Final Fantasy Megathread - People here, it sounds like sickness

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Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Varance posted:

Theatrythm AC update: Record Keeper is in, complete with a playable Tyro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs8WgSG25vo

Just release the drat game on the Switch or whatever SE.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 10:06

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# ? May 13, 2024 00:01

Szurumbur: Feb 17, 2011

loving Final Fantasy XV's OST does not have the third phase of the penultimate boss' theme, this is a travesty

# ? Apr 12, 2017 11:40

NikkolasKing: Apr 3, 2010

seiferguy posted:

Also, regarding battle music: the Breath of Fire series had several different regular battle themes depending on where you were in the game, which was a good way to do it.

This is another reason why I love XIII-2. It has several different battle themes and even a couple locations where the normal area music keeps playing during battle.

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Apr 12, 2017

# ? Apr 12, 2017 12:10

Saint Freak: Apr 16, 2007; Regretting is an insult to oneself; Buglord

Final Fantasy VII player gives life meaning by hitting level 99 before first boss
A lesson for us all

Two things in this world can make life meaningful: having the strength to forge your own destiny, to live by your own rules, and not be swayed by the whims and wishes of others; and really sticking it to some stranger on the internet. When Twitch streamer CirclMastr spent two years grinding through Final Fantasy VII to get Cloud and Barrett to level 99 before even facing the first boss, he achieved both.

As reported by Kotaku, this incredible, mind-numbingly boring feat was carried out in order to spite a single individual: an unknown user on a private forum named Dick Tree. Back in 2012, Dick Tree had claimed he would be able to hit level 99 in Final Fantasy VII without leaving the Sector 1 Reactor. But, at some point, Dick Tree stopped charting his progress, and CirclMastr decided to take up the task himself in 2015 � �to express,� he says, �my hatred, and more importantly my disdain, for Dick Tree.�

�I got fed up with waiting and, based on my track record of meaningless accomplishments, decided I could do the whole thing before he could bother to finish,� CirclMastr told Kotaku by email. Parts of this voyage were streamed on CirclMastr�s Twitch account, but you can see the final leveling take place at around 53 minutes below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APqQo8r-_UQ

In order to hit the level cap, CirclMastr estimates that he spent around 500 hours walking around the same few screens in the reactor; grinding through random encounter after random encounter against low-level enemies. To make matters more challenging, the whole enterprise was carried out on a PS1; meaning CirclMastr could not frame-skip or save whenever he pleased.

Some people have pointed out what a tremendous, tremendous waste of time this is. Others have applauded it for being so quintessentially human, to pile hundreds of hours into a task simply to show you can. CirclMastr, though, has his own response, and explained why he kept on grinding in a post on a private forum:

code:
Life does not have inherent meaning; to say that our lives are pointless and our achievements meaningless is to state the obvious. No matter how grand our achievements or how broad their scope, time turns all to dust and death destroys all memory. But that does not mean we cannot ascribe our own meaning to what we do. It is because nothing has meaning unto itself that we are free to create meaning, to make metaphor, and in doing so reflect on ourselves and our world.
Leveling to 99 in the first reactor is pointless and meaningless. So why do I do it? I do it to express my hatred, and more importantly my disdain, for Dick Tree. I do it to express the camaraderie I feel for those of us who have followed this topic for years only to be disappointed by [Dick Tree]. I do it to prove to myself that I can persevere. The act is meaningless; I give it meaning.
Truly inspiring.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:06

Gologle: Apr 15, 2013; The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3

No one would oppose me if I say that's autistic, right?

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:10

Captain Baal: Oct 23, 2010; I Failed At Anime 2022

No, that's a loving inspiration is what it is.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:12

Snow Cone Capone: Jul 31, 2003

Captain Baal posted:

No, that's a loving inspiration is what it is.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:17

Saint Freak: Apr 16, 2007; Regretting is an insult to oneself; Buglord

But...why?
OUT OF HATRED FOR A MAN NAMED DICK TREE

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:20

Lotus Aura: Aug 16, 2009; KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

Captain Baal posted:

No, that's a loving inspiration is what it is.

Only if he also reset for optimal level gains.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:20

morallyobjected: Nov 3, 2012

didn't that happen here?

