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I hope there's an evolution for Drifblim that's just the Hindenburg.
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edit: Double post, sorry.
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Oh my god This game is amazing
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KataraniSword posted:It's one thing to try to swindle people into buying poo poo wasn't the game free even before the C&D forced people to go through more illegitimate ways of getting it
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Apr 10, 2017 05:40
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yeah the game is free, idk what that guys smoking
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Apr 10, 2017 05:45
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Toraen posted:Speed Boost doesn't trigger if you gained it partway through the turn or if you switched in that turn. Oh, that makes sense.
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Apr 10, 2017 05:46
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I'll give some points to Uranium in, at least, the theater and stuff I think was modelled after Greek and Shakespeare-era play stuff? Where even the women roles were played by men so... I guess it's... something. Even if it seems like a really odd info dump for a Gym Leader to give you before you fight her, and you never really bothered to ask.
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Apr 10, 2017 06:45
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With Chorps mentioning Dramsama's..."inspiration", I looked up the blog post and I learned more about Uranium's design philosophy than I expected to learn. quote:It also learns Transform, for the lulz, and also because a Pokemon with base 135 HP using Transform is scary as heck. (Transform Dramsama would likely be banned in competitive play, but it’s in Uranium because we can. That says a lot. If you want to read it, it's here, but it shows off a pokemon OFS hasn't encountered yet.
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Apr 10, 2017 06:49
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quote:because we can. That explains so much about their "design philosophies." With that said, they seem to have slightly come to their senses for that one, since its actual base stats are lower than the ones said in the blog.
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Apr 10, 2017 06:54
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Carlosologist posted:as a person who teaches Shakespeare, the Twelfth Night reference was right there with the gym leader disguised as a man. wouldn't make it any less stupid though As You Like It had Roselind. But still, the people who made this thing really dropped the ball here. References to Elizabethan theater in Drama Town? That would've been great if done right.
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Apr 10, 2017 07:43
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somebody hosed up that snivy's face
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Apr 10, 2017 08:35
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MissEchelon posted:somebody hosed up that snivy's face he got punched in the nose and it popped out the back of his head
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Apr 10, 2017 08:56
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Ometeotl posted:With Chorps mentioning Dramsama's..."inspiration", I looked up the blog post and I learned more about Uranium's design philosophy than I expected to learn. oh no Mister Olympus posted:Wolpertingers/Jackalopes/Rabbits With Horns What Drunk People See are pretty common folklore creatures, presumably spawned from sightings of rabbits with a disease that gives them horrible tumors. thank you for teaching me something.
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Apr 10, 2017 08:58
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Actress solves sexism in pokemon game is somehow not the most utterly ridiculous thing in this game It's maybe the single best example thus far of "we literally just threw in whatever" regarding how this game was designed. Why is poke-sexism a one-off gym leader subplot expressed almost entirely through one monologue? Who thought this was a good choice?
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Apr 10, 2017 10:23
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GeneX posted:Actress solves sexism in pokemon game is somehow not the most utterly ridiculous thing in this game Considering the "Gamer girl" and "crossdressing gym leader" "jokes" they had earlier, I'm almost positive that this gym leader was made specifically as a fig leaf for all the sexist poo poo they put in. "See! We're not sexist! We even have a woman who did a man's job!"
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Apr 10, 2017 10:32
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
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"It'd probably get banned from Competitive". Not with Team Preview, no Impostor, and 4x weaknesses to Ghost and Dark it won't. Sure, it's beefy, but there's a reason wind-up moves are almost universally garbage. I could see it being an interesting anti-lead because of Illusion, but again, Team Preview puts a big dent in that. It seems like it's got a lot of useful sets, which is what got Lucario banned, and theoretically, I could get Dramsama banned, too. But if it did, Transform wouldn't be the reason why, it'd be having a 135/60/70 Zoroark who can Mega Evolve. (Psychic/Ghost is decent offensive STAB, and with Focus Blast, it'd have perfect neutral coverage. Leaves a slot open for Nasty Plot.) Not even counting all the things that can come into play with baiting a Transform and then switching, there are a host of Pokemon who would take the turn of wind-up from a Dramsama switch-in before it transforms and just tear it in half. Things with any amount of setup will destroy it. You know, exactly the kinds of things you're supposed to bring a TFer in against. 252 SpA Alakazam-Mega Shadow Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Dramsama: 588-692 (142.7 - 167.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Dark Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Dramsama: 780-920 (189.3 - 223.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Life Orb Mimikyu Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dramsama: 801-951 (194.4 - 230.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Krookodile Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dramsama: 888-1048 (215.5 - 254.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO Or, my favorite +1 252 Atk Mold Breaker Gyarados-Mega Crunch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Abomasnow: 1356-1596 (329.1 - 387.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO Edit My point here is that not only are they making lovely, arbitrary game design decisions and faulty assumptions, it's that even the assumptions they're disregarding are incorrect. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Apr 10, 2017 |
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Apr 10, 2017 10:33
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I like the actor Gym gimmick and the new illusion lad looks cool. Everything else is just very weird and stilted though.
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Apr 10, 2017 10:38
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PMush Perfect posted:"It'd probably get banned from Competitive". Not with Team Preview, no Impostor, and 4x weaknesses to Ghost and Dark it won't. eh, the 135 got nerfed to 85 somewhere along the way so the point is moot.
