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Ur Getting Fatter posted:I enjoyed that post friend Its not janky 
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post about janky old android security!
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apseudonym posted:Its not janky It's non existent
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jre posted:It's non existent 
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Oh have they finally fixed the problem of 99.9% of android devices never getting an update security or otherwise once they leave the factory ? I must have missed that.
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jre posted:Oh have they finally fixed the problem of 99.9% of android devices never getting an update security or otherwise once they leave the factory ? Oh come on, they usually get at least 1 update.
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cast iron oven or something https://www.pentestpartners.com/blog/iot-Aga-cast-iron-security-flaw/ i dont evenquote:However, the mobile app communicates over plain text HTTP. The Android app explicitly disables certificate validation through use of ALLOW_ALL_HOSTNAME_VERIFIER. Even if it did offer SSL, it would thus be trivial for rogues to intercept and modify traffic.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:cast iron oven or something https://www.pentestpartners.com/blog/iot-Aga-cast-iron-security-flaw/ i dont even gsm modem module costs many times a wifi chip so the "it's cheap" reason is actually wrong. additionally, on the carrier side you can configure sims to only be allowed to communicate with certain endpoints on a private network that cannot leave hat carrier so it's actually possible for sms to be deployed somewhat securely; assuming your cell phone carrier has done its job unfortunately that modem will stop working in the not so distant future. 2g service is already mostly gone in the us
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hobbesmaster posted:2g service is already mostly gone in the us wrong, the only carriers doing 2g shutdown in the us are at&t (who will have their network completely shut by about june), and a few minor local regional carriers. there's also a few territories that were sold from cdma carriers to gsm carriers or vice versa after 3g was out, and which thus never had 2g service installed by the new carrier. all other carriers don't plan to shut down 2g gsm/cdma until 2020.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I admit it, I have an Aga. Before I get a tonne of stick for energy inefficiency, I drive electric cars, have solar thermal panels and heat the house using a log boiler (that also has a Wi-Fi interface, more on that another time though). yes, the reason people laugh at you for owning an internet-enabled turn of the century stove is because of the efficiency
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cinci zoo sniper posted:cast iron oven or something https://www.pentestpartners.com/blog/iot-Aga-cast-iron-security-flaw/ i dont even quote:Tekelek have a history in remote monitoring of oil storage tanks, heating systems, process control and medical devices among many things. These appear to be monitored using SMS, so I wonder where else this bizarre unauthenticated text messaging process might lead… well that's fun
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they could be relying on their mvno to handle all that for their other applications. this is how twilio for example makes money. ...but knowing how secure iot stuff is probably not
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not really a sec fuckup but i think corporate espionage still counts https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/13/uber-hell-program-lyft-drivers/
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Dex posted:remote monitoring of oil storage tanks did you know hackers was a documentary?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:cast iron oven or something https://www.pentestpartners.com/blog/iot-Aga-cast-iron-security-flaw/ i dont even quote:AGAs have recently been criticised for their high energy consumption and inefficiency.[2] A small, traditional two-oven AGA running on gas will use approximately 425 kWh per week (22,100 kWh per year; perhaps half that if switched off during the summer months). The average standard gas oven and hob uses 580 kWh during a year, only 2.62% of the AGA's consumption.
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hobbesmaster posted:they really want an LTE only network as soon as possible. of course that'll only occur after cat-m1 and nb-iot are deployed. This is happening by the way. https://solutionslab.vzw.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/10736379_WP_Persistent_Prefix_IPv6_V1c_chi.pdf I don't know enough about IPv6 to know if it is a good idea or not though.
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it's bad but the fix was backported to the 3 branch back in February 2016, so most systems should be okay unless you're on the rackspace cloud, though, we found out today that their stock system images that are being bootstrapped today are shipping 2 years out of date kernels 
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cinci zoo sniper posted:cast iron oven or something https://www.pentestpartners.com/blog/iot-Aga-cast-iron-security-flaw/ i dont even i'm the pearl clutching about an internet of poo poo device having security problems
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Midjack posted:i'm the pearl clutching about an internet of poo poo device having security problems some people still have illusions to be shattered.
