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Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




I really hope the theme park has a fun house with actual working mirrors. I want to shoot at someone and it turns out to just be a mirror.

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Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
I hope it's a Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6 theme park.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


https://i.redd.it/zxghewwc8zpy.gif

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

:allears: they should have sent a poet

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
More leaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDop8HsF6_A

Caltrop's in-data-file ability is called "mine" and appears to be a deployable, not a throwable. There's also a "cloak" state and a "toxin mine".

Dazzler's ability is called "blind spot" and appears to be a flashing strobe grenade. Which begs the question, how do they differ from flashbangs? I'm guessing they give the Echo disorientation effect, so they last longer than flashbangs effectively.

Also looks like we're getting a Chinese bullpup rifle and a bullpup smg for the new ops.

And maybe 'cluster mine' and 'concussion mine' as generic gadgets / equipment available to multiple operators?? (Different from Caltrop's special mine)

E: What if Dazzler's ability is more like a deployable that kills all nearby cameras? Or maybe makes Mira's shield opaque?

E2: And if Caltrop is able to make his mines "cloak" it may be more reason to take I.Q. so you can detect them easier? That'd be cool but would feel like just making Kapkan and Frost irrelevant.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Apr 8, 2017

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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Echo's drone can already cloak and we already have a predator mask on IQ but lol if they ever add a camouflage based operator I'll live inside this game.

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Please please please let this be a return to Splinter Cell's multiplayer where Mercs could put down a toxic mine which would slowly kill you until you went over to your buddy to have it healed. Would be awesome although probably unlikely.

Also makes me miss shooting the mic rounds on Merc's as a Spy and listening in on their voice comms (original xbox so no party chat or 3rd party software here)


gently caress it, Hard please just make Ubisoft bring back old school Spy's vs Mercs in the next Splinter Cell game, i know they are making one eventually.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

Please please please let this be a return to Splinter Cell's multiplayer where Mercs could put down a toxic mine which would slowly kill you until you went over to your buddy to have it healed. Would be awesome although probably unlikely.

Also makes me miss shooting the mic rounds on Merc's as a Spy and listening in on their voice comms (original xbox so no party chat or 3rd party software here)


gently caress it, Hard please just make Ubisoft bring back old school Spy's vs Mercs in the next Splinter Cell game, i know they are making one eventually.

Merc vs Spy multiplayer was so loving good, too good for this world it seems :rip: Why they made a bunch of lovely single player splinter cell games after that instead of just making an awesome multiplayer game I'll never understand.

Gr4vyB04t
Jan 31, 2010

Hey gurl, hey.

Hard posted:

With the amount of ideas you guys are throwing in this thread, there's bound to be some of you who are not so far fetched from what's actually happening.

Is it me Hard? Am I right? I know I'm right!

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Zaphod42 posted:

Merc vs Spy multiplayer was so loving good, too good for this world it seems :rip: Why they made a bunch of lovely single player splinter cell games after that instead of just making an awesome multiplayer game I'll never understand.

Blacklist is really good though despite the lovely multiplayer thrown in. Although their 2v2 "classic" playlist that made the maps darker was a step in the right direction.

Gr4vyB04t
Jan 31, 2010

Hey gurl, hey.

Zaphod42 posted:

Merc vs Spy multiplayer was so loving good, too good for this world it seems :rip: Why they made a bunch of lovely single player splinter cell games after that instead of just making an awesome multiplayer game I'll never understand.

Hard, just skip making a new Splinter Cell and do a "Without Remorse" game. Half of it could be Jack Ryan stalking around urban areas killing those bad dudes that wronged his woman and the other half could be flash backs when he was doing dirt in the jungle.

Spy Vs. Merc would be perfect for this game. Half of the maps set in a thick jungle and half the maps in an urban jungle. Get to work.

Paradigmata
Dec 23, 2015

Dissolved
Still having hope the map will be like Oregon or Club House and not another square with 2-3 stairs.

Gr4vyB04t
Jan 31, 2010

Hey gurl, hey.

Paradigmata posted:

Still having hope the map will be like Oregon or Club House and not another square with 2-3 stairs.

As long as they don't use the same effects that they used on Yacht and Favela. Whatever is going down on those maps it kills my FPS.