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Randalor posted:Considering the "Gamer girl" and "crossdressing gym leader" "jokes" they had earlier, I'm almost positive that this gym leader was made specifically as a fig leaf for all the sexist poo poo they put in. I actually think it's the other side of the horse shoe. They think they're being super progressive and open. It's the same as Pokemon Reborn. Don't play Pokemon Reborn.
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Apr 10, 2017 11:24
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krisslanza posted:I'll give some points to Uranium in, at least, the theater and stuff I think was modelled after Greek and Shakespeare-era play stuff? Where even the women roles were played by men so... I guess it's... something. Shakespeare for sure was an influence on this, but I'm pretty sure the masks are a stronger reference to Commedia Dell'arte, especially considering the Italian flair of Venesi City (Get it it's Venice said in a lovely faux italian accent ha ha ha). So while a lot of the update showed some bad stuff like the Titanic pokemon or Syrantide's actually-horrid design/spritework, as a theatre guy I'm pretty okay with them referencing a theatre form that Joe the Plumber may not be familiar with. That being said I would much prefer the concept of Pokemon!Commedia be pulled off in an official game where Italy was the region of choice.
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Apr 10, 2017 11:33
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I like Masking. He's okay. I'm surprised Miasmedic isn't worse. Was expecting some edgey skeletal death bird or something, but its almost disappointing in how meh it is.
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Onmi posted:I actually think it's the other side of the horse shoe. They think they're being super progressive and open. It's the same as Pokemon Reborn. Don't play Pokemon Reborn. There's no "they", unless you mean the gender neutral singular pronoun; it's completely disconnected from anything else either thematically or narratively. That leads me to believe one person just sort of came up with the gym and everything involved, everyone else gave it a cursory glance and were happy it looked relatively balanced, and it was implemented as-is. It's just utterly jarring.
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Onmi posted:I actually think it's the other side of the horse shoe. They think they're being super progressive and open. It's the same as Pokemon Reborn. Don't play Pokemon Reborn. Hard level caps and ridiculous battle gimmicks that take the different Terrain moves and run a marathon with 'em are the least of that game's problems For heck's sake, can't we have a pokémon fangame that's relaxed and fun to play instead of constant angst, darkness and gritty realism? Fangames could stand to take more notes from official games on story and presentation
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Zereth posted:So if you're not going to show us, are you going to at least tell us about it? When it comes up, anyway.
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Apr 10, 2017 13:29
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GeneX posted:There's no "they", unless you mean the gender neutral singular pronoun; it's completely disconnected from anything else either thematically or narratively. I don't make assumptions when it comes to fan game development because, having done it myself and been part of that stuff, I know how things can go. So I used "They" to imply either a single person or potentially more. Just from my own experiences with fan communities and development. Vinylshadow posted:I've heard horror stories about Reborn and played maybe fifteen minutes of it and wasn't impressed I've seen stuff from all 16 episodes (Also Episodic Pokemon Game is bad juju) and it just gets worse. It is very much the case of "I believe I am being deep and meaningful and representative" and instead it just being... awful.
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Apr 10, 2017 13:46
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
I think what gets me the most is that the Titanic is found in this tiny-rear end pond, not in the ocean. Also that you need Dive to find it because it is sunk already. 
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Apr 10, 2017 15:45
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Look, yes the game is stupid. Yes the writing is a trainwreck and it's obvious that the game was never playtested. Yes, the random Elizabethan theatrical sexism subplot being brought up and resolved in the course of a single gym battle is really stupid. But at the same time  I'm just saying. That has to be worth something
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HardDiskD posted:I think what gets me the most is that the Titanic is found in this tiny-rear end pond, not in the ocean. Also that you need Dive to find it because it is sunk already. They're wild in the oceans on route 12 as well.
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Apr 10, 2017 15:59
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titantice is good dramsama is bad
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Apr 10, 2017 16:02
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9/11's are found all over the place too I suppose. Hindenburg's can only be found in the safari zone I'm assuming this game has, and a rare Malaysian aircraft can sometimes be found in the ghost town. I'm joking about all of these but now I kind of have a morbid expectation for a game that features anthropomorphized national tragedies.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:They're wild in the oceans on route 12 as well. It takes away a bit of the magic, but still, a sea liner in a pond.
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Apr 10, 2017 16:29
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Isn't Drifblim kinda sorta already the Hindenburg?
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Apr 10, 2017 16:32
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Dramsama. Don't gently caress with me, assholes!
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Apr 10, 2017 16:37
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I feel like the Hindenburg pokemon would have to be fire/ghost or fire/flying. What typing is the Titanic pokemon? Ice and ??? or Mono Ice? Now I have the idea of a ghost ship pokemon in my head as a cool thing. I like Duplicat. It's not amazing, but it feels like it fits into the pokemon formula of "animal + pun"
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Apr 10, 2017 16:39
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I think this city used to have horrendous framerate problems. It turned out it was animating all the water all the time, including a load of tiles you can't even see. Anyway, Duplicat is cute 
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Apr 10, 2017 16:39
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How do you decide if a wild titanic ship is female or male?
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Oxyclean posted:
Ice/Steel
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Titanice is mono-ice. It should totally be ice/steel, that'd totally make it less sad.
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Titanic sank bow first. Titanice has a face on it's rear end.
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