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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Intel, HP and Cisco all have transceiver brand lockin, you have to use their lovely branded ones or it flat out won't work, which made it loving hellish getting my HP switch to talk to my Intel NIC using a copper cable. I think Cisco still has the iOS command that lets you use the non-branded ones, but intel and HP's response was more or less 'eat a dick' when I asked them how to disable it. HP has only gotten worse too, they've been locking out firmware updates if your device is outside of its warrenty period. So, my new setup: Dell PowerEdge R710 2 x Xeon E5630 Quad Cores @ 2.53 Ghz 64 GB ECC Registered DDR3 2 x 100 GB Dell Enterprise SATA SSDs in RAID-1 (OS) 6 x 146GB SAS 10ks in RAID-6 (VM Storages) 8 x 500GB SAS in RAID-50 (Data Storage) in an MD-1000 Direct Attatched array 4TB Buffalo USB 3.0 External Drive for backups three times a week FreeNAS Corral 10.04 Plex in Docker Container running on a bootDocker VM Windows Server 2016 in VM Runs about 220 watts at full load.  Most of this was migrated off a Dell 2950 that was sucking down almost one and a half times the power with half the performance. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Apr 13, 2017 |
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CommieGIR posted:HP has only gotten worse too, they've been locking out firmware updates if your device is outside of its warrenty period. Yeah, they're off my list of stuff to ever buy again after the poo poo they've pulled. My 2910 cost me like $50, and the two copper cables cost me like $250, the generic ones were like $40 a pop.
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Apr 13, 2017 17:36
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Intel, HP and Cisco all have transceiver brand lockin, you have to use their lovely branded ones or it flat out won't work, which made it loving hellish getting my HP switch to talk to my Intel NIC using a copper cable. I think Cisco still has the iOS command that lets you use the non-branded ones, but intel and HP's response was more or less 'eat a dick' when I asked them how to disable it. Wait, so what transceivers should I be looking at to work with the onboard 10Gb SFP+ NICs on Xeon-D boards?
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Apr 13, 2017 17:41
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Twerk from Home posted:Wait, so what transceivers should I be looking at to work with the onboard 10Gb SFP+ NICs on Xeon-D boards? Intel only, unless they have a firmware or registry tweak to disable the Genuine(tm) Intel(tm) Compatibility check.
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Apr 13, 2017 17:56
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Where is the person that shat on me for saying I didn't like the way 10 was going? Glad to see IX listening and rethinking this.
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Apr 13, 2017 18:13
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TTerrible posted:Where is the person that shat on me for saying I didn't like the way 10 was going? Glad to see IX listening and rethinking this. It was more the Lead Developer left and nobody could fill the vacuum. That and the Java package that does the GUI is not being developed anymore. I can't wait to see what they replace it with, but I'm still happy with it overall.
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Apr 13, 2017 18:17
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Moey posted:Adios FreeNAS 10 And this is why you don't base your product upon other frameworks (MontageJS) that aren't very widely used.
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Thermopyle posted:And this is why you don't base your product upon other frameworks (MontageJS) that aren't very widely used. Am I misremembering, or wasn't it originally based on React when they first announced 10?
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Apr 13, 2017 18:47
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PraxxisParadoX posted:Am I misremembering, or wasn't it originally based on React when they first announced 10? That's weird. I wonder what the deal with this MontageJS dealio is? Also, I should restate my original statement as "And this is why you don't base your product upon other frameworks (MontageJS) that aren't dependent upon tiny companies."
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Apr 13, 2017 18:50
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TTerrible posted:Where is the person that shat on me for saying I didn't like the way 10 was going? Glad to see IX listening and rethinking this. Joke's still on you, then: other than the UI (presumably), the vast majority of 10's feature set will be getting back-ported to 9.x. I think they made mention of intending to put Docker support into 9.10.3 or somesuch, though I didn't catch if that will also be tied with dropping legacy jail support, or will be in addition to jails.
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DrDork posted:Joke's still on you, then: other than the UI (presumably), the vast majority of 10's feature set will be getting back-ported to 9.x. I think they made mention of intending to put Docker support into 9.10.3 or somesuch, though I didn't catch if that will also be tied with dropping legacy jail support, or will be in addition to jails. They say currently, bhyve will be included in the May release, as well as Docker Container support via bhyve, and a new UI, so yeah, a lot of stuff from Corral is getting back ported, but I know they are not resuing the MotageJS UI due to lack of development.
