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To be fair, when the Lost finale aired on TV it was followed by images of the 815 crash over the credits. That wasn't actually a creative decision on Lindelof and Cuse's part (I think it was some weirdo ABC executive or something that threw that in there) and I can see how that could cause people to massively misinterpret the ending. It's a super interesting phenomenon from a semiotic point of a view. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Apr 9, 2017 |
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I'm sorry, but the lost ending was the worst ending to anything i have ever read or seen. I say this with a postgraduate degree in literature. I might not be able to ever get a job in my field, or any job, but at least i get to have very confident opinions about stories. I'm 33 years old and this has gotten me through. (I still liked lost up until the final season)
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Apr 9, 2017 11:33
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I didn't even know about that epilogue and I was a huge LOST fan, thanks for that post I'm on Ep 5 now, I'd forgotten about Kevin's mystery call from the ATF&C guy who's name came up on the caller ID then switched to "Unknown" when he started getting weird and talking about eliminating infestations
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Apr 9, 2017 12:42
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As somebody without an advanced degree in literature I get to enjoy the finale of Lost. I'm soso keen for some more ninth doctor!
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Apr 9, 2017 12:47
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If only I had a literature degree so I could realise how the Lost finale is Actually Bad  (I don't really like a lot of the final season but absolutely think the finale knocks it out of the park)
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Apr 9, 2017 13:06
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5 RING SHRIMP posted:I think it's just that you can't go into the Leftovers expecting any sort of answers regarding what happened during the disappearance. Watching LOST week to week for years it was absolutely impossible to not come up with theories about what was going on and what things meant. Not that the character development and themes and poo poo were worthless once you definitively found out they were all really dead, but the theories were impossible to ignore. With the Leftovers we at least know we aren't going to get answers so dips into the mythicism or supernatural or you whatever you want to call it happen and you don't have to search for" physical" literal meaning. This is what I thought. But delta bravos in the thread keep repeating it when nobody is even discussing "theories." "I like season 1 better than season 2" "Lol LOST really messed people up"
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Apr 9, 2017 13:49
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Jeez take it easy buddy
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Apr 9, 2017 14:20
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Escobarbarian posted:If only I had a literature degree so I could realise how the Lost finale is Actually Bad Yeah LOST's ending is great, no one can convince me otherwise. Even if they have a postgraduate degree in literature  The final season had its problems, but I don't count the finale in them at all.
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Apr 9, 2017 14:46
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I forgot that Dog Man was investigated by the GR and they couldn't find anything on him
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Apr 9, 2017 15:41
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Last Chance posted:Yeah LOST's ending is great, no one can convince me otherwise. Even if they have a postgraduate degree in literature I'd unironically love to hear why you think the Lost finale was great. Specifically with regards to what you take away from it, i.e. how it changed you in some way, or how it sheds an interesting light on any of the themes the show explores. No one has ever been able to tell me how the finale helps to bring that show beyond the superficial level of the narrative itself, what its message is, what it offers as food for thought beyond the story.
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Apr 9, 2017 18:39
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I finished Season 1 and enjoyed it a lot more this time around, I'm upgrading it from Good to Very Good. Onto Season 2 now, I'd forgotten how creepy Happy John was
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Apr 9, 2017 21:12
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sticklefifer posted:There's literally a scene in the finale where Jack's dad explains to him that the island was all real, but the place they're in now isn't. Yet I still have conversations with people I know who claim "it was such bullshit, they were in purgatory all along!" Can we spoiler the Lost ending stuff please. Just kidding, we gave up on Lost after the 3rd or 4th season. Not sure if we'll ever go back and finish it up at this point.
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Apr 9, 2017 22:28
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tomapot posted:Can we spoiler the Lost ending stuff please. Should. One of the best TVs ever.
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Apr 10, 2017 01:03
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UmOk posted:This is what I thought. But delta bravos in the thread keep repeating it when nobody is even discussing "theories." Haha yep UmOk posted:Should. One of the best TVs ever. For reasons I mentioned in my previous post I wonder what LOST is like after the fact. It was a cultural phenomenon, the constant speculation and fuckery made it by far the most fun show to talk about I've ever watched.
