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Guy Mann posted:When did the Mangosteen thing happen? I was under the impression that it was something that happened in the earliest days of the forum but Lowtax is still grousing about it in yesterday's Xenforo announcement.
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Apr 7, 2017 21:27
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Catberry posted:Pepe is tainted forever. Trying to salvage him will be as fruitless as the whole "Tibetan sun cross" thing. But loads of tourist maps for east asian countries use swastikas as a legend for Buddhist temples and that goes pretty well, especially because the Nazi version is tilted.
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Apr 7, 2017 23:38
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Mister Olympus posted:But loads of tourist maps for east asian countries use swastikas as a legend for Buddhist temples and that goes pretty well, especially because the Nazi version is tilted. The Nazi swastika is also always right-facing. Buddhism seems to know both a left-facing and a right-facing variant, each with different meanings. Also: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...zi-symbols.html Hollow Talk has a new favorite as of 00:28 on Apr 8, 2017 |
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Apr 8, 2017 00:26
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Point is, you can't take it back.
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Apr 8, 2017 00:39
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It's not that it was used by Nazis. It's that it is used by Nazis. No one is saying to remove it from ancient temples. But maybe your maps and other modern poo poo doesn't need to include it. It's especially uncomfortable to defend the Swastika as a former axis power.
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I had to pick out Hindu wedding cards online a couple years back, and every other one had a loving swastika on it. We gave the kids coloring pages during the wedding, and I had to photoshop out a swastika on Ganesh's forehead. And then I showed up to the ceremony and--swear to god--someone had drawn a swastika on a sticky note and put it on the offering plate because god forbid we not have one at the wedding. What I'm saying is, I'm blown away at how much it's just not a thing outside of axis/ally countries. But this is spot on: syscall girl posted:Point is, you can't take it back.
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Apr 8, 2017 17:48
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this is the right thread to say I'm stunned that someone STILL has an "I'm Butt Wizard" avatar
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Apr 8, 2017 17:51
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Hey now, other people had frogs, but I was the only butt wizard.  Besides Butt Wizard, of course.
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Apr 8, 2017 17:55
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Hemingway To Go! posted:this is the right thread to say I'm stunned that someone STILL has an "I'm Butt Wizard" avatar Story time. 
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Apr 8, 2017 22:44
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Zesty Crab Legs posted:It's not that it was used by Nazis. It's that it is used by Nazis. The religious understanding and traditional cultural usage of the symbol in east asia outweighs its recent Western connotations so thoroughly that it's not really a big deal at all  There were some fin-de-siecle houses in the neighborhood where I grew up in the midwest that had brickwork swastika ornamentation that always slightly perplexed me, though. Too early to be Nazi for sure but I have some real difficulty imagining it as a place cosmopolitan enough to have indulged in orientalism.
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Apr 9, 2017 00:02
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HookedOnChthonics posted:The religious understanding and traditional cultural usage of the symbol in east asia outweighs its recent Western connotations so thoroughly that it's not really a big deal at all The Holocaust is still within living memory and Neo-Nazi groups continue to use the swastika as their symbol of choice.
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Apr 9, 2017 00:32
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Oh, trust me, I'm not one to downplay the holocaust, I just mean that there's thousands of years of preceding cultural prominence present in the cultural context of that part of the world prior to that which is absent from the Western perspective. We inevitably encounter the Nazi usage first and learn about the origin of the shape later, as essentially a footnote; for people educated in that culture it's the reverse, so it's just kind of silly to even conceptualize it as something that could or would be phased out the way the post I quoted seemed to suggest. I mean, it's not like anyone's getting confused; the two connotations are... pretty discernible extremes 
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Apr 9, 2017 00:56
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HookedOnChthonics posted:I mean, it's not like anyone's getting confused; the two connotations are... pretty discernible extremes There's probably some crossover, Nazi-chic is pretty fashionable in some parts of Asia.
