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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Burning_Monk posted:

WHAT? And miss out on Michael Ironside being a dick to everyone? Bad advice, very bad advice.

Michael Ironside being awesome doesn't make up for how terrible 2032 was (and it was somehow worse than the second season).

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

FredMSloniker posted:

So, since more Star Trek is evidently not coming out soon, if ever, what other shows might scratch the TOS itch for me? And by that, I don't mean aping the appearance of a 60s TV show, but something where exploring space is an adventure, not (for instance) a desperate struggle for survival or just another way to make a buck. The whole 'boldly go' mission statement. It doesn't necessarily have to be airing right now, or even recently, and web content is also acceptable.

If you can deal with highly stylized anime, consider the older Captain Harlock series. The animation can be a bit rough sometimes, but on the other hand it doesn't have the annoying fanservice bullshit of newer series and the soundtrack is seriously boss.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Timby posted:

Michael Ironside being awesome doesn't make up for how terrible 2032 was (and it was somehow worse than the second season).

That series finale was also shockingly racist. If that was a sign of where they were taking the show then it really deserved to get put down.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

That series finale was also shockingly racist. If that was a sign of where they were taking the show then it really deserved to get put down.

Details? Was it to do with the super strong autist?

Railing Kill
Nov 14, 2008

You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.
Seaquest is one of those shows I remember liking when I was young, but I am afraid to watch again for fear it will ruin my fragile, dumbly innocent memories of it.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Rhyno posted:

Details? Was it to do with the super strong autist?

Basically it goes full-out Tom Clancy with Japan Panic.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Rhyno posted:

Details? Was it to do with the super strong autist?

No, it was the new antagonist confederation that was comprised entirely of SE Asians and were all depicted with terrible Orientalist stereotypes. At least, that's what I remember, it's been several years since I subjected myself to 2032.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

No, it was the new antagonist confederation that was comprised entirely of SE Asians and were all depicted with terrible Orientalist stereotypes. At least, that's what I remember, it's been several years since I subjected myself to 2032.

Wasn't the whole thing run by Michael York? Guess you have to have your British bad guy, it was the 90's after all.

Evek
Apr 26, 2002

"It's okay. I wouldn't remember me either."
No he was the leader of Evil Australia.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Burning_Monk posted:

Wasn't the whole thing run by Michael York? Guess you have to have your British bad guy, it was the 90's after all.

Token Posh-Sounding British Guy was an indispensable component of every 90s genre show (e.g. Stewart in TNG, Siddig in DS9, John Rhys-Davies in Sliders, Giles in Buffy etc.) but seaQuest gave things an unusual twist by having Token Posh-Sounding British Girl (Stephanie Beacham).

Remember when seaQuest had Mark Hamill as a blind astronomer who was actually a fugitive from an alien world? Me neither.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Wheat Loaf posted:

Token Posh-Sounding British Guy was an indispensable component of every 90s genre show (e.g. Stewart in TNG, Siddig in DS9, John Rhys-Davies in Sliders, Giles in Buffy etc.) but seaQuest gave things an unusual twist by having Token Posh-Sounding British Girl (Stephanie Beacham).

Remember when seaQuest had Mark Hamill as a blind astronomer who was actually a fugitive from an alien world? Me neither.

Oh man, that's an old crush. I also remember a British AI they used with a wall of steam? Man, that show was trippy-er than I thought.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
Alright guys, I'm bored and I've decided I'm going to do a Star Trek: Birth of the Federation Let's Play thread. I included a Poll so that anyone who cares to can determine which race I play as. There will be other votes in the future as well.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3816663

So get in there and vote, if you care to.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Q_res posted:

Alright guys, I'm bored and I've decided I'm going to do a Star Trek: Birth of the Federation Let's Play thread. I included a Poll so that anyone who cares to can determine which race I play as. There will be other votes in the future as well.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3816663

So get in there and vote, if you care to.

Cool, I've never seen the Cardassians in a play through of that so I've voting Spoonhead.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Michael Dorn is going to guest star in Discovery! :toot:

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Hopefully he can write an episode or five as well.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001



He'll end up in some terrible situation in a space battle and say "THAT'S IT, IF I HAVE A SON HE'LL BE A LAWYER, NOT A WARRIOR!"

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Nearly done with the 2nd book of 50 Year Mission, and was it common knowledge that Shatner almost ended up guesting on Enterprise as Mirror Kirk? I don't remember hearing that.

Apparently the original plan for the Enterprise Mirror Universe episode was to have the actual NX-01 from our universe end up in a pocket universe where apparently the Tantalus Field from 'Mirror, Mirror' sent people when they seemingly died. So Mirror Kirk is there and he tries to take over the NX-01 and escape. Shatner was onboard but wanted to get paid, and the studio didn't see the point of spending what Shatner wanted when the show was already wrapping up its run.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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FlamingLiberal posted:

Nearly done with the 2nd book of 50 Year Mission, and was it common knowledge that Shatner almost ended up guesting on Enterprise as Mirror Kirk? I don't remember hearing that.

Apparently the original plan for the Enterprise Mirror Universe episode was to have the actual NX-01 from our universe end up in a pocket universe where apparently the Tantalus Field from 'Mirror, Mirror' sent people when they seemingly died. So Mirror Kirk is there and he tries to take over the NX-01 and escape. Shatner was onboard but wanted to get paid, and the studio didn't see the point of spending what Shatner wanted when the show was already wrapping up its run.

I wonder how much extra career Shatner has Shatner'ed his way out of at this point?

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

He will not be a merry man.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!

Burning_Monk posted:

Cool, I've never seen the Cardassians in a play through of that so I've voting Spoonhead.