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:23

Shoren: Apr 6, 2011; victoria concordia crescit

I saw that unfold initially on the forum CirclMastr frequents and I find it hilarious that he followed through with it.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:24

Vargatron: Apr 19, 2008; MRAZZLE DAZZLE

Surely he was doing something else at the time too. The game couldn't have held his rapt attention for the 500 hour grind.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:26

Ventana: Mar 28, 2010; *Yosh intensifies*

Can someone give the low-down on what kinda beef took place to inspire 500 hours of hatred vented through video game grinding

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:33

Snow Cone Capone: Jul 31, 2003

Ventana posted:

Can someone give the low-down on what kinda beef took place to inspire 500 hours of hatred vented through video game grinding

Ask anyone who did the full Relic and Anima weapon questlines in FFXIV :haw:

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:37

Pureauthor: Jul 8, 2010; ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

Ventana posted:

Can someone give the low-down on what kinda beef took place to inspire 500 hours of hatred vented through video game grinding

Some other guy (named Dick Tree) said he was gonna do it but welshed on the claim.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:37

Help Im Alive: Nov 8, 2009

Didn't some crazy french guy already do it years ago

# ? Apr 12, 2017 17:35

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Help Im Alive posted:

Didn't some crazy french guy already do it years ago

I don't know the nationality of the guy but yes, this has been done before

# ? Apr 12, 2017 17:41

Varance: Oct 28, 2004; Ladies, hide your footwear!; Nap Ghost

I'm... just going to leave this one here. Rose of May from FF9. It's arranged for Dissidia, so you know what to expect.

https://soundcloud.com/takeharu-ishimoto/arrange-from-final-fantasy-ix

# ? Apr 12, 2017 17:48

Pureauthor: Jul 8, 2010; ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

Varance posted:

I'm... just going to leave this one here. Rose of May from FF9. It's arranged for Dissidia, so you know what to expect.

https://soundcloud.com/takeharu-ishimoto/arrange-from-final-fantasy-ix

Technically, this isn't an arrange of Rose of May, but Something I Must Protect/Protecting my Devotion, the song that happens when Beatrix and Steiner are fighting the Mistodons in Alexandria.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 17:59

Varance: Oct 28, 2004; Ladies, hide your footwear!; Nap Ghost

Pureauthor posted:

Technically, this isn't an arrange of Rose of May, but Something I Must Protect/Protecting my Devotion, the song that happens when Beatrix and Steiner are fighting the Mistodons in Alexandria.

Same thing with different instruments, plus both are a part of the arrangement. Whenever this particular song is remixed, it's usually listed as Rose of May in English and Protecting my Devotion in Japanese.

Varance fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Apr 12, 2017

# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:32

zedprime: Jun 9, 2007; yospos

When FF9 came out I was talking with a kid who spent 20 hours grinding in the first forest because that's what he does for every FF release since 7 so he can just cruise through the story and it wasn't until I was older and wiser to do the double take where level grinding in 8 and 9 either makes the game harder or doesn't give you the benefits you need.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:40

NikkolasKing: Apr 3, 2010

Varance posted:

Same thing with different instruments, plus both are a part of the arrangement. Whenever this particular song is remixed, it's usually listed as Rose of May in English and Protecting my Devotion in Japanese.

By "Rose of May in English" do you mean the fan version by Erutan/katethegreat?

In any event, my favorite version of Beatrix' Theme is her boss theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBTG6rRaYo4&t=82s

I still don't think the name makes any sense though. She never expresses any doubt when kicking your rear end and killing tons of people.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:44

ACES CURE PLANES: Oct 21, 2010

Wow, goddamn. Grindy buttrock to start, snare interlude, a soft dissonant bridge on piano, a section where they pull the instruments back to focus on the vocal bit, and a key change guitar solo.

It's like someone slammed all my favorite musical touches together into a song I really like.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:44

Renoistic: Jul 27, 2007; Everyone has a
guardian angel.

Varance posted:

I'm... just going to leave this one here. Rose of May from FF9. It's arranged for Dissidia, so you know what to expect.

https://soundcloud.com/takeharu-ishimoto/arrange-from-final-fantasy-ix

What in the everloving hell did I just listen to?

# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:49

Snow Cone Capone: Jul 31, 2003

zedprime posted:

When FF9 came out I was talking with a kid who spent 20 hours grinding in the first forest because that's what he does for every FF release since 7 so he can just cruise through the story and it wasn't until I was older and wiser to do the double take where level grinding in 8 and 9 either makes the game harder or doesn't give you the benefits you need.

