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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

They should keep making dimensions sized sets though, I love the minifigs+mini build setup.

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Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Target Bogo40% till 4/15

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


All these major brands failed so hard trying to capitalize on that Skylanders action.

Pyroclastic
Jan 4, 2010

veni veni veni posted:

All these major brands failed so hard trying to capitalize on that Skylanders action.

Well, none of the Toys to Life things are doing great; the fad's coming to a close. Skylanders had the advantage of basically being first (there was something called UB Funkeys first, but I never heard of them). But they've been around 6 years now, and the fatigue is setting in. A game every year, and the new figures are incompatible with the previous games (although old figures generally worked in newer games).
Disney's advantage was their enormous stable, but they didn't really seem to do enough with it (it was like 75% Marvel and Star Wars). Three games, and the same forward/backwards compatibility issues as Skylanders.
Nintendo had the stable and popularity, but they don't really do all that much with Amiibo in their games. However, they aren't necessarily tied to specific games, and may even patch in compatibility (such as with Animal Crossing). Nintendo was helped that until recently, there were never much in the way of good Nintendo toys or figures available outside of Japan.
Lego realized that physical Lego and the TT games were absolutely made for each other and it was natural to make Dimensions. Problem is they showed up 4 years into the Toys to Life craze, at a high price point, and with a confusing set of requirements for unlocking things within the game (nearly 100 different abilities spread around the entire line, sometimes requiring a specific set to unlock). It let Lego get some unusual partnerships for stuff they'd probably never consider for full lines, like A-Team, Goonies, or Portal (I still want a large-scale GlaDOS).
Playmation was a Disney/Hasbro thing that was mobile-only and meant to get the kids further away from a screen. Always seemed to shelfwarm, and was killed after a year.

They all suffered from the problem of collections growing unreasonably large as time goes on, and only Lego avoids the 'no use outside of the game besides looking at them' trap. Dimensions stuff can get mixed into the Lego tub.

Speaking of mixing into the Lego tub, I saw this Lego Chess Set at the Lego store today. $55, and 1450 pieces! That's a ridiculously good price:part ratio!

Dr. Benway
Dec 9, 2005

We can't stop here! This is bat country!

Davros1 posted:

I've said it before, but I wish Lego could license out Indiana Jones and do new, non-movie, sets. Something like Johnny Thunder, but with Indy.

LEGO City has a jungle theme coming out this summer.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Pyroclastic posted:

Well, none of the Toys to Life things are doing great; the fad's coming to a close. Skylanders had the advantage of basically being first (there was something called UB Funkeys first, but I never heard of them). But they've been around 6 years now, and the fatigue is setting in. A game every year, and the new figures are incompatible with the previous games (although old figures generally worked in newer games).
Disney's advantage was their enormous stable, but they didn't really seem to do enough with it (it was like 75% Marvel and Star Wars). Three games, and the same forward/backwards compatibility issues as Skylanders.
Nintendo had the stable and popularity, but they don't really do all that much with Amiibo in their games. However, they aren't necessarily tied to specific games, and may even patch in compatibility (such as with Animal Crossing). Nintendo was helped that until recently, there were never much in the way of good Nintendo toys or figures available outside of Japan.
Lego realized that physical Lego and the TT games were absolutely made for each other and it was natural to make Dimensions. Problem is they showed up 4 years into the Toys to Life craze, at a high price point, and with a confusing set of requirements for unlocking things within the game (nearly 100 different abilities spread around the entire line, sometimes requiring a specific set to unlock). It let Lego get some unusual partnerships for stuff they'd probably never consider for full lines, like A-Team, Goonies, or Portal (I still want a large-scale GlaDOS).
Playmation was a Disney/Hasbro thing that was mobile-only and meant to get the kids further away from a screen. Always seemed to shelfwarm, and was killed after a year.

They all suffered from the problem of collections growing unreasonably large as time goes on, and only Lego avoids the 'no use outside of the game besides looking at them' trap. Dimensions stuff can get mixed into the Lego tub.

Speaking of mixing into the Lego tub, I saw this Lego Chess Set at the Lego store today. $55, and 1450 pieces! That's a ridiculously good price:part ratio!

I also think Lego/ Disney faced the problem of there not always being crossover between the people who wanted the toys and the people that wanted the game content. Not to mention Star Wars/marvel probably doesn't have a huge toy appeal with the existing over saturation of better toys from both.

Skylanders, along with being the original had a built in expectation that the toys go with the game.

There's a bunch of dimension toys I want but I never wanted to pay the premium for the content in a game I'm not going to play.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

There's no reason to buy the dimensions toys at full price either because they get massively discounted eventually. I got a bunch of the Benny ones for like $3 a piece at a bargain store.

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
I own most of the Dimensions content and the most I've paid for any of it was half price. It was massively overproduced.

Pyroclastic
Jan 4, 2010

Lego's really improved their Dragon builds over the last few years. I bought all the first-run Ninjago dragons, and they were pretty good. I haven't really gotten any of the dragons with brick-built heads, so I can't really comment on them, but I just finished building the Elves set 41183 The Goblin King's Evil Dragon, and it's pretty great. Tail and neck are fully ball-jointed, and its wings have two ball joints each, which I think is unique. Unlike the rest in the line, it's bipedal and balances well. Plus it's got a good assortment of yellowish green parts.
I'm a little annoyed that I apparently missed buying the set with the purple dragon, which is now out of print and most sellers are at 2x retail already.

