|
The wheels continue to turn on Axanar, as now the newest update says the Indiegogo was all about the sets, not paying rent. But read this, and see if you can detect the minor issue. I've bolded it to help out. quote:Axanar Productions will be able to shoot at the Industry Studios stage, but we need to move out so the studio can be rented out to other productions. This is a huge win as it eliminates the financial burden of the stage, but allows us access to the studio! The donor money spent will not have been wasted, and continue to benefit Axanar Productions. In addition, we are working out terms with the landlord by which a portion of any profits will come back to Axanar to compensate us for the investment of donor money we made in the facility. It's also worth noting that Peters formed a shell LLC in Georgia two months ago, so this is by no means a "new" development.
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 20:52
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 20:04 |
|
|
His whole plan was to use Star Trek to raise money to create his own studio. He created the studio, ran out of money and has now lost the studio and there's still no Axanar. This guy should just fire himself into the sun.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 20:55
|
|
|
Cojawfee posted:His whole plan was to use Star Trek to raise money to create his own studio. He created the studio, ran out of money and has now lost the studio and there's still no Axanar. This guy should just fire himself into the sun. Remember, Christian Gossett produced email chains in which Peters said all along his idea with Axanar was for CBS or Paramount to buy it out from him and give him a seat at the table for Star Trek's creative future. He desperately wanted to be one of the guys in charge of the franchise. Oh, one other thing -- one of the few things we do know about the settlement that Peters signed to stave off the lawsuit was that he was forbidden to do any further crowdfunding to pay for Axanar. (That's why the new Indiegogo campaign was "about" paying rent at the studio to allow other independent films to set up shop there.) But if he takes that crowdfunded money and uses it to store or transport his sets to Georgia, in effect using crowdfunded money to assist in the production of Axanar ... well, I'm sure CBS and Paramount have at least a few lawyers on retainer who would be happy to see that as a material breach of settlement. Timby fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 9, 2017 |
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:01
|
|
|
I'd laugh if the writers strike kills Discovery before it even starts.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:51
|
|
|
twistedmentat posted:I'd laugh if the writers strike kills Discovery before it even starts. Hey, they could get their two finished episodes out. You know, the ones that took them two and a half months to make. 
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 22:06
|
|
|
twistedmentat posted:I'd laugh if the writers strike kills Discovery before it even starts. Time to go back and use some Phase 2 scripts. Still got 9 unused episodes.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 22:22
|
|
|
twistedmentat posted:I'd laugh if the writers strike kills Discovery before it even starts. Wouldn't CBS have to refund a shitload of money in that event? It's supposedly already effectively bought and paid for by international distribution deals.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 22:25
|
|
|
Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Wouldn't CBS have to refund a shitload of money in that event? It's supposedly already effectively bought and paid for by international distribution deals. Yeah, Netflix bought the non-North America streaming rights for a boat-ton of money, and depending on which interview with Les Moonves you check, it paid for either half or all of the season's production costs. Although that was said at a time long before the series went massively over-schedule (and, presumably, massively over-budget).
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 22:28
|
|
|
CBS is Axanar.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 22:33
|
|
|
DirtyRobot posted:CBS is Axanar. What the gently caress does that even mean?
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 22:47
|
|
|
I assume that whatever comes of Discovery will be about on par with what may have come of Axanar had it been a real thing. And I'd probably agree at this point.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 23:38
|
|
|
I thought they meant that a ton of money has been poured into it and there's nothing to show for it yet. At least Axanar has a trailer with footage of actors. A strike would delay an already massively delayed production, and Netflix has to be upset they haven't delievered anything yet. At least Netflix didn't do a while amount of promotion last year when it was supposed to be out by January, or they'd be ever madder.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 00:07
|
|
|
So, since more Star Trek is evidently not coming out soon, if ever, what other shows might scratch the TOS itch for me? And by that, I don't mean aping the appearance of a 60s TV show, but something where exploring space is an adventure, not (for instance) a desperate struggle for survival or just another way to make a buck. The whole 'boldly go' mission statement. It doesn't necessarily have to be airing right now, or even recently, and web content is also acceptable.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 00:23
|
|
|
FredMSloniker posted:So, since more Star Trek is evidently not coming out soon, if ever, what other shows might scratch the TOS itch for me? And by that, I don't mean aping the appearance of a 60s TV show, but something where exploring space is an adventure, not (for instance) a desperate struggle for survival or just another way to make a buck. The whole 'boldly go' mission statement. It doesn't necessarily have to be airing right now, or even recently, and web content is also acceptable. If you can handle an actual 60s TV show in black & white and non-English, Raumpatrouille. It's a West German miniseries about a space captain and his "phantastischen Abenteuer" on galactic patrol duty. It's about as cheap as TOS and has a similar vibe, but with somewhat better interior decoration. Brought to a premature end by budget problems, but it's a real classic.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 00:30
|
|
|
Timby posted:Remember, Christian Gossett produced email chains in which Peters said all along his idea with Axanar was for CBS or Paramount to buy it out from him and give him a seat at the table for Star Trek's creative future. He desperately wanted to be one of the guys in charge of the franchise. And this is why, as lovely as it is for the average bear of a fanfilm who just wants to have fun and play in the sandbox, lawyers strongly enforce intellectual property and copyright. 
