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new phone who dis posted:Dude. It's a month old and it pre-dates the Susan Rice bullshit. And it's been overtaken pretty drastically by events. quote:It's the honest assessment of Obama and key Dem personnel with inside knowledge of the investigation. It doesn't even say what you think it's saying. All it says is that there's probably going to be no smoking gun, which isn't news. People with inside knowledge have been saying that for months.
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Applewhite posted:The "deep state" is not a real thing. And I'd take Pence or Ryan over Trump every day of the week. This is the worst post.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:04
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Blue Train posted:I feel like there are further implications than that when most people use it, as though they exert secret power and killed Kennedy etc They've illegally murdered tons of people and overthrown unfriendly governments across the globe. They currently have the entire populace under surveillance. It's pretty bleak without the JFK poo poo.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:04
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Majorian posted:And it's been overtaken pretty drastically by events. Which events? Do you think those guys didn't know about Carter Page? I'll bet you they did. If there's no smoking gun or evidence, why are we all wasting our loving time?
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Apr 12, 2017 04:06
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new phone who dis posted:Which events? Do you think those guys didn't know about Carter Page? I'll bet you they did. If there's no smoking gun or evidence, why are we all wasting our loving time? "No smoking gun" does not mean "no evidence." The evidence probably won't take Trump down, and I'm comfortable with that. Having him remain in power, hated by most of the country, but totally neutered as a political entity, is the best-case scenario.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:08
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new phone who dis posted:They've illegally murdered tons of people and overthrown unfriendly governments across the globe. They currently have the entire populace under surveillance. It's pretty bleak without the JFK poo poo. Oh definitely I'm not arguing any of that
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Apr 12, 2017 04:09
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Majorian posted:"No smoking gun" does not mean "no evidence." The evidence probably won't take Trump down, and I'm comfortable with that. Having him remain in power, hated by most of the country, but totally neutered as a political entity, is the best-case scenario. "But on Wednesday night, Morell appeared at an intelligence community forum to “cast doubt” on “allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.” “On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire at all,” he said, adding, “There’s no little campfire, there’s no little candle, there’s no spark. And there’s a lot of people looking for it.”
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Apr 12, 2017 04:10
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new phone who dis posted:"But on Wednesday night, Morell appeared at an intelligence community forum to “cast doubt” on “allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. That's Glenn "THIS IS THE NEW MCCARTHYISM!  " Greenwald editorializing. Morell's statement doesn't actually do that - just casts doubt on there being a clear smoking gun.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:10
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Applewhite posted:The "deep state" is not a real thing. And I'd take Pence or Ryan over Trump every day of the week. You need to make your trolls more subtle if you want people to respond
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Apr 12, 2017 04:11
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Majorian posted:That's Glenn "THIS IS THE NEW MCCARTHYISM! He's quoting him. Hence the quotes. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-ally-says-smoke-no-fire-no-russia-trump-collusion-n734176
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Apr 12, 2017 04:12
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new phone who dis posted:He's quoting him. Hence the quotes. Yes, but notice that not all of that was a quote. In fact, this part was Greenwald talking, not Morell: "But on Wednesday night, Morell appeared at an intelligence community forum to “cast doubt” on “allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.” Also, Morell hasn't been part of the IC since 2013, so no, he actually doesn't have insider knowledge at all.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:14
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:You need to make your trolls more subtle if you want people to respond he got like 4 people to respond to him and the entire last 2 pages are basically following that post
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Apr 12, 2017 04:14
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Blue Train posted:I feel like there are further implications than that when most people use it, as though they exert secret power and killed Kennedy etc Yeah I guess I'm just not up on the subtleties of the term. It just seems to me like one of those phrases like "alternative facts" and "fake news" that morons toss out to change the subject from the fact that our Commander in Chief is a blithering buffoon. Normal, rational person: "Oh, myGod, look at what an idiot Trump is. He is really loving things up in an undeniable way." Trump supporter: "B-b-but the Deep State and the banks!!" It's possible for two things to be bad!
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Apr 12, 2017 04:15
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Majorian posted:Yes, but notice that not all of that was a quote. In fact, this part was Greenwald talking, not Morell: "But on Wednesday night, Morell appeared at an intelligence community forum to “cast doubt” on “allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.” Watch the second video on that NBC story. James Clapper literally says "no evidence".
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Apr 12, 2017 04:17
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Who was the dumbass I was arguing with before Trump got elected who supported Trump because he believed Trump would keep us out of the Middle East? He told me he was a "certified genius" and was really looking forward to Trump "sticking it to the House of Lockheed-Saud." Anyway lol at that guy.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:17
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Applewhite posted:Yeah I guess I'm just not up on the subtleties of the term. It just seems to me like one of those phrases like "alternative facts" and "fake news" that morons toss out to change the subject from the fact that our Commander in Chief is a blithering buffoon. The entire idea is that they do what they want regardless of the outcome of elections which is pretty loving hard to counter at this point.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:18
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Blue Train posted:I feel like there are further implications than that when most people use it, as though they exert secret power and killed Kennedy etc More that they have their own agenda and exert significant influence due to their power and the secrecy which covers pretty much everything about then including their very existence. And the fact that they've worked very hard on ways to evade legislative oversight and even blatantly break the law
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Apr 12, 2017 04:18
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new phone who dis posted:Watch the second video on that NBC story. James Clapper literally says "no evidence". He said his office had no evidence; the FBI does not seem to be convinced that evidence does not exist. Thus them continuing their investigation. new phone who dis posted:The entire idea is that they do what they want regardless of the outcome of elections which is pretty loving hard to counter at this point. It's their job to investigate officials who collude with foreign adversaries. 
