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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Prorat posted:

After meeting with China, Trump used the Art of the Deal to get China to stop importing coal from North Korea.

China will now start importing coal from us.

Coal jobs ARE coming back with a bonus of reducing the trade deficit with China.

It's adorable that you think this will lead to more coal jobs for Americans.:allears:

e: Here, let me help you out.

Also this.

Majorian fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Apr 12, 2017

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Tallgeese posted:

One of these doesn't seem to belong...

It's the "I'm mad at dad" list

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

new phone who dis posted:

Well, I guess we can take your word for it or the word of a former CIA analyst.

:iceburn: :thurman:

Prorat
Aug 3, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Majorian posted:

It's adorable that you think this will lead to more coal jobs for Americans.:allears:

e: Here, let me help you out.

Also this.

I'm not clicking those links. They are probably more faux progressive nonsense. Since you are faux progressive scum.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Prorat posted:

I'm not clicking those links. They are probably more faux progressive nonsense. Since you are faux progressive scum.

Brookings.edu? Ivory tower liberal professors. Jew York times? Don't make me laugh

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014
Prorat is the real progressive, justice for billionaires.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Prorat posted:

I'm not clicking those links. They are probably more faux progressive nonsense. Since you are faux progressive scum.

Oh, okay, well, let me summarize for you then:

Coal jobs aren't coming back, you ignoramus. Automation and companies moving away from Appalachia are why there aren't any coal jobs there anymore.

Ape Fist
Feb 23, 2007

Nowadays, you can do anything that you want; anal, oral, fisting, but you need to be wearing gloves, condoms, protection.

Prorat posted:

I'm not clicking those links. They are probably more faux progressive nonsense. Since you are faux progressive scum.

:baby:

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Majorian posted:

Oh, okay, well, let me summarize for you then:

Coal jobs aren't coming back, you ignoramus. Automation and companies moving away from Appalachia are why there aren't any coal jobs there anymore.

Mr. Trump said them coal jobs would be back, and we'd make America Great Again

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

I would play along but at this point I honestly don't know if you are serious or not...

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Bholder posted:

I would play along but at this point I honestly don't know if you are serious or not...

I was not serious. Who knows. It'd be nice to have people with jobs again though. Actually I shouldn't even care because you can get so much stuff for your money these days its crazy. So anyone with a job is in good shape

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Can confirm, first job out of college was working for a local computer repair shop opened by a super republican who when he tried to pay me the checks bounced and he didn't reimburse me the charge. This happened multiple times.

This sounds eerily close to my small business experience.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I was not serious. Who knows. It'd be nice to have people with jobs again though.

Except they're not going to have jobs. This will not lead to more jobs for Americans.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Majorian posted:

Except they're not going to have jobs. This will not lead to more jobs for Americans.

Will lead to taxable revenues at least. The towns will get tax money from it. Its better than letting North Korea profit from it

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound
The idea that globalism and the extremely unbalanced trade agreements allowing outsourcing to the third world are an unavoidable reality we cannot escape is an idea deliberately pushed by corporatists on both sides of the aisle. The very fact that Trump won is a refutation of every supposedly unavoidable reality they've championed over the years and that's why their refutations have become more ardent and hysterical over the last few months. Unless you're some sort of gazillionaire, renegotiating poo poo like NAFTA and the TPP are undoubtedly good things for the average US worker. The fact that they were deliberately designed to be as painful as possible to withdraw from is just more proof of their malign intent. The uber-rich are hooked on trade deals that gently caress over the US and the average people pay the price so they can benefit.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

a bone to pick posted:

This sounds eerily close to my small business experience.

did he have an obsession with Apple and almost worship Steve Jobs?

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Majorian posted:

Oh, okay, well, let me summarize for you then:

Coal jobs aren't coming back, you ignoramus. Automation and companies moving away from Appalachia are why there aren't any coal jobs there anymore.

Thanks for the summary but we all followed the election and it's still pretty fresh in our minds

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Mordor She Wrote posted:

did he have an obsession with Apple and almost worship Steve Jobs?

Uhh unfortunately this was a few months ago and he was obsessed with Trump for the entire election year lol

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

new phone who dis posted:

The idea that globalism and the extremely unbalanced trade agreements allowing outsourcing to the third world are an unavoidable reality we cannot escape is an idea deliberately pushed by corporatists on both sides of the aisle. The very fact that Trump won is a refutation of every supposedly unavoidable reality they've championed over the years and that's why their refutations have become more ardent and hysterical over the last few months.

Yes, but that doesn't erase the fact that it's Donald Trump. He benefits directly from globalization. He's not going to renegotiate NAFTA, unless it makes him even more money. What, did you think he was going to cut into his business' revenue significantly just out of the goodness of his heart?

Toadvine posted:

Thanks for the summary but we all followed the election and it's still pretty fresh in our minds

Apparently not - people here actually think Trump is bringing coal jobs back.

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

Majorian posted:

Yes, but that doesn't erase the fact that it's Donald Trump. He benefits directly from globalization. He's not going to renegotiate NAFTA, unless it makes him even more money. What, did you think he was going to cut into his business' revenue significantly just out of the goodness of his heart?


