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Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Dratinis used to spawn in nests so you could just spend the day at the park and catch like 40 of them. This is where a lot of people got their Dragonite(s).

Niantic changed it so they only randomly spawn now, making it significantly harder to get and basically requiring a tracker. That or get lucky with 10k egg hatches.

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Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
I got at least 3 Dratini hatches when they made Dratini "common" 10k eggs, but they all ended up under 75% IVs. Give me like 97.5% Nidorans, but go ahead and give me lovely as possible hatched Dratini why don't you.

Latest lucky egg spree were all duds when I was hoping for good movesets. Biggest disappointment of all was the Machamp because it got both steel moves when I want a really good fighter against Blisseys.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

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Yeah, in my city it isn't hard to go Dragonite hunting if you're willing to drive around a bit. Most of them have meddling IVs, but it's a Dragonite, and if it starts with a good CP, IVs don't matter much when you throw it into a gym.

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
Not if you don't care about being at the bottom of gyms when everyone puts in high CP things. You'll be the first to go when people start shaving you.

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.
Porygon are rare here, but repeatedly spawn in specific spots even over a longer period of time. This was true both in Amsterdam (water biome) and a mid size Belgian city with just one small river. I found a bunch of them over time, and then during the Valentine event they were pretty common (while Chansey was nowhere to be found). The dex says I got 21 of them in total. That said, I haven't seen any Porygon since gen 2 came out.

As for Dratini, I'm lucky to live in an area with lots of water where they are exceptionally common. If I was keeping an eye on a map constantly and wouldn't mind biking around all the time to their spawns, I could get like 10-20 in a few hours in the evening. Even if I don't use a tracker I'll often find one or two on my commute home. I have 13 Dragonite, 1 was caught (not in a water biome, they don't seem to appear there)
On the other hand, I only have one Larvitar and it came from an egg... They do not spawn here at all. Same for Chansey/Blissey. They're not even that common in gyms here.

Entropist fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Apr 12, 2017

Boywunda
Jun 25, 2003

Just finished walking my 96% Eevee for 10km. Evolved as.my buddy during the day.....Finally got my Confusion and Future Sight Espeon!!

Eyochigan
Dec 13, 2006

It's not rape unless I explicitly see it!
I love 2k eggs but drat.

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

"Here's the world famous hockey player sitting in the penalty box for slashing..."
-Snoopy Brown
42g - 65a - 107pts
106gp - 317PIMS

Willsun posted:

I got at least 3 Dratini hatches when they made Dratini "common" 10k eggs, but they all ended up under 75% IVs. Give me like 97.5% Nidorans, but go ahead and give me lovely as possible hatched Dratini why don't you.

Latest lucky egg spree were all duds when I was hoping for good movesets. Biggest disappointment of all was the Machamp because it got both steel moves when I want a really good fighter against Blisseys.

I've had nine Dratini hatched, seven I'm the past two months, and only one gas been in the highest percentile. I think even the hatches of those aren't typically great.

Divine Styler
Apr 8, 2005

quantum mechanic

Cowslips Warren posted:

You shut your mouth. Bitchfish is a bullet. Every bullet gets you closer to a machine gun Gyarados.

Hit two decent parks this weekend and can make a second Victrebell and 2 of the fully evolved Chikoritas. But until the weekend I am stuck with normal parks close to me, and let's see....Geodude, Meowth, and Qwilfish. Worthless. The only decent one is Shellder, about a half mile from my house, but it spawns maybe 1-2 an hour.

I wish less golf courses were nests. It always sucks to see a nest you need, then realize it's a golf course. None of the ones around here want to hold a POGO event.

I was vacationing on a golf course in Palm Springs, California this last weekend. It was a Goldeen nest, which obviously blew. But the weird thing was the clubhouse was a level 10 Valor gym, filled with 10 47CP Gastly. Each of the trainers looked the same and it was constantly battling. I used my wife's old Instinct account and cleared a spot for myself. Now it's 9 47CP and my 666CP Panphee

Datasmurf
Jan 19, 2009

Carpe Noctem
Hatched another batch of 10ks. 5 Gligars, one Mantine, and 2 sucky Skarmorys. :|

WTB something good from 10k eggs.

Sprite Based
Nov 13, 2004

dance dance sasquatch

Willsun posted:

Not if you don't care about being at the bottom of gyms when everyone puts in high CP things. You'll be the first to go when people start shaving you.

