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Live for the ecomutants, AceOfFlames. You are their best hope.
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If the climate apocalypse means I can't read or post in this thread anymore, then it was totally worth it.
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Apr 12, 2017 23:53
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Chadzok posted:Just kill yourself AceofFlames. You will be helping the climate and solving all your problems. Take some fossil fuel lobbyists down with you. Can we try not to say this to someone who appears to be chronically depressed?
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Apr 13, 2017 00:03
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If he donated his organs and ceased his production of carbon he would be saving lives and making a contribution to the climate change effort. Who are you to judge?
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Apr 13, 2017 00:23
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Climate Change: Just kill yourself.
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Apr 13, 2017 00:27
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I'm reading the Mars Trilogy right now, by KSR, and it's fascinating to see how prescient he was regarding the future of earth while writing it back in the early 1990's. Really nailed how the 21st century would pan out, with a few embellishments for story, of course. Really made me sad that I'll be too old and completely unskilled to get aboard Mr. Musks Wild Ride if it ever takes off.  This is more on topic for the climate change thread than discussing what someone chooses to do with their organs, you dumb fucks.
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climate change is super depressing but really its just our generations insane existential threat. the last generation had nuclear winter, the one before that spent most of their adult lives murdering one another by the millions, the one before that would have starved if not for the green revolution. another one or two before that here in the U.S. just loving butchered each other savagely to *improve* the situation w/slavery. the ones before that dealt with famine all the time. before them, the plauges and poxes. the species will survive. life on earth will survive. its just a question of what the bodycount will be for the lessons we need to learn.
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Uh that's a pretty fuckin weak comparison. The solution to the cold war was "hey one of these states doesn't really have what it takes to not fall apart, so we don't have to worry about the world exploding anymore." and the solution to climate change is "gently caress you there's no solution I hope you've got the money to ride this poo poo out because 99% of people don't and the world is going to be a hosed to death flaming pile of garbage for generations upon generations to come." Nobody in this or any other thread thinks that climate change is going to make humans extinct, that's a stupid fuckin metric to judge how bad a situation is.
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Apr 13, 2017 03:01
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StabbinHobo posted:climate change is super depressing but really its just our generations insane existential threat. the last generation had nuclear winter You are out of your god drat mind if you think nuclear winter is no longer an existential threat.
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Apr 13, 2017 03:13
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StabbinHobo posted:the last generation had nuclear winter, the one before that spent most of their adult lives murdering one another by the millions, the one before that would have starved if not for the green revolution. another one or two before that here in the U.S. just loving butchered each other savagely to *improve* the situation w/slavery. the ones before that dealt with famine all the time. before them, the plauges and poxes. Life is poo poo inherently because reasons. Like, humanity mystically has to have an existential enemy, because the Universe Wills It and Thats The Way It Is. Aspire not to higher things, mortal; stoicism is the way.
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TIL: Climate change is not going to increase the threat of a nuclear exchange between resource marginalized superpowers in any way. Not at all. JFC. Humans really are poo poo at threat analysis these days. Was it bred out deliberately, or is it a conscious choice to be so blind to cause and effect?
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Apr 13, 2017 03:19
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You are suggesting comfort in the pattern of generational existential crises. What is the rhetorical use of such a statement if not to excuse these recirrent crises? Do you understand that you are trying to excuse tragedy?
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enraged_camel posted:You are out of your god drat mind if you think nuclear winter is no longer an existential threat. good point my point was that there has always been something to freak out over, get depressed about, and wallow in.
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Rime posted:TIL: Climate change is not going to increase the threat of a nuclear exchange between resource marginalized superpowers in any way. Not at all. Evolution can't respond in 100 years to the threats of industrialization. We're machines that are designed from top to bottom to consume, gently caress, and kill. What do you want from us? An ecological renaissance isn't going to happen out of ideology or hopefulness.
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Humanity's existential enemy is itself, when you get right down to it.
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Salt Fish posted:Evolution can't respond in 100 years to the threats of industrialization. We're machines that are designed from top to bottom to consume, gently caress, and kill. What do you want from us? An ecological renaissance isn't going to happen out of ideology or hopefulness. Not all of us are brainless mensch's like the sovereign motorcyclist. We don't need to "evolve" out of this, we just needed to be slightly thoughtful.
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Apr 13, 2017 03:32
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StabbinHobo posted:good point So long as this is truly the extent of your point, that's fine.
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Gotta stay positive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIYyhIfH6Qo
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Salt Fish posted:Evolution can't respond in 100 years to the threats of industrialization. We're machines that are designed from top to bottom to consume, gently caress, and kill. What do you want from us? An ecological renaissance isn't going to happen out of ideology or hopefulness. Pffft. It has nothing to do with evolution, and if anything the evolution has been that (thanks to industrialization) we no longer require adequate critical thinking and threat analysis in our daily lives if we want to survive long enough to breed. People can't grasp the long term ramifications of blowing their paycheque at the strip bar every week let alone that we're closer to a nuclear exchange today than we ever were at the hieght of the cold war, despite the evidence being right there in front of them to read and digest.
