man they have that's competent. In that case, you kinda have to find a way to play him and your superstar C together as much as possible.
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Apr 8, 2017 13:11
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Cole's advanced stats are a mirage, he gets no minutes for a reason. He's been pretty bad. Dieng is a starter-level player, and does a lot of the defensive heavy lifting right now. Wolves just need more players.
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Apr 8, 2017 13:26
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Dieng has looked like an unremarkable backup big, at best, every time I've seen him. If he is your worst starter, maybe you can get away with playing him the minutes he gets. He has to play, though, because the other bigs on the team are much worse.
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Apr 8, 2017 13:30
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I like to use Pelican comparisons because they are what I know best and Dieng is like Jason Smith. Can start in a pinch and be OK, but you really don't want him playing more than 20 mpg unless you have no other choice.
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Apr 8, 2017 13:34
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Nah, he's better than that. He is a good defender, pulls down offensive boards, and is an efficient scorer who also scores in the midrange. His advanced stats are generally much better than Jason Smith, so while Dieng is a low usage player in that mold he is a step or two above. He won't be an all-star or anything, but he could absolutely play heavy minutes on a playoff team. I mean, we've seen bigs like Thompson, Speights, hurt-bogut all get big minutes in the finals. You don't need to have a high usage to bring a lot of value there.
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Apr 8, 2017 13:43
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Yeah Dieng is a solid player, he rebounds, has an 18 foot jump shot and defends well in the post. I think whether you'd rather have Tristan Thompson depends on matchup - against the Warriors TT is the better pick because he can switch and play on the perimeter easier but against Utah or the Spurs for example I'd rather have Dieng.
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Apr 8, 2017 14:02
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Punkin Spunkin posted:LaVar Ball is the man https://twitter.com/ReutersBiz/status/850317898711257089 haha i love to war profiteer in the NBA threads
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Apr 8, 2017 14:57
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Russell was padding his stats, as usual. Passing to teammates so they can score? Yeah, right. You're not fooling me, Russ. 3rd Team All-NBA for you.
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Apr 8, 2017 15:49
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Rick posted:Glad she's okay! I feel like there has to be some other ATL SA person who should've gone in your stead, they're the failure.. I've been away, but I can't imagine the Hawks getting another fan since the time hotlanta man was the only one.
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Apr 8, 2017 16:16
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bobby that man is the franchise http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017/4/8/15229762/nba-video-bulls-jimmy-butler-bobby-portis-hard-high-fives-again
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Apr 8, 2017 16:49
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"Sources told ESPN.com that the Mavericks intend to have Romo on the bench and in uniform for their final regular-season home date against the Denver Nuggets as a means of paying tribute to the longtime former Cowboy." http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19110509/dallas-mavericks-honor-tony-romo-home-finale-maverick-day This suddenly became a better game to go to.
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Spacebump posted:"Sources told ESPN.com that the Mavericks intend to have Romo on the bench and in uniform for their final regular-season home date against the Denver Nuggets as a means of paying tribute to the longtime former Cowboy." game is gonna end with denver getting a steal for a game winning fast break
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Apr 8, 2017 18:39
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Hope it's a blowout one way or the other and Romo gets some game time.
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Apr 8, 2017 19:16
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Next level tanking is replacing your whole roster with retired local sport legends Nobody would boo
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Apr 8, 2017 19:26
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A meaningless late season Mavs game would be a lot more fun to watch if there was a potential Romo check in
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Apr 8, 2017 19:49
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i never realized how much i wanted to see tony romo get dunked on
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Apr 8, 2017 19:52
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Crazy Ted posted:So, I haven't considered - until tonight - the fact that a team that occasionally starts Joe Ingles is going to make the NBA Playoffs. He's fourth on the team in Win Shares! : (
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Apr 8, 2017 20:15
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Actually Jingles owns.
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Cool Buff Man posted:Next level tanking is replacing your whole roster with retired local sport legends Next next level tanking is replacing your whole front office with retired local sports legends
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The Glumslinger posted:Next next level tanking is replacing your whole front office with retired local sports legends Hahah, although the Lakers have won 3 in a row so they clearly haven't gone far enough. Bring on Smush Parker
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Apr 8, 2017 20:48
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Let Magic coach the remainder of the season.
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Cool Buff Man posted:Next level tanking is replacing your whole roster with retired local sport legends Kings legit could field a small ball starting 5 based on who's in and around the team: Bobby Jackson (TV) Doug Christie (TV) Mitch Richmond (minority owner) Peja (FO) Vlade (FO)
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The Glumslinger posted:Next next level tanking is replacing your whole front office with retired local sports legends This tanking isn't going well enough 
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Spoeank posted:Kings legit could field a small ball starting 5 based on who's in and around the team: Isn't Shaq a minority owner or am I totally brainfarting
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Spoeank posted:Kings legit could field a small ball starting 5 based on who's in and around the team: Seriously who would boo them
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Apr 8, 2017 20:57
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r/Lakers is in chaos right now. It's beautiful.
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Apr 8, 2017 21:03
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BobHoward posted:Isn't Shaq a minority owner or am I totally brainfarting He is but I'm pretty sure Sacramento wouldn't embrace Shaq as a local legend
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Spoeank posted:He is but I'm pretty sure Sacramento wouldn't embrace Shaq as a local legend It would be entertaining to watch the fireworks though Shaq would totally be up for it too. Listened to one of Amin El-Hassan's podcasts where he got to talking about Shaq's support for flat worldism and apparently there is precisely zero percent chance that was anything other than a troll, because Shaq loving loves trolling people hard.
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Apr 8, 2017 21:24
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Redgrendel2001 posted:r/Lakers is in chaos right now. the mighty lakers, reduced to building through the draft like peons
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Ramona Shelburne 11-14-2014 posted:They can’t [tank]. This is Los Angeles, Bill. The Lakers have missed the playoffs six times in their entire history. Since Jerry Buss bought the team, they missed it once. 1993-94 and they missed it last year, and they’re going to miss it again this year. You can’t do this in Los Angeles. This is Hollywood. When you are not relevant, when you are not in the game, people just forget about you. It doesn’t matter if they win a championship, [the Lakers] would rather be 8th and at least have their fans engaged in this season, at least have them watching the games….they have to be relevant. They can not not be relevant.
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Apr 8, 2017 22:04
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chunkles posted:the mighty lakers, reduced to building through the draft like peons That is the core is that fans don't know what it's like to do this and it is causing reactions of all sorts that were funny at first but are just straight up too gross to see. I think a hyper pro tank fan is going to like try and Nancy Kerrigan Ingram soon. Not joking.
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Apr 8, 2017 22:34
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Shaq is a minority owner but I'm pretty sure he's one of the minority owners that hates Vivek and is trying to undermine him so he's been relegated from his figure head publicity role
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WhyteRyce posted:Shaq is a minority owner but I'm pretty sure he's one of the minority owners that hates Vivek and is trying to undermine him so he's been relegated from his figure head publicity role Shaq doesn't want to spread himself too thin and dilute his brand between the kings on top of krispy kreme and his overwatch team.
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quote:With starting point guard Seth Curry ailing in recent days and officially out for the rest of the season because of a shoulder ailment, Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has said on multiple occasions over the past week that the club would be looking to add "a pass-first point guard" before playing out the season's final five days. Yessssss
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