Well, good news, they're currently beating the Ferengi 6 to 5 in the vote. The other 3 races have 2 votes each. The Cardassians are my least played race, and suit my playstyle the least, so they'll be interesting for me too. Even if I'm not making all the decisions.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
I am so in for this.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!
OK, so given that Worf was a colonel by the time of Star Trek VI, he'll probably be fresh out of Klingon law school or something during this series.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Why can't Worf just go away? If there's "My son has no honor, he spends his days studying laws instead of the ways of Kahless" in Discovery, I'm done. He's the Hillary Clinton of Star Trek.

Railing Kill
Nov 14, 2008

You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.
Do we know Dorn is going to play Worf or anyone related to him? Maybe he'll play a Ferengi or something.

grilldos
Mar 27, 2004

BUST A LOAF
IN THIS
YEAST CONFECTION
Grimey Drawer
I was going to tell you to just look it up but looks like it's not happening.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

DirtyRobot posted:

You know bad stuff is going down if the Bajoran being spoken sounds like this:

Bajoran bajoran PAH-something. Bajoran bajoran PAH-something-or-other! PAH-something bajoran something!

Actually Sisko should have known bad stuff was going down because he has a universal translator in his ear and it should have sounded like this:
"Glory be to the Pah Wraiths! May the Pah-Wraiths bless this sacrifice as I stab you in the fuckin throat and feed them the Emissary's Pah."

We hear ancient Bajoran on the station all the time. A hundred years ago the translator was able to figure out the language of a horny cloud entity with no brain and a biology totally unlike our own in like 5 minutes, but seven years of church-Bajoran spoken on the station every Sunday morning and nothing?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Speaking of: here's my counter-infiltration plan for Star Trek. How about you have the computer tell you the source language when your translator is activated.

You call up the bridge to talk to the Vorta in charge of the ship: if the answer comes back in Bajoran, maybe a little pop-up should appear saying "This message was translated from an unexpected language: Bajoran. Language expected was Dominionese. Press to dismiss."


That would solve so many problems.

Orv
May 4, 2011
Star Trek technology security is basically installing deadbolts on linen closets. Yes, the towels are much safer, what about the horrifying eight foot death worm that wants to eat the children?

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


VitalSigns posted:

Actually Sisko should have known bad stuff was going down because he has a universal translator in his ear and it should have sounded like this:
"Glory be to the Pah Wraiths! May the Pah-Wraiths bless this sacrifice as I stab you in the fuckin throat and feed them the Emissary's Pah."

We hear ancient Bajoran on the station all the time. A hundred years ago the translator was able to figure out the language of a horny cloud entity with no brain and a biology totally unlike our own in like 5 minutes, but seven years of church-Bajoran spoken on the station every Sunday morning and nothing?
Maybe the universal translator knows the dramatically appropriate moments to leave something untranslated. Like every time Klingons shout.

Orv posted:

Star Trek technology security is basically installing deadbolts on linen closets. Yes, the towels are much safer, what about the horrifying eight foot death worm that wants to eat the children?
Sounds like you need to wash your linen more often. :stare:

Orv
May 4, 2011
That's just Texas.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

VitalSigns posted:

Speaking of: here's my counter-infiltration plan for Star Trek. How about you have the computer tell you the source language when your translator is activated.

You call up the bridge to talk to the Vorta in charge of the ship: if the answer comes back in Bajoran, maybe a little pop-up should appear saying "This message was translated from an unexpected language: Bajoran. Language expected was Dominionese. Press to dismiss."


That would solve so many problems.

Nana Visitor is super fine in the Starfleet uniform.

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


Orv posted:

That's just Texas.
Is Ted Cruz really eight feet?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Lord Hydronium posted:

Is Ted Cruz really eight feet?

If you're asking if he's some sort of spider creature, then yes.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Cojawfee posted:

If you're asking if he's some sort of spider creature, then yes.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Rhyno posted:

Nana Visitor is super fine in the Starfleet uniform.

Seriously. I like that the explanation for it was "well we don't want to offend the Cardassians so you should represent the Federation, not the Bajoran militia" instead of "hey how the gently caress are you going to skulk around and do hit-and-run resistancy things in those heels?"

And speaking of actresses looking better in uniform, Jeri Ryan


I don't understand the embarrassing catsuit-n-high-heels fetish of Star Trek producers. Visitor, Ryan, and Sirtis all looked better in the Starfleet uniform and it was way way less stupid.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Uh, did you even see the decon gel scenes?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

The decon chamber was at least honest about being porn.

And stupid as it was, it made more sense than the Kira traipsing through the wilderness in military-issue high heels whenever she decides to join the Bundy Shakaar ranchers and rebel against the Bajoran government for a little while.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


VitalSigns posted:

Speaking of: here's my counter-infiltration plan for Star Trek. How about you have the computer tell you the source language when your translator is activated.

...

That would solve so many problems.

There was a DS9 novel, I really don't remember which one as it's been 10+ years since I read any of them, where they found out the self-destruct code for Jem'Hadar ships was simply "self destruct". But you had to say it in the Jem'Hadar native language, which no outsider ever heard because they're engineered to just learn and use the languages of whatever aliens they interact with.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!
So Linda Park was the guest on the JV Club podcast last week. Not a ton of Trekchat, but she's a lot more interesting than Hoshi.

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




VitalSigns posted:

The decon chamber was at least honest about being porn.

And stupid as it was, it made more sense than the Kira traipsing through the wilderness in military-issue high heels whenever she decides to join the Bundy Shakaar ranchers and rebel against the Bajoran government for a little while.

I just wish they'd had Starfleet excursion uniforms. One thing Enterprise did right: they had a regular away mission uniform, a desert variant, an arctic variant...

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