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JD posted:I kinda think that Croix isn't evil, and has good intentions, but is using underhanded means to make changes happen It's been the case so far that no one is actually evil, they just have differing opinions of how things should go. I do hope this continues, it's a lot more interesting than "fight the bad guys because they are bad". Also Croix has the best character design, I love it so much.
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JD posted:So Croix and Chariot's personalities flipped at some point. Does that mean Diana might have fun someday? And Akko will read a book? It was a false flag operation!  Keeping in mind that it kind of is still a kid's show, so I imagine Croix's idea really is to accumulate or siphon away all the magic for some "nefarious" purpose like becoming god or using the Shiny Rod to summon Cthulhu or something. But you never know! Maybe Trigger will surprise me and Croix will have an actual nuanced point to make!
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Croix's probably just a tankie or something and the moral will be "ends don't justify means."
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Apr 10, 2017 16:52
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Dang commie witches
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My prediction is that Croix has innocent intentions but she'll lose control of her tech somehow and it'll all go haywire.
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Apr 10, 2017 17:11
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Wait for the ending being just a two-episode long John Galt speech.
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Music Theory posted:Croix's probably just a tankie or something and the moral will be "ends don't justify means." Couldn't help but notice that the fairy who got hospitalised was a scab.
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Tenebrais posted:My prediction is that Croix has innocent intentions but she'll lose control of her tech somehow and it'll all go haywire. innocent intentions that involve shoving students out of towers just to conveniently swoop in to save her
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Apr 10, 2017 18:29
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Futaba Anzu posted:innocent intentions that involve shoving students out of towers just to conveniently swoop in to save her Yep! I guess I mean noble goals. Whatever she's trying to do, she's not exactly doing it above board.
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Apr 10, 2017 19:18
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:trigger finally saved anime, huh? Well, I wouldn't say saved, but they made a drat fine anime show. Just retreading the show again, I really love how Diana made the absolute classic right-wing talking point - "You people should be glad that we [job creators] gave you jobs!" - and Akko loving called her on it for being a privileged snob who has no idea how the other half lives. It's rare to see that point made in any kind of media, no matter which side of the ocean you're on. Felt real cathartic.
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DrSunshine posted:Well, I wouldn't say saved, but they made a drat fine anime show. It's kind of amusing how they write Diana's reactions. Like, she's a genuine prodigy and really is cool and collected most of the time, but consequently on the few occasions she really does find herself out of her depth she completely loses her composure and flounders. She doesn't make mistakes very often, so she doesn't really know how to deal with it when she messes up or when she's in a situation where her skills don't count for much.
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i hope they treat croix like they treat diana i have faith in this show 
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Apr 11, 2017 00:14
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Fuckin' scab got what he had comin' if ya ask me.  poo poo like this is why I like Akko as the protagonist.
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:It's kind of amusing how they write Diana's reactions. Like, she's a genuine prodigy and really is cool and collected most of the time, but consequently on the few occasions she really does find herself out of her depth she completely loses her composure and flounders. She doesn't make mistakes very often, so she doesn't really know how to deal with it when she messes up or when she's in a situation where her skills don't count for much. Hey, that's a good point! It kind of illustrates really well how she's still pretty much a kid too -- that's the same kind of reaction that sheltered prodigies tend to have.
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Apr 11, 2017 01:11
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Maybe Croix really, really wanted that lab
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paragon1 posted:Fuckin' scab got what he had comin' if ya ask me. I liked the principle being proud of Akko's quick progress when they were at the negotiating table. They were just both so happy with how Akko was succeeding at something.
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I mean come on they could all get along. I think some traditions should be broken to give way to progress personally, so that magitech thingamabob could help with magic shortages considering it's a real problem at Luna Nova. I don't like the idea of Croix being a villain, but let's see what comes out of it. Andrew can still go gently caress himself though. 