It was 9 too? I thought the whole level scaling thing was only in 8.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:49

Lotus Aura: Aug 16, 2009; KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

In 9 your stat gains are determined by the equipment you have on. That's why the absurd Excalibur 2 walkthrough is a level 1 game until the very end.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:51

Captain Baal: Oct 23, 2010; I Failed At Anime 2022

Renoistic posted:

What in the everloving hell did I just listen to?

It's rear end

Like I have not thought as poorly as most people here have of the other Dissidia arcade music, but turning that into a lovely metal cover is so bad

# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:50

mmkay: Oct 21, 2010

Entropy238 posted:

Has anyone here played FFIX on PC and found some kind of mod that improves the steal chances in the game? There seems to be rumours that the 9999 toggle increases steal chance to 100% but others say this doesn't work.

I don't want to go full 99 of everything but the stealing mechanics in this game are just broken. Also the learn abilities thing seems great.

I can cheat engine the timer for Excalibur 2 so that's not an issue.

Haven't found a mod, no (though I haven't been searching, to be honest). The 9999 toggle didn't work for me, so what I did was turn on the invulnerability and speed up toggles and watch Youtube on the other monitor. You still need to pay attention when fighting enemies that cast doom on you though.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:53

bloodychill: May 8, 2004; And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life; Exciting Lemon

The synth piano and butt-rock refrain wreck that track. I liked the metal and vocals.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 20:23

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Varance posted:

I'm... just going to leave this one here. Rose of May from FF9. It's arranged for Dissidia, so you know what to expect.

https://soundcloud.com/takeharu-ishimoto/arrange-from-final-fantasy-ix

oh my god

This is my new background music every time this thread gets another FF13 derail.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 20:40

seiferguy: Jun 9, 2005; FLAWED
INTUITION; Toilet Rascal

Once in a playthrough of FF6, I decided to use a turbo button on the Lethe river after switching Banon's health at the top and walked away at the loop. When I came back, my characters were at level 60. Having Terra know Firaga, Arise, and Holy in the World of Balance was cool, but the fact that all of my characters were so stat-depressed made for a really sad playthrough.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 20:40

DACK FAYDEN: Feb 25, 2013; Bear Witness

Saint Freak posted:

As reported by Kotaku, this incredible, mind-numbingly boring feat was carried out in order to spite a single individual: an unknown user on a private forum named Dick Tree. Back in 2012, Dick Tree had claimed he would be able to hit level 99 in Final Fantasy VII without leaving the Sector 1 Reactor. But, at some point, Dick Tree stopped charting his progress, and CirclMastr decided to take up the task himself in 2015 � �to express,� he says, �my hatred, and more importantly my disdain, for Dick Tree.�

Oh hey, that was a really old LUELinks topic. Back before it even namechanged to ETI.

...trap sprung, yeah yeah.

# ? Apr 12, 2017 21:15

Shoren: Apr 6, 2011; victoria concordia crescit

DACK FAYDEN posted:

Oh hey, that was a really old LUELinks topic. Back before it even namechanged to ETI.

...trap sprung, yeah yeah.

One guess on who wrote the original Kotaku article. It was Prism

# ? Apr 12, 2017 22:20

Fur20: Nov 14, 2007; すご▞い！
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね！

Dragonatrix posted:

In 9 your stat gains are determined by the equipment you have on. That's why the absurd Excalibur 2 walkthrough is a level 1 game until the very end.

Yeah but the gains are so marginal that it only affects gameplay if you really focus it down, like grinding Quina or Vivi to have high Spirit (which, incidentally, is really the only stat that's easy to grow on most characters--everything else is gonna have pretty disappointing returns), or Speed on Zidane so you don't have to steal as many times to max Thievery.

I think he means grinding AP for equipment skills, which are just as important as levels in that game.

# ? Apr 13, 2017 00:51

Varance: Oct 28, 2004; Ladies, hide your footwear!; Nap Ghost

Mega64 posted:

oh my god

This is my new background music every time this thread gets another FF13 derail.

Here's a 30 minute long version. Given how long the 13 derails get, you might want to save it for future use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv2fYvYG_X8

# ? Apr 13, 2017 00:52

Snow Cone Capone: Jul 31, 2003

My issue with that track is that the guitar playing the rhythm doesn't match the melody. Compare the original track, where the rhythm section actually complements the main melody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azX3Jfqfm_k

It's not like the rhythm part would have been tough to play on guitar, so I'm really left wondering why the heavy guitar is just playing the same chord over and over instead.