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Professor Shark posted:I forgot that Dog Man was investigated by the GR and they couldn't find anything on him While we're (sort of) on the topic, Michael Gaston is in everything. I re-watched The Leftovers a couple weeks back and since then I've noticed him popping up in about a half dozen shows I watch.
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5 RING SHRIMP posted:Haha yep
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Apr 10, 2017 02:27
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UmOk posted:Should. One of the best TVs ever. The time commitment is ridiculous though, it is something like 120 episodes. I ran up against the same thing with my West Wing rewatch, the tv seasons back then ran 18+ episodes. A lot harder than binging through today's 10 episode seasons. I'll probably get back to it one day, but so much other TV to get through first.
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Apr 10, 2017 02:32
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tomapot posted:The time commitment is ridiculous though, it is something like 120 episodes. I ran up against the same thing with my West Wing rewatch, the tv seasons back then ran 18+ episodes. A lot harder than binging through today's 10 episode seasons. I'll probably get back to it one day, but so much other TV to get through first. It's hard to believe they did that many episodes and very little, if any, was filler. Each episode continued the story on the island while at the same time having a pretty self contained flashback(or forward or sideways) for one of the characters that tied back in to what was happening on the island. Kinda want to rewatch now.
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UmOk posted:It's hard to believe they did that many episodes and very little, if any, was filler. *ahem* the first half of season 3 would like a word with you. (ABC wouldn't commit to an end date, so the creators taught them a lesson by going hog-wild with filler. It worked. They got their date, and the remaining seasons were shorter and tighter, s6 issues notwithstanding.)
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Hipster_Doofus posted:*ahem* the first half of season 3 would like a word with you. I liked the first half of season 3. It's the first half of season 2 that I still can't stand to watch. The Tailies never did it for me.
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5 RING SHRIMP posted:Haha yep I only watched it a few years ago for the first time, and I loved it. Since I already knew 'there wouldn't be answers' (there was though many weren't great), and 'the island is purgatory' (which it isn't and anyone who got that wrong weren't paying attention), I was just along for the ride and just got into the characters. You can really see some of the best qualities of lost in the leftovers, it's just a lot tighter than lost ever was.
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Apr 10, 2017 09:41
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The majority of people I knew who thought they were dead all along only tuned into the last episode and never actually watched the entire show. It's hard for people to grasp that the show isn't shown in linear time when they just tune into one episode.
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oliwan posted:I'd unironically love to hear why you think the Lost finale was great. Specifically with regards to what you take away from it, i.e. how it changed you in some way, or how it sheds an interesting light on any of the themes the show explores. Yeah, I hear ya there. I loved Lost back when it aired, but when I try to think of the finale and if it even had any kind of impact on my overall feelings of the show as a whole, or what huge memorable, iconic moments it had, there really isn't all that much there. I remember they made as much an effort as they could to try to tie some of the countless, inconclusive and ever added-to mysteries, myths and histories together to make some kind of sense. What that sense is, I don't really remember any of, or really care that much. As for iconic moments, I remember that the Jack vs Locke "put a cork in it" final boss battle was cheesy af, all the cast got together to cry in church and a fat neckbeard inherited The Island so he could sit on the beach
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I've never seen Lost, and I don't think I'll ever be checking it out, but from what I can tell from what you all are saying about it, Lindelof was NOT given complete creative control by the network, correct? And this was the major cause of the issues that have been brought up, including the finale and how long it took to get there? Well, I'm really glad that The Leftovers is what we get when he DOES have almost-complete control (aside from the original author helping out). I have a good feeling about how this show will end. I highly doubt, aside from limiting it to 3 seasons, HBO has gotten much in his way.
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e: I don't wanna talk about LOST anymore or justify why I like the finale. Back to The Leftovers: Just finished Season 1, Episode 9, The One Where People Depart Kidding of course, the episode's actually titled "The Garveys At Their Best." And it's really accurate. I'd forgotten they'd done an entire flashback episode in season one for some reason and this one's really great. I also hadn't realized that Kevin's little glimpses of happiness during his rendition of "Homeward Bound" in season two pretty much consisted of scenes from this pre/during-departure episode. Kevin Sr.'s party is sweet, and it's fun seeing Matt cut loose and not really giving much of a poo poo about anything because of a cancer scare, I guess? Obviously every character has serious problems, but there are moments of true happiness sprinkled throughout each of their stories and this entire hour serves as a nice contrast for the mega-grim poo poo that's about to transpire. I've always been impressed by this show's ability to create unease, and they do it very well here when you watch everyone's lives fall apart in slow motion lol.