Apparently not - people here actually think Trump is bringing coal jobs back.

this is the case for literally any politician besides bernie sanders who would have won, so thanks for being a shillbot i guess

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Majorian posted:

Yes, but that doesn't erase the fact that it's Donald Trump. He benefits directly from globalization. He's not going to renegotiate NAFTA, unless it makes him even more money. What, did you think he was going to cut into his business' revenue significantly just out of the goodness of his heart?


Apparently not - people here actually think Trump is bringing coal jobs back.

I think I get your stance. You hate Trump and everything he does will fail, but beyond that, he's a con man who will make things so bad that everyone will die of his idiocy. In general, any Republican is evil and greedy and they gently caress up everything. Correct?

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mnoba posted:

this is the case for literally any politician besides bernie sanders who would have won

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I think I get your stance. You hate Trump and everything he does will fail, but beyond that, he's a con man who will make things so bad that everyone will die of his idiocy. In general, any Republican is evil and greedy and they gently caress up everything. Correct?

yes

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010
automation!!! globalism!! climate change!! those jobs aren't coming back you retards!!

wait, how did we not win an easy seat in Kansas with trump's lovely poll numbers and the press sec dropping hitler truthbombs?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Mnoba posted:

this is the case for literally any politician besides bernie sanders who would have won, so thanks for being a shillbot i guess

Bernie definitely would have won. Anyone who didn't like globalization should probably have voted for him, because Trump sure as poo poo loves it.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Mnoba posted:

automation!!! globalism!! climate change!! those jobs aren't coming back you retards!!

wait, how did we not win an easy seat in Kansas with trump's lovely poll numbers and the press sec dropping hitler truthbombs?

Because there is no cure for the severe intellectual shortcomings that drive right wing voting patterns in the Midwest.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Mnoba posted:

automation!!! globalism!! climate change!! those jobs aren't coming back you retards!!

wait, how did we not win an easy seat in Kansas with trump's lovely poll numbers and the press sec dropping hitler truthbombs?

:laffo: at you thinking that Kansas seat was easy. It was a super-red district. The fact that a Dem did so well there shows how much Trump and Brownback are hated.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Democrats didn't turn out and lost the election, republicans turned out in roughly the same numbers as for romney

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Majorian posted:

Bernie definitely would have won. Anyone who didn't like globalization should probably have voted for him, because Trump sure as poo poo loves it.

They tried, but many of the biggest states had closed primaries and nobody had heard of him until after the deadline to register was already past

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

They tried, but many of the biggest states had closed primaries and nobody had heard of him until after the deadline to register was already past

So write him in. A lot of other people did. Point is, if you thought Trump would be less of a globalist or neoliberal than Clinton, you're dumber than even I thought you were.

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

Majorian posted:

:laffo: at you thinking that Kansas seat was easy. It was a super-red district. The fact that a Dem did so well there shows how much Trump and Brownback are hated.

trump is hated, but not enough for dems to win an election is going to be a common theme

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Mnoba posted:

trump is hated, but not enough for dems to win an election is going to be a common theme

Keep telling yourself that. Who knows, maybe Trump's approval rating will breach 45% again someday.:laugh:

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Majorian posted:

Yes, but that doesn't erase the fact that it's Donald Trump. He benefits directly from globalization. He's not going to renegotiate NAFTA, unless it makes him even more money. What, did you think he was going to cut into his business' revenue significantly just out of the goodness of his heart?


Apparently not - people here actually think Trump is bringing coal jobs back.

He already killed the TPP. You realize a lot of his businesses here in the US like his casinos do better when US workers have more money, right? He's not neck-deep in manufacturing like a lot of the other companies out there, and forcing other contries to compete with the US worker actually serves his own interests.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Majorian posted:

So write him in. A lot of other people did. Point is, if you thought Trump would be less of a globalist or neoliberal than Clinton, you're dumber than even I thought you were.

Primaries don't work that way

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

new phone who dis posted:

He already killed the TPP.

Yes, that's nice. I'm sure he'll get right on renegotiating NAFTA now.

quote:

You realize a lot of his businesses here in the US like his casinos do better when US workers have more money, right?

Doesn't matter. The fact that so many of his businesses have gone under should have demonstrated that to you by now. What matters is his bottom line, and he himself benefits from globalization, outsourcing, deregulation, etc.

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Primaries don't work that way

I was talking about the general election. What, do you think Trump ran in the Democratic primary?

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mnoba posted:

trump is hated, but not enough for dems to win an election is going to be a common theme

Hm maybe they should run a candidate who has some merits of their own?

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

Majorian posted:

Keep telling yourself that. Who knows, maybe Trump's approval rating will breach 45% again someday.:laugh:

it's at 47% i thought?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Mnoba posted:

it's at 47% i thought?

The average is 41.6%.

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Majorian posted:

I was talking about the general election. What, do you think Trump ran in the Democratic primary?

Oh ok you're just retarded then

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Oh ok you're just retarded then

Why, because I think writing Bernie's name in (or voting for Stein or lighting your ballot on fire) would have been a better use of their vote than voting for a globalist billionaire?

Because if so, I think it might just be you, goonsir, who is retarded.;)

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