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Apr 9, 2017 06:11
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"The Southern Cross is just a symbol of states rights"
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Apr 9, 2017 07:09
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Guess where this is: It's the big entrance gate of the Carlsberg brewery, in Copenhagen. It's been there for ages and it doesn't seem like they're going to destroy that gate any time soon.
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Apr 9, 2017 08:20
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Catberry posted:"The Southern Cross is just a symbol of states rights" Those states being Australia, Brazil, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea and Samoa? :thatsthejoke: - of course Australia has no rights.
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Oh, trust me, I'm not one to downplay the holocaust, I just mean that there's thousands of years of preceding cultural prominence present in the cultural context of that part of the world prior to that which is absent from the Western perspective. We inevitably encounter the Nazi usage first and learn about the origin of the shape later, as essentially a footnote; for people educated in that culture it's the reverse, so it's just kind of silly to even conceptualize it as something that could or would be phased out the way the post I quoted seemed to suggest. I mean, it's not like anyone's getting confused; the two connotations are... pretty discernible extremes Carbon dioxide posted:Guess where this is:
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Apr 9, 2017 08:56
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Mister Mind posted:Those states being Australia, Brazil, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea and Samoa? I googled "rebel flag" and that's the name I got. A Buttery Pastry posted:I don't see Christians in the West dropping the symbol because of its association with genocidal warmongers. Can we drop it anyway?
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Apr 9, 2017 09:01
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prior to its association with the Nazis, swastikas were well known in the western world as a symbol of good luck. airplane pilots wore swastika pins and necklaces, and various versions were used by many different groups as their logo or symbol also I mean it's just six loving lines. it falls somewhere above "a cross" but below "a star" in terms of complexity. every culture that figured out how to draw was drawing swastikas from the very beginning 
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Apr 9, 2017 09:31
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I remember reading up on buddhism and hinduism before I started school back in the early 90s and found the sun cross so fascinating that I drew it all over for years without anyone stopping me (and this was in Norway where the scars is seemingly still fresh, at least we produce a great amount of books about the terrible years). It wasn't untill I started school and a teacher yelled at me for having a nazi symbol on my backpack and pencil case (for good luck none the less), that I stopped. Mostly because I didn't want to get yelled at. I still like the symbol, I just don't want to be associated with nazis.
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Swastika Laundries in Dublin for most of the 20th century
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Datasmurf posted:I remember reading up on buddhism and hinduism before I started school back in the early 90s and found the sun cross so fascinating that I drew it all over for years without anyone stopping me (and this was in Norway where the scars is seemingly still fresh, at least we produce a great amount of books about the terrible years). It wasn't untill I started school and a teacher yelled at me for having a nazi symbol on my backpack and pencil case (for good luck none the less), that I stopped. Mostly because I didn't want to get yelled at. I still like the symbol, I just don't want to be associated with nazis. Same, drew it on the back of my hand in first or second grade because the symbol looked cool and when someone said "hey little dude you know what that means right" I didn't understand what he was talking about but I never did it again bc he implied it was a bad thing.
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Apr 9, 2017 14:24
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Yeah. I mean, in an alternate reality where the Japanese used a symbol very similar to the Christian cross while carrying out their crimes in Asia, I don't see Christians in the West dropping the symbol because of its association with genocidal warmongers. Well, I mean, that's where it came from originally.
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Heck, I think you could find a lot of former colonies not too keen on the flag of their colonisers, for that matter. edit: and in that case, almost every european country should probably change their flag
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Exercu posted:Heck, I think you could find a lot of former colonies not too keen on the flag of their colonisers, for that matter. About once a year some touring band playing here in Dublin will flash a giant Union Jack onstage, or say something which indicates they think we're part of the UK, and then the entire adoring crowd will turn on them and boo them heavily. Usually we can be won back over, but it's a fun game
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Apr 9, 2017 15:16
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hyperhazard posted:I had to pick out Hindu wedding cards online a couple years back, and every other one had a loving swastika on it. We gave the kids coloring pages during the wedding, and I had to photoshop out a swastika on Ganesh's forehead. And then I showed up to the ceremony and--swear to god--someone had drawn a swastika on a sticky note and put it on the offering plate because god forbid we not have one at the wedding. sooo... you purged a religious wedding by sanitizing its symbolism because it made you uncomfortable, and it's more important to remove all uncomfortable imagery from the public than to respect the practitioners of a religion in how they choose to represent themselves?