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new phone who dis posted:The entire idea is that they do what they want regardless of the outcome of elections which is pretty loving hard to counter at this point. Okay so then they seem like a separate problem?
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Apr 12, 2017 04:21
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:More that they have their own agenda and exert significant influence due to their power and the secrecy which covers pretty much everything about then including their very existence. And the fact that they've worked very hard on ways to evade legislative oversight and even blatantly break the law Everyone is talking about them so "covering up their very existence" isn't going so well.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:22
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I mean, poo poo, look at MK ULTRA. The only reason we found out about it is a clerical error that accidentally saved some of the files from being burned. Think of how much poo poo was successfully destroyed with no evidence
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Apr 12, 2017 04:22
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I mean, poo poo, look at MK ULTRA. The only reason we found out about it is a clerical error that accidentally saved some of the files from being burned. Think of how much poo poo was successfully destroyed with no evidence Yeah it's hosed up. Somebody should do something. Also, on a separate subject, somebody should do something about the fact that the most powerful man in the world is an egomaniac sociopath with the intellectual sophistication of a sixth-grader.
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:More that they have their own agenda and exert significant influence due to their power and the secrecy which covers pretty much everything about then including their very existence. And the fact that they've worked very hard on ways to evade legislative oversight and even blatantly break the law Yea that's fair
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Apr 12, 2017 04:23
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I mean, poo poo, look at MK ULTRA. The only reason we found out about it is a clerical error that accidentally saved some of the files from being burned. Think of how much poo poo was successfully destroyed with no evidence I think you're under the misimpression that anybody here is actually rooting for the IC, outside of them destroying Trump and Trump destroying them.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:24
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Applewhite posted:Everyone is talking about them so "covering up their very existence" isn't going so well. There are dozens of intelligence agencies, most of which even the names are classified
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Apr 12, 2017 04:24
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Applewhite posted:Who was the dumbass I was arguing with before Trump got elected who supported Trump because he believed Trump would keep us out of the Middle East? He told me he was a "certified genius" and was really looking forward to Trump "sticking it to the House of Lockheed-Saud." Anyone who thought this was going to happen is really loving dumb and I'm guessing we could go through the post history of every {even ironic} Trump supporter in this thread and they probably proclaimed something similar at some point Trump was only ever anti-war or interventionist when he didn't like the politicians who were driving it. Like literally every decision he makes politically lol his entire presidential career is based on how he can dig at people who have wronged him
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Applewhite posted:Everyone is talking about them so "covering up their very existence" isn't going so well. Nobody knows who half these groups actually are or what their activities are. In fact, it's possible that nobody know their full scope due to the highly compartmentalize nature of these programs and institutions
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Blue Train posted:There are dozens of intelligence agencies, most of which even the names are classified Yeah and there are dozens of carcinogens in our food and water supply and there are serial killers living among us in our neighborhoods. That doesn't mean we give up fixing the visible problems over which we have power.
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Applewhite posted:Yeah and there are dozens of carcinogens in our food and water supply and there are serial killers living among us in our neighborhoods. That doesn't mean we give up fixing the visible problems over which we have power. Yes, I get it. You hate Trump because he reminds you of your uncle that thinks you're a pussy. So #1 priority- destroy Trump
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Nobody knows who half these groups actually are or what their activities are. In fact, it's possible that nobody know their full scope due to the highly compartmentalize nature of these programs and institutions Okay well sounds like something I can't possibly verify is up to something that I'll never see.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:29
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Yes, I get it. You hate Trump because he reminds you of your uncle that thinks you're a pussy. So #1 priority- destroy Trump lol please explain to me how Trump is good and should be president. Lay it on me, bro. E: without using any variation of "Hillary would be worse." Applewhite fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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Apr 12, 2017 04:30
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Applewhite posted:lol please explain to me how Trump is good and should be president. Lay it on me, bro. His incompetence has generated a lot of laughs
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Apr 12, 2017 04:32
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Blue Train posted:His incompetence has generated a lot of laughs So did Steve Carell on the Office. I wouldn't want the fictional character Michael Scott to be POTUS.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:34
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Applewhite posted:lol please explain to me how Trump is good and should be president. Lay it on me, bro. They've stopped trying to even attempt that because it's impossible. They've actually started doing the trump thing of deflecting onto Hillary or Obama or anyone that isn't Trump and it's super obvious what's happening but it's still a pretty effective troll and I get mad like a retard about it
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Applewhite posted:Okay well sounds like something I can't possibly verify is up to something that I'll never see. Well according to the last batch if leaks, apparently they're asssasinating a whole lot of people with drones, created a way to secretly murder people in hospitals by hacking their life support, love wars, and oh they might have assasinated a journalist
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Applewhite posted:lol please explain to me how Trump is good and should be president. Lay it on me, bro. He should be president because he won the electoral college 
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Apr 12, 2017 04:34
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:He should be president because he won the electoral college ah ha ha. Damned by faint praise.
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Applewhite posted:lol please explain to me how Trump is good and should be president. Lay it on me, bro. He owned the Bush dynasty as well as horrible inhuman trolls like Ted Cruz. If we're lucky he might even end up taking down evil prick Paul Ryan, and just generally blowing up the Republican party Oh and he followed theough and cancelled the horrible bloated monster that the TPP had become
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Apr 12, 2017 04:38
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Applewhite posted:ah ha ha. Honestly Trump is really churning the waters man, he's getting us talking about a lot of poo poo that's been under the surface, take for instance, illegal surveillance on Americans.
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TRUMP: He certainly is a president! TRUMP: slightly less than half of all Americans can't all be wrong! TRUMP: TRUMP
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