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*edit - poo poo, sorry, wrong thread! Gamepad for sure in this game
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Apr 10, 2017 06:24
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Romes128 posted:there's literally an evade button though? is there not a keyboard binding for it? let me describe square enix PC ports in general real quick:  the only question is if you can manage to avoid enough of the horrible porting issues to enjoy the underlying game there's a reason a fan-made patch is considered pretty important to have for NA
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Apr 10, 2017 06:32
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Has anyone else ever had Emil's first bossfight just randomly kill itself? I fought it like four times, and on the last try it just started taking insane amounts of damage for no apparent reason and the fight ended after about 6 seconds. ninja edit: also, is the XP bar bugged? it seems to take your ENTIRE XP into account in the amount left til next level, so the progress is always just a tiny sliver to the next level-up.
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Apr 10, 2017 10:08
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Tunahead posted:Yoko Taro became a thing when the zeitgeist caught up with him. Don't forget No More Heroes was doing something similar in 2007.
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Apr 10, 2017 11:03
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Alain Post posted:so when did Yoko Taro actually become like, "a thing", did Drakengard actually get a cult fanbase based on the insane protaginist, or was it after everyone seemed to like the writing in Nier (since Drakengard 2 only peripherally involved Yoko) I'm pretty sure the incredibly dull SE E3 2015 presentation being interrupted by the weird guy wearing an Emil mask is what initially caught people's attention. Since Cavia isn't a thing anymore, Taro was the big linking factor between the new game and the old, which wasn't much but it was enough to make people remember him. That combined with Nier's cult following freaking out over a sequel and Platinum Game's reputation for the very recent Metal Gear Rising got a lot of people hyped. I remember most gaming site's streams of that E3 had at least one guy who played Nier and was pumped to see a sequel announced, and completely separately other guys who had played Platinum's Games stuff were hyped over their involvement. So the hype culture surrounding games actually worked to Nier's benefit. Taro recently tweeted that he gained like 30000 followers in the last three months, so his popularity is very recent and pretty directly tied to Nier Automata, since that was around the time the demo dropped and the butt controversy happened. Also a bunch of interviews have happened where he had some entertaining anecdotes and he was streaming the game pretty regularly before that so anyone with even a little bit of curiosity would have heard about him before the game was out. From there word of mouth happens and he's now on his way to being the next Kojima/Suda 51.
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Apr 10, 2017 11:04
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SatansBestBuddy posted:he's now on his way to being the next Kojima/Suda 51. I'm actually a bit worried he's gonna get tangentially added to projects like Suda just to use his name for marketing. SINoALICE already feels like it's gonna be like that
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Apr 10, 2017 11:06
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Sakurazuka posted:I played and appreciated Drakengard before it was cool there is nothing to appreciate about drakengard outside of how much contempt it has for anyone who dares to even look at it
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Apr 10, 2017 13:29
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Apr 10, 2017 13:41
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Cardboard Box posted:there is nothing to appreciate about drakengard outside of how much contempt it has for anyone who dares to even look at it But I love it. I want more games to hate my guts for daring to play it
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Apr 10, 2017 13:58
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let me tell you about a little game called bubsy 3d
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Apr 10, 2017 14:06
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Heath posted:I thought The Bouncer predates it. The Bouncer doesn't (It was pre-merger), but Crystal Chronicles and Sword of Mana do.
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Apr 10, 2017 15:25
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Supremezero posted:The Bouncer doesn't (It was pre-merger), but Crystal Chronicles and Sword of Mana do. Squeenix didn't publish Crystal Chronicles, they developed it in conjunction with Nintendo, and Nintendo did the publishing
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Apr 10, 2017 15:55
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A couple hours into route C, and I managed to get ending 'O.' Twice. Once on purpose, and once because I didn't realize you were meant to stay in the hole until the hacking was complete. I wasn't trying to abandon the mission, I just thought it would be better to stay on the move!
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Apr 10, 2017 19:53
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Getting endings by accident is one of the things that make this game what it is. 
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Apr 10, 2017 20:07
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Zeerust posted:ninja edit: also, is the XP bar bugged? it seems to take your ENTIRE XP into account in the amount left til next level, so the progress is always just a tiny sliver to the next level-up. pfff, who needs it anyway? waste of good chip slots. You level when you level, seeing some dumb bar isn't going to change anything 
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Apr 10, 2017 20:15
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seriously, who needs to see how much xp they have?
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Apr 10, 2017 20:17
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I played with the XP chip for a while before realizing the healing numbers popping out of my head were always covering up the XP numbers anyway.
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Apr 10, 2017 20:18
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Mazerunner posted:pfff, who needs it anyway? waste of good chip slots. You level when you level, seeing some dumb bar isn't going to change anything oh, sure, I didn't even bother buying it this time after my last save where by the end I was pulling out as many HUD elements as I could reasonably afford to lose. It just seems to be a poor investment even by the standard of knowing how much XP you need to level up.
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Apr 10, 2017 20:21
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Zeerust posted:oh, sure, I didn't even bother buying it this time after my last save where by the end I was pulling out as many HUD elements as I could reasonably afford to lose. It just seems to be a poor investment even by the standard of knowing how much XP you need to level up. I actually never bought it, after getting burned by the fishing spots one, which as far as I can tell is the single most useless chip in the whole game.
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Apr 10, 2017 20:26
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Tunahead posted:Yoko Taro became a thing when the zeitgeist caught up with him. Drakengards story is choppy and kind of a mess, so missing it isn't crazy. It tries to do stuff but it doesn't do them very well
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Apr 10, 2017 20:26
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Speaking of useless HUD chips, what does the sound waves one even do? I had it equipped for a while assuming it would be useful somewhere, but apparently not.