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Somehow I'm not surprised Akko got manipulated into joining the dark side. Time for Chariot to find a new disciple, she should pick Amanda this time.
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Darox posted:Somehow I'm not surprised Akko got manipulated into joining the dark side. If Shiny Chariot gave up that easily, she'd probably have picked Amanda to begin with 
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paragon1 posted:Fuckin' scab got what he had comin' if ya ask me. also, why couldn't the witches have cut back on their magic some to feed he faeries? they're all p wasteful with it, to the point i was assuming being next to the philosopher's stone meant you had a near infinite source i would never have expected they were near overutilizing the drat thing already
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Condiv posted:also, why couldn't the witches have cut back on their magic some to feed he faeries? they're all p wasteful with it, to the point i was assuming being next to the philosopher's stone meant you had a near infinite source The way it works is basically as a continuously flowing water fountain connected to a pipe or some other water source. Witch and Faeries basically collect it as needed as it emanates out with the rest essentially splashing onto the ground or evaporating out. Croix is basically proposing collecting what would otherwise be wasted and storing it. Of course, this ignores the possibility that said "waste" actually helps the surrounding environment and helps it grow as opposed to uselessly flowing out.
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Apr 11, 2017 07:16
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Only took 12 episodes but the show's actually doing something with the plot.
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Me, I'm just counting down the episodes until Croix and Constanze start smacking the crap out of each other with giant magitech robots.
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So according to interviews with Yoshinari, LWA is an allegory for the Japanese animation industry, and he was worried that he made it 'too obvious' with the introduction of Croix. Huh.
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Darth Walrus posted:So according to interviews with Yoshinari, LWA is an allegory for the Japanese animation industry, and he was worried that he made it 'too obvious' with the introduction of Croix. Huh. Hmm, do you have a link? Sounds interesting to read!
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I liked the music they played for Croix. Nice touch on it.
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Apr 12, 2017 02:40
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Croix is CGI.
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DrSunshine posted:Hmm, do you have a link? Sounds interesting to read! I read the stuff about Croix second-hand on another forum, but the animation metaphor seems legit - Yoshinari mentioned it all the way back in the commentary for the first OVA.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Huh I can see that. Same, now it makes all the different animation styles in Lucy's dream more interesting.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Same, now it makes all the different animation styles in Lucy's dream more interesting. There are layers and layers of references to the animation industry in this show. For example, (William) Hanna and (Joseph) Barbera were an animation director duo who made Tom & Jerry, the Flintstones, and many other iconic series. I personally suspect that Diana is a reference to Disney: prestigious, seemingly perfect, and good at lawyering.
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sincx posted:There are layers and layers of references to the animation industry in this show. I suspect that despite the name-jokes, the actual character/personality references are much closer to home. Luna Nova is a Japanese animation studio as envisaged by the Trigger team - hidebound, decaying, and nepotistic, with more interest in rote learning of ancient techniques than in innovation, let alone flair and creativity. Diana is the favoured daughter from a good family who can work within the system, but it's still eating away at her soul.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Huh I can see that. its awesome! i wonder what the conclusion will be?
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:its awesome! i wonder what the conclusion will be? "Congratulations!" on a still screen.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:its awesome! i wonder what the conclusion will be? An embrace of both the new and the old together for the purpose, not of mere tradition or money, but for the continued inspiration and wonder that witches bestowed so long ago.
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Or the rich guy buys them out and they all spend the rest of their lives performing whatever tricks his marketing research says will move the most product.
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I look forward to the inevitable LWA-Shirobako crossover.
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I really liked the scene of Akko getting in Diana's face at the protest. I can just imagine any other show using that confrontation as an excuse to undo the climax of the previous episdoe and keep her as a boring snooty richgirl character for another 8 episodes, so having Akko be all "yo actually gently caress you" was pretty great They do that a lot with Diana, it's a small detail but one I really appreciate  Keeps her interesting
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There Bias Two posted:Croix is CGI. Croix's master plan in action.
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