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers

AnElegantPeacock posted:

Hard, just skip making a new Splinter Cell and do a "Without Remorse" game. Half of it could be Jack Ryan stalking around urban areas killing those bad dudes that wronged his woman and the other half could be flash backs when he was doing dirt in the jungle.

yes please

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

AnElegantPeacock posted:

As long as they don't use the same effects that they used on Yacht and Favela. Whatever is going down on those maps it kills my FPS.

Favela it's probably the fireworks at night.

If there's a new map the staircases need to be able to be called out easily, Yacht is sort of hell for that since there's literally 6 separate staircases (Lounge->kitchen hallway, Casino->kitchen, Lounge stairs->maps, control center->engine, control hallway-> underneath control, and the big staircase by bedroom)

Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Apr 8, 2017

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

Never felt at home in reality
Always hiding behind avatars


AnElegantPeacock posted:

Hard, just skip making a new Splinter Cell and do a "Without Remorse" game. Half of it could be Jack Ryan stalking around urban areas killing those bad dudes that wronged his woman and the other half could be flash backs when he was doing dirt in the jungle.

I think you mean john clark but that would be amazing especially if there was a level or two you spent as a homeless man drunk on wine

Gr4vyB04t
Jan 31, 2010

Hey gurl, hey.

Tythas posted:

I think you mean john clark but that would be amazing especially if there was a level or two you spent as a homeless man drunk on wine

Whatever. They are basically the same dude.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://streamable.com/ssl0b

DENIED

https://streamable.com/50jsq

Would love it if your outlines turned off when you ADS'd. Literally could not see that guy.

Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Apr 8, 2017

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011



Oh man, keep going, I'm almost there.

Nickname Pending
Jan 2, 2008

I learned how to play beer pong from the Prince of Uganda at a university party.
I was really hoping the Hong Kong map would be a seedy marketplace w/back alleys, or one of those tall corporate skyscrapers (not like the one we already have).

causticBeet
Mar 2, 2010

BIG VINCE COMIN FOR YOU
Both of those "leaked ops" sound dope as gently caress and very fun to play. Some sort of barbed wire on steroids would be great, and more utility grenades are sweet.

I hope the fancy flash grenade op blinds Glaz forever and crashes the game of whoever picked him, this is an acceptable counter.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

gently caress it, Hard please just make Ubisoft bring back old school Spy's vs Mercs in the next Splinter Cell game, i know they are making one eventually.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Party Plane Jones posted:

Would love it if your outlines turned off when you ADS'd. Literally could not see that guy.

Yeah that's a fair complaint. Even just hide outlines for the people directly downscope. People on your periphery can still be outlined.

Nickname Pending posted:

I was really hoping the Hong Kong map would be a seedy marketplace w/back alleys, or one of those tall corporate skyscrapers (not like the one we already have).

Kowloon would have been loving amazing





Its a Judge Dredd megacity in real life. Would play out just like The Raid: Redemption or Dredd (2012)

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Apr 8, 2017

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
I wasn't gonna be this pedantic rear end but it's come up this way like 5 times now in the thread so. It's Kowloon Walled City. "Kowloon" is a major region in Hong Kong with millions of people in it, saying you want a Kowloon map could mean you want a marketplace or skyscraper or stadium or restaurant or anything a normal city would have.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


It was bugging me too. :(

Zaphod42 posted:

Merc vs Spy multiplayer was so loving good, too good for this world it seems :rip: Why they made a bunch of lovely single player splinter cell games after that instead of just making an awesome multiplayer game I'll never understand.
The merc vs spy back in the day was so amazing, but I never tried any of the others after that, did they ever return to how good it used to be?

Also are the new operator names placeholders? Dazzler and Caltrop sound crap

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
If neither of them have dual wield Berettas I'll probably stop playing the game.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Koramei posted:

I wasn't gonna be this pedantic rear end but it's come up this way like 5 times now in the thread so. It's Kowloon Walled City. "Kowloon" is a major region in Hong Kong with millions of people in it, saying you want a Kowloon map could mean you want a marketplace or skyscraper or stadium or restaurant or anything a normal city would have.

That's like saying you want a New York map when you're talking about New York City.

OH DEAR :ohdear: what a terrible blunder! How dare people shorten things! Context like pictures is clearly not allowed.