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Rime posted:we're closer to a nuclear exchange today than we ever were at the hieght of the cold war, despite the evidence being right there in front of them to read and digest. uh no not yet, anyway. Maybe next week?
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:uh no We did drop a MOAB today though so I guess that mountain had it coming.
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Any conference talk recommendations about strategy and planning around the implications of climate change, especially worst-case outcomes? Talks about Iceland looking to capitalize on Arctic shipping, geostrategic implications of global food/water shortages, etc.
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Accretionist posted:Any conference talk recommendations about strategy and planning around the implications of climate change, especially worst-case outcomes? The National Adaptation Forum is coming up, I think. If you're looking for more Dark Mountain kind of poo poo apparently most of that is happening in England and Arizona/New Mexico. Google your way. Edit: misread your question. I can't honestly think of anything like that that isn't just another talking head going "so we need to act!" So many talks at confrerences are still in the mode of "I'm informing you of the problem" rather than "The problem is yesterday's news, what about tomorrow?", if you know what I mean.
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Accretionist posted:Any conference talk recommendations about strategy and planning around the implications of climate change, especially worst-case outcomes? No that stuff is all going on sub rosa.
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Extent and area are pretty comparable to past years, but one big thing isn't - volume: https://twitter.com/ddimick/status/852476136726638592 Yikes. Takeaway is that there is much thinner ice all the gently caress over. Evil_Greven fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Apr 16, 2017 |
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I'm looking forward to this year's minimum. Climate Change: The Greatest Show on Earth
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Apr 16, 2017 07:36
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Evil_Greven posted:Extent and area are pretty comparable to past years, but one big thing isn't - volume: I'm reading that extents and area are at record minima. Am I reading something wrong? https://sites.google.com/site/arctischepinguin/home/global-sea-ice
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Apr 16, 2017 09:35
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Potato Salad posted:I'm reading that extents and area are at record minima. Am I reading something wrong? That's global. Here's ice extent for just the Arctic: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/
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Potato Salad posted:I'm reading that extents and area are at record minima. Am I reading something wrong? There's no comparison between volume; it's vastly lower.
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Well, remember a little bit back where there was a projection for another El Niño year this year? I was watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXNaNXwWvmk To be fair, the projection is lower now, but the chart in the presentation caught my eye. About 17:30 in, there's a a projection from February for it... note the y-axis: Evil_Greven fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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This one hasn't popped up yet: Receding glacier causes immense Canadian river to vanish in four days quote:An immense river that flowed from one of Canada’s largest glaciers vanished over the course of four days last year, scientists have reported, in an unsettling illustration of how global warming dramatically changes the world’s geography. 
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According to the study, they think it's likely that increased erosion in the river the glacier is now discharging to will eventually connect it back to the Slims. e: Just rechecked after reading the study yesterday and erosion is expected to connect the river to the lake the Slims drained into, not the Slims itself. Hello Sailor fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Scorching March brings Arctic temperatures up to 20°F warmer than normal. 7,000 massive methane gas bubbles under the Russian permafrost could explode anytime. Just another card in the stack.
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Rime posted:Scorching March brings Arctic temperatures up to 20°F warmer than normal. 7,000 massive methane gas bubbles under the Russian permafrost could explode anytime. I was telling one of my coworkers about the methane gas bubbles and he goes "that's awesome, i hope it happens soon and Russia gets hosed!!!" 
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Apr 19, 2017 21:57
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This world will have ended in nuclear war before we see the worst of global warming.
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Mercrom posted:This world will have ended in nuclear war before we see the worst of global warming. inshallah
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I like to watch this video to take my mind off of climate change https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZ3LGfSMhA
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Rime posted:Scorching March brings Arctic temperatures up to 20°F warmer than normal. 7,000 massive methane gas bubbles under the Russian permafrost could explode anytime. it's like watching some space exploration sci-fi scenario except it's unfolding in real life. like some grunt on a big rear end spaceship is staring down at a poor alien planet saying "Sir, the Clathrate Gun is ready to fire on your mark."
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call to action posted:I like to watch this video to take my mind off of climate change Goddamn, this noise scared the poo poo out of me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZ3LGfSMhA&t=3270s
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Rime posted:Scorching March brings Arctic temperatures up to 20°F warmer than normal. 7,000 massive methane gas bubbles under the Russian permafrost could explode anytime.  something's a bit off with their colour scale. they need to extend the reds out, 12.1 should be closer to 'black death' than 'hot chilli red'
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