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Chasiubao posted:Christ Angara Avenger is fun. I was competitive in Silver at level 3 just with judicious use of grenades and stealth Protip you can be competitive on gold with just abou anything as long as the custom mission buffs a gun
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Does it take a lot more time to gain XP this patch or is it just that krogan gladiators are not super great until a certain point? Up to lvl 16 and even running gold missions XP grinds take forever.
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Digirat posted:I got the soned and ha ha it can't hit the broad side of a barn while doing a couple pixels of damage per shot to a basic enemy's health bar.
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neonbregna posted:Protip you can be competitive on gold with just abou anything
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Shumagorath posted:Really? I saw a pair of soldiers using them not long after I started multiplayer and they were just melting stuff. Soldiers are pretty much great with just about any weapon.
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Apr 9, 2017 16:42
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Dilb posted:Actually killing guys with powers is relatively tough compared to ME3, and everyone can use a free "don't die now" every 10 seconds. The Asari Adept also gets shield back for every kill in annihilation's radius, so they're getting shield back anyway if things are working correctly. It's not that hard when your an asari adept lol. The asari adept is best when she can regen her shields any way possible. And the free "don't die now" ability is a pair of training wheels for scrubs.
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Salarian Infiltrator owns. Being able to get stupid amounts of experience by constantly reviving lovely teamates owns. Being invisible and throwing a couple grenades on a tough enemy then draining their shield is awesome. But so far the best thing about the character is how the invis dodge completely messes with AI.
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evilmiera posted:Does it take a lot more time to gain XP this patch or is it just that krogan gladiators are not super great until a certain point? Up to lvl 16 and even running gold missions XP grinds take forever. Xp curve is slower in general because you don't prestige characters. It takes a long time past level 15. Don't forget to use your xp boosting consumables.
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Dilb posted:Actually killing guys with powers is relatively tough compared to ME3
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Singularity also takes so loving long to recharge, I'm spoiled after playing vanguard to almost 20. Asari Adept owns but I can't get into the human one.
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Stickman posted:It's 23 extra points (62 at rank I to 85 at rank X, including the 3 automatically placed in active powers). Not sure how those are split across the 5 ranks that boost points, though. So you have to get the class you want 10 times to do the ol' me3 builds, eh. Well, I'm glad I like the Human Sentinel. Kaysette posted:Singularity also takes so loving long to recharge, I'm spoiled after playing vanguard to almost 20. Asari Adept owns but I can't get into the human one. It was much faster in 3, and that felt great. Suckin' every dude into a black hole was a good time.
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  Hey, how should we sort our big lists of icons? Oh, alphabetically should be fine!
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exquisite tea posted:It's unfortunate that the same forgiveness people give to indie titles in early access have now somehow transferred over to AAA games from big studios, where people are essentially shelling out $60-120 in season passes and super deluxe editions to beta test games because they can't wait another drat month to play them. It's pretty drat shameful that Andromeda was released in the state it was and sadder to see people defend a really inferior release like they were some underdog indie studio with a shoestring budget. This is a good post and I agree with it completely. All we need now is that ign fuckhead to tell us how ungrateful we are and it'll be complete
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Shumagorath posted:Really? I saw a pair of soldiers using them not long after I started multiplayer and they were just melting stuff. On what difficulty? I trialed it on silver with cryo ammo II, the AR barrel, and a soldier with maxed turbocharge. It took somewhere in the ballpark of 25 goddamn bullets to kill the standard remnant enemy when close enough for them to actually hit, leaving you exposed for the entire duration, and the accuracy decays so badly that my predator would out-DPS it past about 10 meters, and this is against the enemy with by far the biggest hitboxes. Furthermore the predator weighed 3, and the soned weighed 60, which is so heavy that it will send characters without increased capacity well into the red by itself. If you thought it was the laser accurate version the anointed use, think again. This is just another AR that is hosed over by the massive accuracy decay they added. Without considering the ridiculous weight, it does at least outperform some of the other shotguns and pistols I've tried at very close range. But you're better off just using the talon if that's what you want. Owl Inspector fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Apr 9, 2017 |
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evilmiera posted:Does it take a lot more time to gain XP this patch or is it just that krogan gladiators are not super great until a certain point? Up to lvl 16 and even running gold missions XP grinds take forever. I used a level 8 character on gold with a +100% experience booster. After winning she was level 9. By the mid teens you can do a gold and still not even get a level. They made the leveling really stupidly grindy this time.
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Digirat posted:I used a level 8 character on gold with a +100% experience booster. After winning she was level 9. By the mid teens you can do a gold and still not even get a level. They made the leveling really stupidly grindy this time. And even that would be acceptable if annoying if it wasn't for having to unlock each class ten times
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Two Finger posted:And even that would be acceptable if annoying if it wasn't for having to unlock each class ten times Between that and needing to get the card ten times to get all the points I don't really think I'm going to bother much with the rarer classes.
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Some Rs and URs are pretty good even at rank 1. Off the top of my head the angarans and asari duelist and human kineticist, krogan gladiator, can all hold their own in gold lvls 13ish+. I have a rank 1 duelist myself and although it's not as crazy as my rank 10 human vanguard it's close enough for the skillpoint differences.