ITS CALLED NEW YORK CITY HELLO

E: Or saying New York City when you mean Manhattan! Or saying Manhattan when you mean Times Square!!! Where does it end?!

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Apr 8, 2017

Fresh Shesh Besh
May 15, 2013

A Kawloon map would be pretty cool.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


https://gfycat.com/EvergreenComplicatedJavalina

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

New operator:



That's amazing.

Nickname Pending
Jan 2, 2008

I learned how to play beer pong from the Prince of Uganda at a university party.
Anyone else been having issues with the game today? I am getting tons of server disconnects and errors every other match. Happens from time to time, but never this bad.

lohli
Jun 30, 2008
Lots of that over here, too, party getting split up a lot as well.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010





You can see Doc's gun on the stairs as well. Unless that is also Pulse.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:

A Kawloon map would be pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZuhYJynSk8

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Caltrop's gadget button empties a bucket full of Legos on the floor. When an operator on the other team walks through it, they're slowed and loudly exclaim, "Ow, gently caress! Who left these Legos here?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDF8OQcr1c

lol because home alone of all things is chock full of potential operator abilities, from floor traps to blowtorch twipwires and cutting repelling lines with giant scissors

@hard please pass out DVDs to the devs for inspiration

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Thief posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZuhYJynSk8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDF8OQcr1c

lol because home alone of all things is chock full of potential operator abilities, from floor traps to blowtorch twipwires and cutting repelling lines with giant scissors

@hard please pass out DVDs to the devs for inspiration
They will add the kid from the movies and call him Invoker. :razz:

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

gently caress now I just want a Hard Boiled Hospital level

New Operator: Tequila, special ability- can do a crazy dive move while shooting, also can equip 2 pistols at the same time

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Apr 8, 2017

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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Even though a lot of people hate the CoD "akimbo" stuff and it doesn't really fit in the Rainbow 6 style of tactic00l, an operator that can equip 2 pistols is something that hasn't happened yet. The Spanish operators can double up on shotgun which is a cool option even if it isn't the best if you're playing seriously.

Toggle-on both ability with shieldlike accuracy would be awesome. Give them a bunch of unique pistols with different firerates and you'll see something like in Max Payne games where you are shooting a revolver and a high capacity/firerate pistol in your other hand.

A diving ability would probably be considered too overpowered or a nightmare for animation. But something like the "swoop" move (quickly dashing a few feet in whatever direction) from the latest worst Thief game would be a cool way to cross over doors - just put a huge cooldown on it? It'd be a direct counter to shield players and it would let you have better chances of escaping from corners where they have you pinned while waiting for you to peek or bail. Though I think regardless of the cooldown, an ability like this would piss people off about as much as Glazvision.

I personally would like to see a greater focus on operator abilities that don't do direct damage. People have a lot of fun with the "bad" operators even though certain cyber athletes get upset about game balance across the board. Pretty much everyone can handle themselves because everyone except Blitz gets generous loadout options when it comes to guns.

IDK how they plan on adding so many more characters to the game but I hope they keep leaning towards quirky stuff even if its only situational rather than trying to make every operator Ding Chavez.

Thief fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Apr 8, 2017

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.

Zaphod42 posted:

That's like saying you want a New York map when you're talking about New York City.

OH DEAR :ohdear: what a terrible blunder! How dare people shorten things! Context like pictures is clearly not allowed.

ITS CALLED NEW YORK CITY HELLO

E: Or saying New York City when you mean Manhattan! Or saying Manhattan when you mean Times Square!!! Where does it end?!

Your last example is pretty accurate. You don't see how that's weird? Or saying you want a Manhattan map when you actually mean you want a map of Billy's Topless Bar on 24th Street. There's a lot more to Kowloon than the walled city.

Koramei fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Apr 9, 2017

SMP
May 5, 2009

Koramei posted:

Or saying you want a Manhattan map when you actually mean you want a map of Billy's Topless Bar on 24th Street.

Yes

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Nickname Pending
Jan 2, 2008

I learned how to play beer pong from the Prince of Uganda at a university party.
There should be an operator who places a torch on a door that trigger when an enemy walks through, helping to create area denial for a few seconds. His name will be Torch.

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