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Apr 10, 2017 21:05
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Grand Spectacle Platinum End Bosses: Jubileus (Dea) Steven "Senator" Armstrong Jergingha (Planet Destruction Form) The words "Square Enix Co. Ltd." I was not prepared for the wringer that this game put me through. This thing is a testament to all that video games can be. I wonder if the Taro/Platinum partnership will continue. I hope it does and we get something completely new. I hope we get a project helmed by both Taro and Kamiya. I mean... come on. Nintendo and Microsoft have both played the "Give Hideki Kamiya a sack of money and a deadline and wait" gambit, Microsoft went and Microsofted all over theirs but we got The Wonderful 101 (and arguably Bayonetta 2) out of Nintendo's. Let's see Sony's!
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Apr 10, 2017 21:18
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You get one of those little volume bar graph things above your life bar. That's it. I left the fish chip installed because I assumed you couldn't fish without it. And then there's the Death Rattle chip which causes robots to scream when they explode after a hacking attempt. It's pointless, but tbh I like having the option to screw around with that stuff.
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Apr 10, 2017 21:23
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Finished ending C does it matter who I pick for the fight between A2 and 9S? Now trying to mop up some quests but I'm having some serious problems on that front like what is up with the Wise Machines and Pascals Old World Data collection quests? also holy balls this game tugs at my heart at times, such a bleak and depressing journey
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Apr 10, 2017 21:29
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Who you pick determines whether you get C or D.
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Apr 10, 2017 21:30
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Martout posted:Finished ending C does it matter who I pick for the fight between A2 and 9S? To answer your first question, yes. If you make the other choice, you get the other ending; choosing both moves directly into ending E after getting the second ending.
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Apr 10, 2017 21:31
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Saagonsa posted:Speaking of useless HUD chips, what does the sound waves one even do? I had it equipped for a while assuming it would be useful somewhere, but apparently not. I bought the mini-map HUD chip, then realized I had been duped, sold that chip. Worried myself that I had somehow sold both and then bought it again. So I had two again.  Chip system is bad. Good to know those chips are useless. I was THIS CLOSE to buying the fish one.
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Apr 10, 2017 21:35
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Look Sir Droids posted:I bought the mini-map HUD chip, then realized I had been duped, sold that chip. Worried myself that I had somehow sold both and then bought it again. So I had two again. Yeah it tells you when you can fish. Like, when you're next to a body of water. Maybe you wouldn't guess right off the bat that the pool of oil had fish in it? But I don't see how anyone wouldn't cast a line in their first thing they do.
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Apr 10, 2017 21:43
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CharlestheHammer posted:It tries to do stuff That's already enough to elevate it above a lot of the industry.
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Apr 10, 2017 21:52
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Martout posted:Finished ending C does it matter who I pick for the fight between A2 and 9S? Wise machines: hack em. There are three, although they aren't technically a 'quest'. They'll reset everytime you use chapter select even if you've done all three. Pascal thing: you know in speedstar's first race, you go up the big tree root that goes over/through a building? Inside that building there's a hacking chest ending spoiler for that quest you can turn it into pascal with no repercussions, but I think even more rewards, so do that
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Apr 10, 2017 22:15
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Look Sir Droids posted:I bought the mini-map HUD chip, then realized I had been duped, sold that chip. Worried myself that I had somehow sold both and then bought it again. So I had two again. . I don't think the chip system was the problematic part here. Also their cost - both slots and G - becomes entirely negligible rather early on. Not that that makes them any more useful of course. And "optimizing" out on the savepoint display chip royally hosed me in the Tower, which was genuinely hilarious.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:04
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Heath posted:Drakengard is the most miserable loving game Yeah. I mean I brought Drakengard when it first came out and loved the bleak tone and the details like the weapon stories, but let's not kid ourselves. Drakengard did not fail to sell because it was ahead of its time. It failed to sell because as a game it was a dull loving slog to play through.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:27
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gently caress YEEEEESSSSSS!! IT'S HERE! Let it be known that Sefal is now my favorite person on this forum.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:32
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Yeah. I mean I brought Drakengard when it first came out and loved the bleak tone and the details like the weapon stories, but let's not kid ourselves. Drakengard did not fail to sell because it was ahead of its time. It failed to sell because as a game it was a dull loving slog to play through. It was his best selling game until Automata
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Apr 10, 2017 23:48
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So I just found Iron Will lying on the ground there still relatively early on while trying out the Scanner function. Was I supposed to?
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Apr 10, 2017 23:52
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It's not a bug or anything, if that's what you're asking - that's where Iron Will is. You could have noticed it or not.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:55
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I think it's supposed to clue you in that you can find items all over the place if you use it, but it's the only important thing you'll need it to find, so unless you're really hurting for weapon materials, you don't need to worry about it the rest of your playthrough.
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Apr 11, 2017 00:03
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:I think it's supposed to clue you in that you can find items all over the place if you use it, but it's the only important thing you'll need it to find, so unless you're really hurting for weapon materials, you don't need to worry about it the rest of your playthrough.
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Mazerunner posted:Wise machines: hack em. There are three, although they aren't technically a 'quest'. They'll reset everytime you use chapter select even if you've done all three. that did the trick cheers, I knew about the wise machines thing but thought them coming back was a bug just one more quest in the chapters before the Grun fight but I have no clue which one, no red dots, no mail, nothing. guess I just have to run around until I find something 
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