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JFC they cost tens of thousands of dollars, and seemingly having them run all day is a feature? It's like loving audiophile poo poo for cooking Edit: sorry, the great thing about the new model is that you can turn it off! Unlike normal stoves I guess? https://youtu.be/wZiNxafBZ9o
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if you live somewhere cold then it'll probably offset your heating bill at least
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ohgodwhat posted:JFC they cost tens of thousands of dollars, and seemingly having them run all day is a feature? It's like loving audiophile poo poo for cooking that's over seven hundred dollars a year to run at british gas rates, not counting the text messaging serving also it's basically a half-ton radiator, you probably have to open every window in the kitchen just to stand being in the same room
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This is the dumbest poo poo ad I've ever seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXALZQ6Y6M
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rjmccall posted:that's over seven hundred dollars a year to run at british gas rates, not counting the text messaging serving seems like it'd be useful in iceland
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this is a real product? it feels like a tim and eric skit "here use this oven. its like a regular oven but its huge an ugly and costs 10 times as much in utilities"
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akadajet posted:This is the dumbest poo poo ad I've ever seen
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BiohazrD posted:this is a real product? it feels like a tim and eric skit its a product unchanged* since before central air was invented older = better right *except to add insecure internet controls 
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hobbesmaster posted:gsm modem module costs many times a wifi chip so the "it's cheap" reason is actually wrong. additionally, on the carrier side you can configure sims to only be allowed to communicate with certain endpoints on a private network that cannot leave hat carrier so it's actually possible for sms to be deployed somewhat securely; assuming your cell phone carrier has done its job https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...2802458477.html you can strap anything to the cell network for  now
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Jimmy Carter posted:https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...2802458477.html you can strap anything to the cell network for if you lie to the carrier about what device it is, maybe. you need a certified device to get on their network
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hobbesmaster posted:if you lie to the carrier about what device it is, maybe. you need a certified device to get on their network Uh.
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hobbesmaster posted:if you lie to the carrier about what device it is, maybe. you need a certified device to get on their network for sprint or verizon, sure this is GSM
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hobbesmaster posted:seems like it'd be useful in iceland i thought iceland had pretty much free geothermal heating but i guess it costs between 500 and 1400 eur per year depending where you live
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ohgodwhat posted:JFC they cost tens of thousands of dollars, and seemingly having them run all day is a feature? It's like loving audiophile poo poo for cooking I'm shocked that a british home appliance is inefficient, poorly thought out, and expensive to boot.
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i'm actually kind of angry that such an ostentatious display of conspicuous consumption exists as a stove that burns gas 24/7 and needs its own cell phone plan and is controlled by text messages
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Cocoa Crispies posted:I'm shocked that a british home appliance is inefficient, poorly thought out, and expensive to boot. 
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New shadowbrokers dump https://steemit.com/shadowbrokers/@theshadowbrokers/lost-in-translation This time with Windows exploits (7, 2008R2) and the Swift archive has a list of targets that were hacked to poo poo including router configs and network topology maps etc...
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there's actually a reason why we had separate taps for years. the first running hot water systems (invented in britain while most of the world barely had running cold water) required a separate tap because they heated the water in the pipe directly under the sink using flue gases from the fireplace (yes, that is ridiculously dangerous and dumb) and they were the standard for 70 or so years before centralised water-heating systems started to become economical enough to replace the old systems. even then for years there was a legal requirement to prevent hot water (which was normally fed from a cistern and so not legally drinking water) feeding back into the drinking water system, and given everyone was used to having separate taps and back-flow devices were just another thing to go wrong we kept on with the separate taps.
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spankmeister posted:New shadowbrokers dump the sec fuckup has been found. https://twitter.com/musalbas/status/852860956396986370
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