Josef K. Sourdust posted:

Yeah, having heard more about the Bri case I'm definitely out of that. The podcast is good but what happened to her is just too horrible and sad. Superficially it sounded like something comparable to MM but actually it is clearly a drug-related abduction and murder. Even the private investigator who heard the details was shocked. Poor Bri.

chernobyl kinsman posted:

what about the case makes it seem like that? her wiki article doesn't have much besides the car in the barn & i dont know much about it otherwise.

Solice Kirsk posted:

That seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to for a simple snitch beef. She had to have owed money (probably not since they usually don't kill you right away for that) or done something more (stealing from a drug dealer will get you killed in pretty short order, for example). Then again, maybe they were just crazy, but it seems weird that all that detail is "known" but there's nothing about it I can find online besides you saying its buried in some multi hour podcast somewhere. Got a link for the episode at least?

Solice Kirsk posted:

Yeah, I tried listening to it and found it incredibly amateur. Made it through the first episode and like 10 minutes into the second. I think a good producer could salvage the show, but it's not for me. Not to mention when I skipped ahead a couple episodes to "Stranded" they started out talking about how they want her dad to keep them in check so that they do the right thing...then immediately segway into how much more bonding they would have done if they had dinner with her dad over Blue Apron, and it would have been delicious and more affordable too.

Thanks for the link and info though. I'm sure it's in there, but I'm not digging through several hours of that to try and find it.

xoFcitcrA posted:

Been marathoning Forensic Files based on the recommendations a few pages back and HOLY COW is it my imagination or do 90% of all of the criminals on that show have a moustache? Like, the same exact cop moustache? Did everyone look like that between 1980-2000 and I just never noticed, or was it just mostly rapists, molesters, murderers, arsonists, and cops?

Anyway, I knew I remembered the story of Howard Unruh's rampage from somewhere in my childhood. A little Google reveals that it was because there was a comic book depiction of it in an issue of Dark Horse Presents. It has some fun artwork by Gary Barker.

whiteyfats posted:

I like watching Cold Case files, with Bill Kurtis's soothing voice. The worst ones are when they have pretty good drat idea who did it, then have to wait a decade for technology to catch up to find DNA or somebody to talk before they can make an arrest.

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I miss American Justice. It's on some channel I don't get now.

FrozenVent posted:

City Confidential had the best narrator of all the crime shows, and I'm sad there aren't more of them.

FrozenVent posted:

City Confidential had the best narrator of all the crime shows, and I'm sad there aren't more of them.

xoFcitcrA posted:

Been marathoning Forensic Files based on the recommendations a few pages back and HOLY COW is it my imagination or do 90% of all of the criminals on that show have a moustache? Like, the same exact cop moustache? Did everyone look like that between 1980-2000 and I just never noticed, or was it just mostly rapists, molesters, murderers, arsonists, and cops?

pookel posted:

I don't know about the '90s, but there's a particular kind of scraggly little mustache that all sex offenders seem to have. We used to joke about it at the newspaper where I worked, that you could tell which mugshots were sex offenders.

Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:

Kind of like there are two kinds of cops: bald cop with Oakleys or mustache cop.

pookel posted:

I don't know about the '90s, but there's a particular kind of scraggly little mustache that all sex offenders seem to have. We used to joke about it at the newspaper where I worked, that you could tell which mugshots were sex offenders.

Not-so-funny story: I had two friends over the years who grew that same kind of mustache. One guy later had a rape charge dropped down to something lesser because they couldn't prove it, but it definitely involved a drunk woman and suspicious circumstances, and the other one is currently in prison for actually molesting a kid.

Moey posted:

Moey posted:

quote:

According to the TAU, last year there were 345 attacks resulting in 70 deaths — the highest death toll since 2008. In 2015 there were 318 attacks resulting in 64 deaths, and the year before there were 277 attacks resulting in 67 deaths.

In total, between 1998 and the end of 2016, 1848 people have been murdered in farm attacks — 1187 farmers, 490 family members, 147 farm employees, and 24 people who happened to be visiting the farm at the time.

While South Africa has one of the highest rates of violent crime anywhere in the world, the attacks on white farmers are no ordinary crimes.

...

While sometimes farmers and their families are tortured to obtain information, such as the whereabouts of keys to the safe, human rights groups say the excessive brutality may be intended to send a message to the general farming community — get out of our country.

Victims are often restrained, harmed with weapons such as machetes and pitchforks, burned with boiling water or hot irons, dragged behind vehicles and shot. Female victims are often raped during attacks.

...

In 2010, high-profile ANC member Julius Malema sang “Shoot the Farmer, Kill the Boer”, which Genocide Watch describes as “once a revolutionary song, but now an incitement to commit genocide”.

Malema was convicted for hate speech and the singing of the song was banned, but just seven months later president Jacob Zuma sang the song himself at an ANC event, in direct contempt of the judge’s ruling.

Mercury Ballistic posted:

Anyone listening to the Shittown podcast? It is from TAL/Serial crew and deals with small town stuff. Kind of like Exit Through the Gift Shop, it starts in one direction and veers off abruptly.

Phanatic posted:

Jesus. You couldn't pay me enough money to be a white farmer in South Africa right now:

http://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...ate/news-story/

Grand Gigas posted:

I honestly can't bring myself to feel bad for Boers.

quote:

LAST month, British woman Sue Howarth and her husband Robert Lynn were woken at 2am by three men breaking into a window of their remote farm in Dullstroom, a small town in the northeast of South Africa, about 240km from the nearest capital city.

The couple, who had lived in the area for 20 years, were tied up, stabbed, and tortured with a blowtorch for several hours. The masked men stuffed a plastic bag down Mrs Howarth’s throat, and attempted to strangle her husband with a bag around his neck.

The couple were bundled into their own truck, still in their pyjamas, and driven to a roadside where they were shot. Mrs Howarth, 64, a former pharmaceutical company executive, was shot twice in the head. Mr Lynn, 66, was shot in the neck.

Miraculously he survived, and managed to flag down a passer-by early on Sunday morning. Mrs Howarth, who police said was “unrecognisable” from her injuries, had multiple skull fractures, gunshot wounds and “horrific” burns to her breasts.

“Sue was discovered amongst some trees, lying in a ditch,” writes Jana Boshoff, reporter for the local Middelburg Observer newspaper. “Her rescuers managed to find her by following her groans of pain and then noticing drag marks from the road into the field.

“Her head was covered with a towel. Her eyes were swollen shut. She was partially clothed with just scraps of her shirt remaining. Her breasts and upper body was bloody. The plastic bag, shoved down her throat, took some effort to remove because her jaw was clamped down tightly.

“How she managed to breathe with the bag in her throat remains a mystery. One of her rescuers later recalled how Sue was unresponsive except for the constant groaning. Whilst the man ran back to the road to see if an ambulance has not arrived yet, she managed to curl one of her arms around her breasts in a last attempt to protect herself.”

She was rushed to hospital and placed on life support, but died two days later.

Solice Kirsk posted:

A mustache is basically a balaclava for your upper lip.

Grand Gigas posted:

I honestly can't bring myself to feel bad for Boers.

Mercury Ballistic posted:

Anyone listening to the Shittown podcast? It is from TAL/Serial crew and deals with small town stuff. Kind of like Exit Through the Gift Shop, it starts in one direction and veers off abruptly.

Avshalom posted:

my rear end in a top hat has a moustache and it's a cold hard criminal

Pick posted:

The "Buried Alive" episode of Vanity Fair Confidential is the most horrific episode of any of these crime shows I've ever seen.