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Keep in mind too that Marvel and DC have basically drawn on the same talent pool since day 1.Lurdiak posted:I remember one time this guy came into BSS and was like "DC is so much better at dealing with real life issues than Marvel!" and I was like lol
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Rhyno posted:Part of what drew me to Guy is that brash dickishness. Him being a massive dick but still always wanting to do the right thing sets him apart from most other heroes. That is kind of his appeal for me as well. He's kind of the "before" picture of a hero. He's Spider-man before Uncle Ben is shot, or Thor before he's forced into the body of an invalid. Except the only person he ever really seems to let down or have to live up to is himself. And he thinks he's awesome Lurdiak posted:I remember one time this guy came into BSS and was like "DC is so much better at dealing with real life issues than Marvel!" and I was like Real life issues like sudden violent limb loss.
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Lightning Lord posted:Keep in mind too that Marvel and DC have basically drawn on the same talent pool since day 1. That's not really true, the first almost decade of Marvel was just Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko bouncing ideas off each other. I know Kirby worked for DC eventually, but those three are more tied into the DNA of Marvel than anyone else and I don't think there's anyone with the equivalent legacy at DC. Simon and Schuster and Kane and Finger, maybe.
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Skwirl posted:That's not really true, the first almost decade of Marvel was just Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko bouncing ideas off each other. I know Kirby worked for DC eventually, but those three are more tied into the DNA of Marvel than anyone else and I don't think there's anyone with the equivalent legacy at DC. Simon and Schuster and Kane and Finger, maybe. Yeah good point. "Day 1" was probably a bad way to put it, more like after the Kirby/Ditko period. But my point was that people acting like DC and Marvel are totally different and never the twain shall meet are silly as gently caress. However, some creators did work for both, even back then - Gil Kane, for example.
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CzarChasm posted:That is kind of his appeal for me as well. He's kind of the "before" picture of a hero. He's Spider-man before Uncle Ben is shot, or Thor before he's forced into the body of an invalid. Except the only person he ever really seems to let down or have to live up to is himself. And he thinks he's awesome I'm one who adores his yellow ring era because of what a show-boating jerk he was. And the johns retcon for the G-jacket is the best. it stands for Girl-Magnet
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Skwirl posted:That's not really true, the first almost decade of Marvel was just Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko bouncing ideas off each other. I know Kirby worked for DC eventually, but those three are more tied into the DNA of Marvel than anyone else and I don't think there's anyone with the equivalent legacy at DC. Simon and Schuster and Kane and Finger, maybe. Julie Schwartz maybe, at least from the Silver Age onward.
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Lightning Lord posted:The best retcon is Alan Moore revealing that Swamp Thing is an elemental, not really Alec Holland. Hands down. Are you sure it wasn't Spiderman's marriage being nulled? (is it still a retcon if there's a really bad story explanation attached?)
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Selachian posted:Julie Schwartz maybe, at least from the Silver Age onward. Possibly Mort Weisinger too. Maybe Whitney Ellsworth?
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John Broome and Gardner Fox for sure. Probably Robert Kanigher too.Jordan7hm posted:Are you sure it wasn't Spiderman's marriage being nulled? (is it still a retcon if there's a really bad story explanation attached?) 
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Jordan7hm posted:Are you sure it wasn't Spiderman's marriage being nulled? No it loving well was not.
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Morrison's "What if Weapon X meant Weapon 10" was pretty cool.
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Elektra being an old flame of Daredevil was also a cool retcon. Agreed that Tim Drake gets the short end of reboots is also true, as his origin story was perfect but now who the hell knows.
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Retro Futurist posted:Morrison's "What if Weapon X meant Weapon 10" was pretty cool. Eh.
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Rhyno posted:Eh. That just seems like it was inspired by Alan Moore's "V" meaning 5.
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Retro Futurist posted:Morrison's "What if Weapon X meant Weapon 10" was pretty cool. It was apparently cool enough for someone at DC to do the same thing for Task Force X! 
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Retro Futurist posted:Morrison's "What if Weapon X meant Weapon 10" was pretty cool. That is probably the genesis of my love for Morrison. Also, have to second Rhyno on Guy with the yellow ring, and how Geoff Johns used him. Just reminded me he put a Michigan sticker on his lantern.
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What's the deal with Hickman's SHIELD? Is it ever going to be finished, and would I be annoyed if I read it in its current form but never got a conclusion?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:What's the deal with Hickman's SHIELD? Is it ever going to be finished, and would I be annoyed if I read it in its current form but never got a conclusion? It's still pretty cool, even though it retcons Galactus's first visit to Earth. 
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Doctor Spaceman posted:What's the deal with Hickman's SHIELD? Is it ever going to be finished, and would I be annoyed if I read it in its current form but never got a conclusion?
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I think Hickman made some vague noises about finishing it a couple of months ago on Twitter, for whatever that's worth.
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CapnAndy posted:I think Hickman made some vague noises about finishing it a couple of months ago on Twitter, for whatever that's worth. I think he was just trolling people because he said something along the lines of "It's finished, but will be delayed one week for every response demanding to know when it comes out."
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prefect posted:It's still pretty cool, even though it retcons Galactus's first visit to Earth. What did it change?
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Unmature posted:What did it change? Instead of Galactus first coming to Earth and being met by the Fantastic Four, it adds at least one earlier appearance, where some old scientist guy chased him off with an antique laser. Maybe Leonardo da Vinci, maybe Archimedes. 
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I mean, you can find stories going back to at least 2014 about him having turned in the last script, so really who knows what the holdup is at this point. I'm assuming Marvel just realized no one cares anymore.
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Retro Futurist posted:Morrison's "What if Weapon X meant Weapon 10" was pretty cool. I'm still waiting for them to do a "What if the X-Men are actually the 10 Men?" story
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I'm still waiting for them to do a "What if the X-Men are actually the 10 Men?" story Madrox had a mini.
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Skwirl posted:Madrox had a mini. LoL.
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Skwirl posted:Madrox had a mini. Don't you mean "Madroten"? I'll show myself out.
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Rhyno posted:I'm one who adores his yellow ring era because of what a show-boating jerk he was. And the johns retcon for the G-jacket is the best. GM Gardner! *Cult of Personality plays* Madkal posted:Elektra being an old flame of Daredevil was also a cool retcon. Tim gets the worst middle child syndrome. All the old stuff was about Dick. All the new stuff is about Damian. Jason is dead.
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One of the better side effects of DC's recent spate of reality rewrites is that Jason was never dead now.
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CapnAndy posted:One of the better side effects of DC's recent spate of reality rewrites is that Jason was never dead now. I'm pretty sure he was still dead he just got Lazarus Pit'd. Or did they change that?
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SonicRulez posted:Tim gets the worst middle child syndrome. So that's why he's my favourite.
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CapnAndy posted:One of the better side effects of DC's recent spate of reality rewrites is that Jason was never dead now. Are you sure because he still brings it up every other sentence
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I'm still waiting for them to do a "What if the X-Men are actually the 10 Men?" story Boom! has that license right now. 
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purple death ray posted:Are you sure because he still brings it up every other sentence
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CapnAndy posted:I was pretty sure? I thought the Joker just beat him up really bad. In the new issue he says he died.
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Rhyno posted:In the new issue he says he died.
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I blame you for talking about Jason Todd in the first place.
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I like Hal Jordan for two reasons: 1) Challenge of the Superfriends 2) Super Powers Action Figure
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