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I've unlocked 3 URs, all weapons - the Piranha is OK but the Dhan and PAW are pretty useless at level 1, and maybe just in general with whatever they did to the weapons in multi to make them all suck. The PAW (which was my favorite weapon for Ryder in the campaign) runs out of juice extremely quickly and the Dhan doesn't hurt at all for something that fires an arced projectile with a very limited clip size and spare ammo pool. I think it's a little ridiculous that there's already 5 UR classes too, before they added the Salarian Architect there were actually more UR classes than R.
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RBA Starblade posted:How are you all speccing the human engineer? 66653 with the 3 in the turret (seems a bit weak) and 5 in one of the passives? Honestly I'd just leave the 1 point in the turret and never think about it again. Yeah, the turret can sometimes draw aggro, but not reliably (RIP Decoy 2012-2017) and obviously the damage is "lol" on Gold.
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I made a video of my level 20 Infiltrator using a Lanat with a Targeting VI 4 and a Sniper Rifle Amp 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Esa8hk9MU MarshyMcFly fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Apr 9, 2017 |
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Having tried it last night I deffo prefer a Lanat II to a Vanquisher I.
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precision posted:Having tried it last night I deffo prefer a Lanat II to a Vanquisher I. It hits like a truck. The Vanquisher having the larger clip makes up for it though.
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So here's something to NOT do (or do, lmao) as a vanguard: If an adept uses singularity on more than 3 things, do not use shockwave on it then charge it. The game crashed processing all the explosions lol Rip my last experience booster e: Wait did the servers go down I can't reconnect RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Apr 10, 2017 |
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RBA Starblade posted:So here's something to NOT do (or do, lmao) as a vanguard: If an adept uses singularity on more than 3 things, do not use shockwave on it then charge it. The game crashed processing all the explosions lol Same here. I think so.
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RBA Starblade posted:e: Wait did the servers go down I can't reconnect
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Unfortunate, as I'd just started trying the multiplayer today. The basic human sentinel seems to be fine for an entry level class, priming and detonating her own tech combos with a charger for gunning.
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Cythereal posted:Unfortunate, as I'd just started trying the multiplayer today. The basic human sentinel seems to be fine for an entry level class, priming and detonating her own tech combos with a charger for gunning.
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g0del posted:Don't get too attached to detonating combos. They do virtually no damage on gold. There's a reason everyone's using either the vanquisher or melee. I never played gold in ME3 so that's okay. Sentinel seems okay on bronze, and it's sufficient to start unlocking stuff and getting better guns.
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g0del posted:Don't get too attached to detonating combos. They do virtually no damage on gold. There's a reason everyone's using either the vanquisher or melee. 
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I bumped into a host who was using a 0 cooldowns cheat so I charged around with an asari adept teammate, using infinite concussive shots to detonate everything in her field as fast as possible. With 0 cooldowns, the combos were still slower than just sniping or headbutting everything to death. Ragdolling idiots everywhere was fun and the spectacle of combos is great, but the damage is just pathetic. Like it's so bad that I'm not sure it would be overboard to literally multiply it by 5. I'm pretty sure that would still be less damage than in mass effect 3, if you consider a raider equivalent to a cerberus trooper.
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MarshyMcFly posted:I made a video of my level 20 Infiltrator using a Lanat with a Targeting VI 4 and a Sniper Rifle Amp 4: cloak dodge is so much better than the other dodges, even biotic blink, it's not even funny.
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They had a combo buff Apex mission a while ago, and in that the combos were okay.
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Well, to be fair, while combos do less damage this time, you can much more easily do combos in this one. You don't even have to try very hard to have a constant stream of tech/fire/biotic explosions, whereas in ME3MP they were either somewhat rare or you had a team specced specifically for explosions. Then again, in ME3MP some powers actually did good damage (RIP Dark Channel 2012-2017, though I hear Invasion is basically MEA's version of it?)
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Played a few games last night with some bros, and there were detonations every few seconds. At best, you'll fire a guy off into the loving atmosphere when you hit them with a biotic combo, so that's something.
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precision posted:Well, to be fair, while combos do less damage this time, you can much more easily do combos in this one. You don't even have to try very hard to have a constant stream of tech/fire/biotic explosions, whereas in ME3MP they were either somewhat rare or you had a team specced specifically for explosions. Yeah, and for the longest time, you could only get tech/fire/cryo explosions if you killed the target with the detonating power, so the only people who could detonate on a regular basis were biotics. And even after that change, tech/cryo combos weren't as powerful as biotic/fire combos. This time around, with the looser restrictions on comboing, and the existence of powers that can detonate and prime, I think they're going for quantity not quality.
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Cythereal posted:I never played gold in ME3 so that's okay. Sentinel seems okay on bronze, and it's sufficient to start unlocking stuff and getting better guns.
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Gold is perfectly playable at level 1 with any class as long as you have a Vanquisher or Black Widow, just tack on a couple boosters.
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