The gym situation is insane here in Japan. Because there's so few reliably held gyms, you get all the hardcore players shoving their best Pokemon into the same few gyms rather than actually trying to expand and take over new gyms. It's especially bad for my team (Instinct), but it holds true to a lesser extent to all teams. This wouldn't normally be a huge issue except that Dratini are pretty common here -- they're basically an uncommon spawn around rivers and beaches. I was at 0 Dratini candy after powering up a 95% IV DT/O Dragonite, but I'm back up over 200 less than two weeks later without even really trying (thanks, Pinap berries and 10k eggs).

As a result, gyms here start at 3150, and that's for the absolute bottom spot. By the end of the month, I expect that'll probably be closer to 3200. Shaving is incredibly common -- I had a 3173 ZH/BS Snorlax and a 3101 P/HB Blissey shaved off a gym today. Differences by as little as 10 CP can separate the top 5 players in a gym. There's no point to powering up anything that's not a high-IV Dragonite or Tyranitar. It's completely hosed and incredibly unfun.

I actually pulled the trigger on powering up a 97% IV Dragonite that I previously resisted powering up because it had the worst moveset (SW/HB). I feel especially bad for a guy I know because he powered up a bunch of high IV Snorlaxes, and now the best they can do is the third or fourth spot in the gym. It's actually incredibly counterproductive, too, since "gatekeeper" Pokemon (the things no one wants to have to fight, ie Snorlax and Blissey) are basically no longer gym viable if you want to last more than a day, which weakens gyms since you can now just stack ice attackers (and like one Machamp for enemy Tyranitars) and rip through an enemy gym pretty easily.

I really hope the gym rebalancing reworks combat, but also completely rethinks how gyms operate while adding some diversity. The CP system is garbage and so prone to abuse and manipulation that it makes me wonder how Niantic ever thought it was a good idea, even as a placeholder.

Sprite Based fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Apr 12, 2017

kxZyle
Nov 7, 2012

Pillbug
At this point I'm hoping for something other than gyms. NPC encounters perhaps. Anything more solo-friendly.

Coco Rodreguiz
Jan 12, 2007

Peckerhead isn't used enough as an insult if you ask me.
At the very least they should make it that the Pokemon kicked out of the gym is random instead of always the guy at the bottom.

That way the lower level players aren't constantly the ones being excluded from that sweet ten cents a day.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

Divine Styler posted:

I was vacationing on a golf course in Palm Springs, California this last weekend. It was a Goldeen nest, which obviously blew. But the weird thing was the clubhouse was a level 10 Valor gym, filled with 10 47CP Gastly. Each of the trainers looked the same and it was constantly battling. I used my wife's old Instinct account and cleared a spot for myself. Now it's 9 47CP and my 666CP Panphee

24 Cp Kadabra with Confusion is a OHKO on 47 Gastly , i.e., the new bubblestrat

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

Coco Rodreguiz posted:

At the very least they should make it that the Pokemon kicked out of the gym is random instead of always the guy at the bottom.

That way the lower level players aren't constantly the ones being excluded from that sweet ten cents a day.

This would make it easier to take down gyms though

Coco Rodreguiz
Jan 12, 2007

Peckerhead isn't used enough as an insult if you ask me.

No Safe Word posted:

This would make it easier to take down gyms though

Which would let the majority of people who don't min-max and have a full arsenal of 3000+ Dragonites actually be a part of the gym scene.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Coco Rodreguiz posted:

Which would let the majority of people who don't min-max and have a full arsenal of 3000+ Dragonites actually be a part of the gym scene.

For approximately 15 minutes.

Coco Rodreguiz
Jan 12, 2007

Peckerhead isn't used enough as an insult if you ask me.

Julio Cruz posted:

For approximately 15 minutes.

That's better than the zero a lot of people get. The vast majority of people don't get to do anything in a gym. Especially if they picked the unpopular team in their area.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

Coco Rodreguiz posted:

That's better than the zero a lot of people get. The vast majority of people don't get to do anything in a gym. Especially if they picked the unpopular team in their area.

https://pokemongohub.net/easter-event-leak-week-double-xp-better-egg-hatches/

So this may or may not be a thing. Double XP for the next 7 days ish maybe, and more common drops for "ultra rare" egg hatches.

This the week after I hatch a Miltank randomly.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Great throw!
*breaks out*
Great throw!
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Great throw!
*breaks out*
Excellent throw!
*breaks out
Great throw!
*breaks out*
Normal throw
Captured!


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Mechanical Fiend
Sep 5, 2011

How'd that asshole get a white robe?!

AirRaid posted:

https://pokemongohub.net/easter-event-leak-week-double-xp-better-egg-hatches/

So this may or may not be a thing. Double XP for the next 7 days ish maybe, and more common drops for "ultra rare" egg hatches.