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 01:12
|
|
|
I'm just finishing up DS9 and I don't get the Keiko-hate. She seems pretty cool to me? She obviously cares quite a bit about Miles' happiness. She gave up her career on the Enterprise to move to a crap station on the rear end end of nowhere to be with him. When she saw that he missed Bashir, she arranged the situation so they could keep playing holodeck games with each other without Miles feeling guilty about not spending all his free time with her. She couldn't have been hinting any stronger that she was totally cool with it if Miles wanted to swing with Kira, etc
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 01:16
|
|
|
DirtyRobot posted:CBS is Axanar. I was about to say CBS could get more episodes out by paying Axanar in not-having-to-sue-them
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 01:19
|
|
|
FredMSloniker posted:So, since more Star Trek is evidently not coming out soon, if ever, what other shows might scratch the TOS itch for me? And by that, I don't mean aping the appearance of a 60s TV show, but something where exploring space is an adventure, not (for instance) a desperate struggle for survival or just another way to make a buck. The whole 'boldly go' mission statement. It doesn't necessarily have to be airing right now, or even recently, and web content is also acceptable. The original run of Doctor Who? It wasn't even vaguely about 'what's special about this companion? What secret is the Doctor holding this time?' and was much more about 'what's out there and what adventure can we get into?'
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 01:21
|
|
|
VitalSigns posted:I'm just finishing up DS9 and I don't get the Keiko-hate. She seems pretty cool to me? Keiko hate is totally a product of TNG imo and it just bleeds into DS9. There's basically not a single moment in TNG where you ever see Miles and Keiko being a happy, well adjusted couple. DS9 isn't nearly bad and you're right that she's fine there.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 02:09
|
|
|
twistedmentat posted:I thought they meant that a ton of money has been poured into it and there's nothing to show for it yet. At least Axanar has a trailer with footage of actors. At least Discovery has actual product, because we know they've finished at least two episodes. All Axanar did was piss away $1.4 million after people jizzed over one of the stupidest fanfilms ever made. (Seriously, Richard Hatch's "performance" in that is unbelievably terrible.) And a strike wouldn't prohibit Discovery from shooting whatever scripts they still have.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 02:13
|
|
|
FredMSloniker posted:So, since more Star Trek is evidently not coming out soon, if ever, what other shows might scratch the TOS itch for me? And by that, I don't mean aping the appearance of a 60s TV show, but something where exploring space is an adventure, not (for instance) a desperate struggle for survival or just another way to make a buck. The whole 'boldly go' mission statement. It doesn't necessarily have to be airing right now, or even recently, and web content is also acceptable. seaQuest DSV had some aspects of this, though it's a lot more grounded... or should I say... SUBMERGED? Also, have you watched TAS?
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 03:07
|
|
|
FredMSloniker posted:So, since more Star Trek is evidently not coming out soon, if ever, what other shows might scratch the TOS itch for me? And by that, I don't mean aping the appearance of a 60s TV show, but something where exploring space is an adventure, not (for instance) a desperate struggle for survival or just another way to make a buck. The whole 'boldly go' mission statement. It doesn't necessarily have to be airing right now, or even recently, and web content is also acceptable. You should see Forbidden Planet, if you haven't yet. TOS cribbed a lot from that movie.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 03:49
|
|
|
Mr. Homn vs. Maihar'du! Which servitor reigns supreme?