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

Pyroclastic posted:

Lego's really improved their Dragon builds over the last few years. I bought all the first-run Ninjago dragons, and they were pretty good. I haven't really gotten any of the dragons with brick-built heads, so I can't really comment on them, but I just finished building the Elves set 41183 The Goblin King's Evil Dragon, and it's pretty great. Tail and neck are fully ball-jointed, and its wings have two ball joints each, which I think is unique. Unlike the rest in the line, it's bipedal and balances well. Plus it's got a good assortment of yellowish green parts.
I'm a little annoyed that I apparently missed buying the set with the purple dragon, which is now out of print and most sellers are at 2x retail already.

How does it compare to the one piece green dragons from the 80s/90s that had the crocodile heads?

SomeJazzyRat
Nov 2, 2012

Hmmm...

veni veni veni posted:

I also think Lego/ Disney faced the problem of there not always being crossover between the people who wanted the toys and the people that wanted the game content. Not to mention Star Wars/marvel probably doesn't have a huge toy appeal with the existing over saturation of better toys from both.

It's true. I've heard anecdotally that in order to get approval for the Marvel series of Infinity figures, Marvel themselves strong armed the Infinity team to make toys/characters for characters like Iron Fist and Nova and other characters that just didn't sell.

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

Lego City Jungle looks awesome! That big 800 piece adventure set will be a blast.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
I really want that plane crash set so I can play Air Disasters.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Cloks posted:

I own most of the Dimensions content and the most I've paid for any of it was half price. It was massively overproduced.

You can get the portal 2 and Simpsons level packs for under $10 which is good deal just for the pieces

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
I want the spotted kitty and nothing else.


I miss printed baseplates. And mountain baseplates.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


What set is that? That's really cool.

That Lego City jungle theme seems really disappointing in the actual "jungle" dept.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Beachcomber posted:

I want the spotted kitty and nothing else.


I miss printed baseplates. And mountain baseplates.



I'm sure that's the set I had as a kid. It was awesome. Gimme monkeys, coins and chests!

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Honestly, I would love the hell out of this if I was a kid. I kinda like it now, honestly. It's got Audrey II! And a kitty! :3:

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

It just seems weird to have it under the City theme of all things.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Well its obviously the Lost City.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

City seems to be their go-to line for any kind of real-life stuff. See also the volcano and arctic sub-lines.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
if it's got fairly detailed car and vehicle builds that might work in real life(I.E. not mecha-horses or robo-dragons) it's probably gonna wind up as a City line/set

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Has anyone ever seen commentary from lego why baseplates don't get used anymore? Did they find that kids weren't actually building cities anymore, or are they too expensive to include in sets or something?


I like that little waterfall in the set.. but it just dumps into nothing. It really deserves a printed baseplate with a river on it. :colbert:

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

It seems to have happened with their move away from large specialised moulded pieces, a la Rock Raiders, for presumably the same reasons.

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Molded base plates are good

BURPs are bad


The Time Chasers base set I think has 7 loving BURPs

gently caress BURPs.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

xzzy posted:


I like that little waterfall in the set.. but it just dumps into nothing. It really deserves a printed baseplate with a river on it. :colbert:

This one also has a waterfall piece, so maybe you're supposed to join them together?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Yeah, all my old castle walls are relegated to their own bin so I never have to look at them (or worse, paw through them because they hurt).

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

That mobile lab truck actually looks pretty good. Got some mass to it and looks realistic. Almost reminds me of a smaller scale model team vehicle.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
When did City start breaking the 'all cars and trucks are 4 studs wide' rule that was in place for my entire childhood. I gotta say the new City vehicles are mighty nice now that they're usually 6 and sometimes 8.

I'm a bit peeved that most of them are still single occupant. You can do side by side with a little bit of effort and the use of offset plates. Two figs can fit perfectly across 5 studs. Add actual Lego car doors or something else that isn't an entire stud wide for the sides of the cabin and it fits like a charm.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

xzzy posted:

Has anyone ever seen commentary from lego why baseplates don't get used anymore? Did they find that kids weren't actually building cities anymore, or are they too expensive to include in sets or something?

My guess is because they require bigger set boxes.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

While 4 stud vehicles are cute, they really limit what you can do with a build. The new vehicles look way better and have way more variety than they used to.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Aren't all the road baseplates designed around 4 stud vehicles?

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
That's fine that just means they're euro streets. *is the biggest car on the road, a Renault Scenic*

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




I'm visiting Minnesota (from Aus) so figured I should probably buy some LEGO while I'm here because it's way cheaper than in Aus. Went to the LEGO store at Mall of America and while it's probably a bit cheaper than in Australia, I can't help but think that there's probably cheaper elsewhere. Does LEGO store usually have more expensive stock than normal toy stores or whatever?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I never could quite place my finger on what makes modern big “exterior“ sets seem so incomplete, but yeah it's definitely the lack of baseplates.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

There's nothing quite like laying out all your street plates on the big table in the basement and spending your summer building the most epic city you can imagine.

Then your mom gets tired of it and makes you take it apart and put it away. :mad:

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Chairchucker posted:

I'm visiting Minnesota (from Aus) so figured I should probably buy some LEGO while I'm here because it's way cheaper than in Aus. Went to the LEGO store at Mall of America and while it's probably a bit cheaper than in Australia, I can't help but think that there's probably cheaper elsewhere. Does LEGO store usually have more expensive stock than normal toy stores or whatever?

Lego store is msrp 99% of the time. Target and Walmart might have some stuff on sale. Never go to Toys r us, they mark things up over msrp.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
As I posted a couple days ago, Target is Buy one Get one 40% off right now. That's a solid deal and could add up to big savings if you bought, say, two 100 dollar items.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Seems like that R2D2 Polybag would be fitting for May the 4th....

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The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Feenix posted:

Seems like that R2D2 Polybag would be fitting for May the 4th....

It is like you are psychic or something!

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