This the week after I hatch a Miltank randomly.

I've got to clear out nine 10km eggs goddammit

They'd better have an incubator sale or something

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Even picking the most popular team in your town can be troublesome if all the gyms in your area are level 10 and you don't have a method of shaving it down.

My girlfriend and I are on opposite teams (I'm valor, she's mystic), so we sometimes shave for each other. I know this is looked down upon in the community, but holy hell there's no other way to get into gyms. At least we aren't running two accounts at the same time!

voodoorootbeer
Nov 8, 2004

We may have years, we may have hours, but sooner or later we push up flowers.
I was just kidding about casino biomes; I have no idea if that's a thing or not. Didn't you have to buy Porygon at the casino in red/blue for some ungodly sum?

Pretty sure I know the answer to this before I ask but I should power up a low IV Zen headbutt/body slam Snorlax before any non-body slam high IV Snorlax of the same level, right?

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

I would say so, unless that ZH/BS is like 20% or something.

Also my wishlist for gym revamp:
-remove CP
-Turn based
-Gym AI can now pick 6 Pokemon from its 10 to try and counter your line up. This should encourage teams to put a diverse range of Pokemon in each gym.

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

"Here's the world famous hockey player sitting in the penalty box for slashing..."
-Snoopy Brown
42g - 65a - 107pts
106gp - 317PIMS
I think the last update had some code about raids, so I wouldn't be surprised if some gyms required co-op, or to catch a legendary it requires several trainers throwing balls or battling.

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

voodoorootbeer posted:

I was just kidding about casino biomes; I have no idea if that's a thing or not. Didn't you have to buy Porygon at the casino in red/blue for some ungodly sum?

Pretty sure I know the answer to this before I ask but I should power up a low IV Zen headbutt/body slam Snorlax before any non-body slam high IV Snorlax of the same level, right?

Depends on the IVs but it's generally better to go for the highest max cp since if you level up a low IV body slam snorlax it will still be near the bottom of the gym and it will get knocked out sooner and your teammates will hate you because it's so hard to train against.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Personally I'd like them to come up with a way so that gyms aren't always the same drat pokemon. I'm tired of only seeing Dragonites, Snorlaxes, Rhydons, Gyrados and Vaporeon there with a sprinkle of Tyranitar and Blissey.

Maybe come up with a factor that diversifying your gym makes it stronger.

Quabzor
Oct 17, 2010

My whole life just flashed before my eyes! Dude, I sleep a lot.

Away all Goats posted:

I would say so, unless that ZH/BS is like 20% or something.

Also my wishlist for gym revamp:
-remove CP
-Turn based
-Gym AI can now pick 6 Pokemon from its 10 to try and counter your line up. This should encourage teams to put a diverse range of Pokemon in each gym.

One good/interesting idea I've heard thrown around quite a bit is to have the gyms be taken over by Team Rocket periodically and have them reset. Then there aren't gyms that sit one color for months at a time.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Quabzor posted:

One good/interesting idea I've heard thrown around quite a bit is to have the gyms be taken over by Team Rocket periodically and have them reset. Then there aren't gyms that sit one color for months at a time.

This is a great idea, and I would also be down with turn based. The only advantage of the current system is it is decently quick, which I guess would be a big deal for a location based game.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
Maybe a trainer can only have 1 of each species in a gym?

Or each gym can only have 1 of each species defending it?

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
To this day everyone is still just as divided on wanting gyms to be easier or harder to defend. Some people were super happy that training prestige took twice as long in one of the old updates, and then some people want gyms to be harder to take down by having more spots.

seiferguy posted:

Personally I'd like them to come up with a way so that gyms aren't always the same drat pokemon.

I've been saying this forever, but if the gym battling system is gonna be this lovely, why not make all Pokemon have around the same CP? I'm not being sarcastic, I just want it so that people might as well put the flavor of their favorite Pokemon in gyms if they're all so prone to this lovely system of abuse. If people are free to put in diverse selections without worrying about being totally worthless in CP, people would have to change up type advantage a lot more and make the battling system more challenging and not nearly as much brainless tapping.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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~Coxy posted:

Maybe a trainer can only have 1 of each species in a gym?

Or each gym can only have 1 of each species defending it?

The former would make it impossible to realistically collect from more then 4 or so gyms at a time, and the latter would make it impossible to hold a gym and would make prestiging them into an absolute waste of time.

I dunno what they should do for gym battles, but I do agree the current way it works is poo.

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