# ? Apr 13, 2017 00:59

Kalenn Istarion: Nov 2, 2012; Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Wow, goddamn. Grindy buttrock to start, snare interlude, a soft dissonant bridge on piano, a section where they pull the instruments back to focus on the vocal bit, and a key change guitar solo.

It's like someone slammed all my favorite musical touches together into a song I really like.

Here is my hot take:

It's only just barely OK and the singer being intentionally or unintentionally a bit off key is annoying

Captain Baal posted:

It's rear end

Like I have not thought as poorly as most people here have of the other Dissidia arcade music, but turning that into a lovely metal cover is so bad

There are good ways you could turn that song into metal, but that wasn't one of them

Kelp Me! posted:

My issue with that track is that the guitar playing the rhythm doesn't match the melody. Compare the original track, where the rhythm section actually complements the main melody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azX3Jfqfm_k

It's not like the rhythm part would have been tough to play on guitar, so I'm really left wondering why the heavy guitar is just playing the same chord over and over instead.

Because the arranger did a lovely job and it's meant to be a fanservicey song that will mostly get drowned out by sword slashes and poo poo

# ? Apr 13, 2017 01:33

DACK FAYDEN: Feb 25, 2013; Bear Witness

Shoren posted:

One guess on who wrote the original Kotaku article. It was Prism

I can't think of him without thinking of the time that the Dragon's Crown developer called him gay with a Facebook post of the shirtless Dwarf art when he criticized the incredibly sexist Sorceress art.

and I'm not surprised at all

# ? Apr 13, 2017 04:59

Elentor: Dec 14, 2004; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Saint Freak posted:

Final Fantasy VII player gives life meaning by hitting level 99 before first boss
A lesson for us all

Two things in this world can make life meaningful: having the strength to forge your own destiny, to live by your own rules, and not be swayed by the whims and wishes of others; and really sticking it to some stranger on the internet. When Twitch streamer CirclMastr spent two years grinding through Final Fantasy VII to get Cloud and Barrett to level 99 before even facing the first boss, he achieved both.

As reported by Kotaku, this incredible, mind-numbingly boring feat was carried out in order to spite a single individual: an unknown user on a private forum named Dick Tree. Back in 2012, Dick Tree had claimed he would be able to hit level 99 in Final Fantasy VII without leaving the Sector 1 Reactor. But, at some point, Dick Tree stopped charting his progress, and CirclMastr decided to take up the task himself in 2015 � �to express,� he says, �my hatred, and more importantly my disdain, for Dick Tree.�

�I got fed up with waiting and, based on my track record of meaningless accomplishments, decided I could do the whole thing before he could bother to finish,� CirclMastr told Kotaku by email. Parts of this voyage were streamed on CirclMastr�s Twitch account, but you can see the final leveling take place at around 53 minutes below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APqQo8r-_UQ

In order to hit the level cap, CirclMastr estimates that he spent around 500 hours walking around the same few screens in the reactor; grinding through random encounter after random encounter against low-level enemies. To make matters more challenging, the whole enterprise was carried out on a PS1; meaning CirclMastr could not frame-skip or save whenever he pleased.

Some people have pointed out what a tremendous, tremendous waste of time this is. Others have applauded it for being so quintessentially human, to pile hundreds of hours into a task simply to show you can. CirclMastr, though, has his own response, and explained why he kept on grinding in a post on a private forum:

code:
Life does not have inherent meaning; to say that our lives are pointless and our achievements meaningless is to state the obvious. No matter how grand our achievements or how broad their scope, time turns all to dust and death destroys all memory. But that does not mean we cannot ascribe our own meaning to what we do. It is because nothing has meaning unto itself that we are free to create meaning, to make metaphor, and in doing so reflect on ourselves and our world.
Leveling to 99 in the first reactor is pointless and meaningless. So why do I do it? I do it to express my hatred, and more importantly my disdain, for Dick Tree. I do it to express the camaraderie I feel for those of us who have followed this topic for years only to be disappointed by [Dick Tree]. I do it to prove to myself that I can persevere. The act is meaningless; I give it meaning.
Truly inspiring.

Someone leveled to 100 in WoW through herbalism, nothing surprises me anymore. I'm dead inside.

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# ? May 13, 2024 00:01

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

CirclMastr's a cool dude, posts in Let's Play a bit.

# ? Apr 13, 2017 10:05

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