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There was so much stuff I'd forgotten about for Season 1 that I'm annoyed I didn't rewatch last season. For example, the car load of women that stop to ask Kevin if he's ready when he's sitting on the side of the road in a white shirt smoking, several hours before the Departure. Or the guy at the hostel trying to kill Christine in order to kill the baby because "[he] knows what's in there!" Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Apr 11, 2017 |
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Apr 11, 2017 10:33
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Last Chance posted:e: I don't wanna talk about LOST anymore or justify why I like the finale. Back to The Leftovers: I'm on a rewatch and "The Garveys At Their Best" is a great reframing of the series and perfectly placed in the progression of the episodes. I love how some of the facade stats to break down over time. Some great acting in there, especially between Laurie and Kevin.
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Apr 11, 2017 17:05
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Haven't heard anything about how hot Justin Theroux is in a while. You need to mention that at least once per episode recap.
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Apr 11, 2017 17:16
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Professor Shark posted:There was so much stuff I'd forgotten about for Season 1 that I'm annoyed I didn't rewatch last season. tomapot posted:I'm on a rewatch and "The Garveys At Their Best" is a great reframing of the series and perfectly placed in the progression of the episodes. I love how some of the facade stats to break down over time. Some great acting in there, especially between Laurie and Kevin.
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Invalid Validation posted:Haven't heard anything about how hot Justin Theroux is in a while. You need to mention that at least once per episode recap. Guys got a hammer
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Invalid Validation posted:Haven't heard anything about how hot Justin Theroux is in a while. You need to mention that at least once per episode recap. He is, by far, my one 'if I went gay' choice. Actually, I don't even think I'd have to be gay to be honest.
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Invalid Validation posted:Haven't heard anything about how hot Justin Theroux is in a while. You need to mention that at least once per episode recap. The last couple of episodes I've rewatched have featured Theroux jogging in his gray sweatpants which make the outline of his cock look like it's made from marble or stone. It's funny how he charms some some Asian ladies gardening when he jogs past.
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Last Chance posted:The last couple of episodes I've rewatched have featured Theroux jogging in his gray sweatpants which make the outline of his cock look like it's made from marble or stone. I was reading an interview with Carrie Coon and she jokingly said she thinks Lindelof puts Theroux through all these tough scenes (drowning, getting buried, shot, etc) because Lindelof is jealous of how devastatingly handsome he is.
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Apr 11, 2017 20:45
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I forgot that Tommy knew the detail of Holy Wayne dying in a gas station bathroom... how did he know that? I assumed his story about meeting him and Wayne hugging him was bullshit, but we left Tommy just as he found the baby iirc
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Apr 11, 2017 21:47
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These forums were at their peak during the  seasons. Anyways. I think my favorite scene of The Leftovers is Kevin singing "Homeward Bound". Beautifully shot, and reading about how they chose that scene is pretty funny.
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HanabaL03 posted:These forums were at their peak during the Got a link?
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Got a link? http://www.indiewire.com/2016/06/the-leftovers-karaoke-scene-finale-damon-lindelof-justin-theroux-oral-history-interview-1201690160/
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HanabaL03 posted:http://www.indiewire.com/2016/06/the-leftovers-karaoke-scene-finale-damon-lindelof-justin-theroux-oral-history-interview-1201690160/ Great read! The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV > The Leftovers Season 3: I don’t even like Simon and Garfunkel
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This review is also probably the best summary of the show's themes: http://variety.com/2017/tv/reviews/leftovers-season-3-review-final-episodes-1202029489/
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oliwan posted:I'm sorry, but the lost ending was the worst ending to anything i have ever read or seen. I say this with a postgraduate degree in literature.  at thinking education applies to something that's completely a matter of opinion and personal taste.Octy posted:While we're (sort of) on the topic, Michael Gaston is in everything. I re-watched The Leftovers a couple weeks back and since then I've noticed him popping up in about a half dozen shows I watch. Bonk fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Apr 13, 2017 |
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