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Apr 9, 2017 15:54
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hyperhazard posted:I had to pick out Hindu wedding cards online a couple years back, and every other one had a loving swastika on it. We gave the kids coloring pages during the wedding, and I had to photoshop out a swastika on Ganesh's forehead. And then I showed up to the ceremony and--swear to god--someone had drawn a swastika on a sticky note and put it on the offering plate because god forbid we not have one at the wedding.
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Apr 9, 2017 16:07
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Catberry posted:Story time. There was a mod Butt Wizard that wanted a Andy Warhol style image of the get out frog to be made into an avatar sized gif. He was planning on giving it to posters that sucked, telling them to get out, but he liked the gif so much that he made it his own avatar. Some other people still received it. 
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Apr 9, 2017 16:20
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trapped mouse posted:There was a mod Butt Wizard that wanted a Andy Warhol style image of the get out frog to be made into an avatar sized gif. He was planning on giving it to posters that sucked, telling them to get out, but he liked the gif so much that he made it his own avatar. Some other people still received it. Neat.
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Apr 9, 2017 16:34
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And after it was given out to a whole bunch of others, people started confusing posts because they all had the same avatar so the added red text on each were things like BUTT WIZARD NO, I'M BUTT WIZARD I'M *A* BUTT WIZARD (more of a boob wizard) etc. I want to say it started in PYF?
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Apr 9, 2017 16:37
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Bhodi posted:I want to say it started in PYF? Yep, back in the era when we had a "No posts without an image" rule for the PYF Funny Photo thread because people kept bitching so much about all the derails.
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Apr 9, 2017 16:55
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Man, weren't those the days!
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steinrokkan posted:sooo... you purged a religious wedding by sanitizing its symbolism because it made you uncomfortable, and it's more important to remove all uncomfortable imagery from the public than to respect the practitioners of a religion in how they choose to represent themselves? Good thing the enlightened PYF guy was there to show the ignorant savages the errors of their ways.
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Apr 9, 2017 18:13
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trapped mouse posted:There was a mod Butt Wizard that wanted a Andy Warhol style image of the get out frog to be made into an avatar sized gif. He was planning on giving it to posters that sucked, telling them to get out, but he liked the gif so much that he made it his own avatar. Some other people still received it. The high resolution version prints out very nicely.
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hyperhazard posted:I had to pick out Hindu wedding cards online a couple years back, and every other one had a loving swastika on it. We gave the kids coloring pages during the wedding, and I had to photoshop out a swastika on Ganesh's forehead. And then I showed up to the ceremony and--swear to god--someone had drawn a swastika on a sticky note and put it on the offering plate because god forbid we not have one at the wedding. steinrokkan posted:sooo... you purged a religious wedding by sanitizing its symbolism because it made you uncomfortable, and it's more important to remove all uncomfortable imagery from the public than to respect the practitioners of a religion in how they choose to represent themselves? Chuck Buried Treasure posted:Good thing the enlightened PYF guy was there to show the ignorant savages the errors of their ways. lomarf thread unexpectedly delivers so hard
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Midjack posted:The high resolution version prints out very nicely. e: assuming they miss the myriad of other signs as soon as they walk in, obv Bhodi has a new favorite as of 18:52 on Apr 9, 2017 |
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Apr 9, 2017 18:50
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HookedOnChthonics posted:The religious understanding and traditional cultural usage of the symbol in east asia outweighs its recent Western connotations so thoroughly that it's not really a big deal at all The East and the West are completely separate and never the twain have met.
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Zesty Crab Legs posted:The East and the West are completely separate and never the twain have met. Hey Mac, what's the dope on the North and South?
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