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 04:33
|
|
|
Nessus posted:seaQuest DSV had some aspects of this, though it's a lot more grounded... or should I say... SUBMERGED? Just remember, there's only one season.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 04:36
|
|
|
Evek posted:Time to go back and use some Phase 2 scripts. Still got 9 unused episodes. They should broadcast a twitch stream of someone playing the Star Trek mod for Stellaris instead.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 04:54
|
|
|
MikeJF posted:Just remember, there's only one season. For some reason kid me right the season one finale was like, season two or three. It was really weird finding out later in life I'd only really seen season one.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 05:08
|
|
|
Why do the Bajorans even have the Book of the Kosst Amojen anyway. A blank book full of evil that you can only read if you're the Kai with the fresh blood of an innocent monk you just slaughtered? Why... would you have that. Even if there's important tips in there to defeat evil, only one person on Bajor can read it and in order to do it they have to be evil already!
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 05:31
|
|
|
Probably they figured a Prophet touched it so it's sacred now. Or they're afraid destroying it will open the gates of hell or something.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 05:47
|
|
|
It probably doesn't burn either.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 06:08
|
|
|
VitalSigns posted:Why do the Bajorans even have the Book of the Kosst Amojen anyway. Sounds pretty metal to me I'd keep it.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 06:40
|
|
|
Kosst Amojen come to me
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 13:21
|
|
|
Cojawfee posted:Kosst Amojen come to me Substitutiary kosst amojen (  ?)
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 13:43
|
|
|
MikeJF posted:Just remember, there's only one season. You know what, the titular submarine being blown up deep under an alien ocean while a boy genius and a genetic oaf languish in a rubber raft on the surface of a planet with no landmasses with only a single dolphin to keep them company is still one of the most cliffhangy cliffhangers I've ever seen.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 17:31
|
|
|
The Bloop posted:You know what, the titular submarine being blown up deep under an alien ocean while a boy genius and a genetic oaf languish in a rubber raft on the surface of a planet with no landmasses with only a single dolphin to keep them company is still one of the most cliffhangy cliffhangers I've ever seen. It's pretty similar to farscape's
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 19:12
|
|
|
Tunicate posted:It's pretty similar to farscape's Counterpoint Farscape was not 100% garbage and was canceled, Seaquest was getting another season.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 19:21
|
|
|
Data Graham posted:Substitutiary kosst amojen You know bad stuff is going down if the Bajoran being spoken sounds like this: Bajoran bajoran PAH-something. Bajoran bajoran PAH-something-or-other! PAH-something bajoran something! It's like the example par excellence of "how to make up an alien language in 90s sci fi." I.e., make up a rhythm, but throw in one or two recognizable words (c.f. "Kree Jaffa!") Memory Alpha to the rescue: quote:Example 1: Meeh rak Dorah Pah-wran... Ee-toi... Velah-slah... Pah-wran amar... Pah-wran Evak-too...* * This one is what that weirdo cultist was saying to Sisko before he stabbed him, at the beginning of S7. Honestly, Sisko should have been able to figure out bad stuff was going down. As soon as you heard "PAH other stuff other stuff PAH other stuff" you knew exactly what was up (though it was already a bit obvious, my point is honestly Sisko should have known too, instead of just being like, "hm, that sounds ancient bajoran").
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 19:49
|
|
|
DirtyRobot posted:It's like the example par excellence of "how to make up an alien language in 90s sci fi." I.e., make up a rhythm, but throw in one or two recognizable words (c.f. "Kree Jaffa!") Meeh rak Dorah Pah-wran... Ee-toi... Velah-slah...nipple-pinchy
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 20:09
|
|
|
Nessus posted:Ridiculous! Who would ever make a TV show that wasn't stark and grim. I love seaQuest DSV (and it really is a shame it only got one season) but that show in some ways was even more TNG than TNG was. But in a good way, if that makes any sense.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 20:34
|
|
|
Bah weep grah nah pah-ninni bong!
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 20:34
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 20:04 |
|
|
MikeJF posted:Just remember, there's only one season. WHAT? And miss out on Michael Ironside being a dick to everyone? Bad advice, very bad advice.
|
|
#
?
Apr 10, 2017 20:43
|
|