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DrDork posted:Joke's still on you, then: other than the UI (presumably), the vast majority of 10's feature set will be getting back-ported to 9.x. I think they made mention of intending to put Docker support into 9.10.3 or somesuch, though I didn't catch if that will also be tied with dropping legacy jail support, or will be in addition to jails. I was concerned about jails being completely replaced with Docker, and the first bullet point of features on the announcement about Corral being dropped is: quote:Expand and improve support for jails and jail-based plugins: For maximum compatibility with lighter system requirements. I'll be fine.
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Apr 13, 2017 22:55
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Hope someone leaks the drama that happened behind the scenes.
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Apr 14, 2017 00:14
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This announcement has totally killed any desire I had in trying to build something, I'm now going back to qnap for the foreseeable future. gently caress this immense waste of time.
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Apr 14, 2017 00:58
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ILikeVoltron posted:This announcement has totally killed any desire I had in trying to build something, I'm now going back to qnap for the foreseeable future. gently caress this immense waste of time. You can pay for unraid and get pretty great features, smooth as hell upgrades, and non emulated docker
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Apr 14, 2017 01:03
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Matt Zerella posted:You can pay for unraid and get pretty great features, smooth as hell upgrades, and non emulated docker FreeNAS is not 'emulating' docker, its running it in a boot2docker VM. Its a full docker install, on a lightweight Linux distro. http://boot2docker.io/
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Apr 14, 2017 01:32
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Moey posted:Adios FreeNAS 10 
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eames posted:Is this little disclaimer new? I'm appreciating this post a lot.
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TTerrible posted:I'm appreciating this post a lot. Man, you are such a buzzkill. Some of us like it.
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Apr 14, 2017 02:40
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Back to the drawing board. Oh well, I only have ~2TB of data used, it'll be just an evening for me.
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CommieGIR posted:Man, you are such a buzzkill. Some of us like it. I can understand liking it. I love the idea of the UI not locking up on operations and stuff. I quoted that post because I like the idea of someone in iX just slipping the (NOT FOR PRODUCTION) on the link while a heated debate was going on about what to do.
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TTerrible posted:I can understand liking it. I love the idea of the UI not locking up on operations and stuff. I quoted that post because I like the idea of someone in iX just slipping the (NOT FOR PRODUCTION) on the link while a heated debate was going on about what to do. I haven't had my UI lock up on operations yet. The only major bug I've dealt with was the installer just doesn't work. Only way I got it to install was to install FreeNAS 9.0, then change the update path, and let it self-update to Corral. Otherwise, it just wouldn't install.
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CommieGIR posted:I haven't had my UI lock up on operations yet. The only major bug I've dealt with was the installer just doesn't work. Only way I got it to install was to install FreeNAS 9.0, then change the update path, and let it self-update to Corral. Sorry I meant the middleware thing where you could set something going on the admin pages and then navigate away and the operation would continue.
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TTerrible posted:Sorry I meant the middleware thing where you could set something going on the admin pages and then navigate away and the operation would continue. That's what I meant. I can start an operation (or an operation can be kicked off via the cron) and it'll show up on the list as in process even if I leave the page.
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CommieGIR posted:That's what I meant. I can start an operation (or an operation can be kicked off via the cron) and it'll show up on the list as in process even if I leave the page. Under 9? I'm sure I get a model progress thing that runs backwards and forwards. I've not touched my install for a long rear end time though.
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You're agreeing with each other. TTerrible is saying that the old UI sometimes hung when you did operations, and the Corral one doesn't, and that's nice.
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G-Prime posted:You're agreeing with each other. TTerrible is saying that the old UI sometimes hung when you did operations, and the Corral one doesn't, and that's nice. Yes, this.
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TTerrible posted:Yes, this. Oh okay, my mistake!
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A lot of the times my posts end up as word salad. I doubt the mistake was yours. 
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TTerrible posted:I'll be fine. Well then everyone wins! I mean, everyone except anyone who already upgraded to Corral and spent any time setting up VMs, anyhow.
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caberham posted:I dont want to buy unraid. what else can I use in the mean time? Ubuntu + ZFS, or your linux distro of choice + mdadm with LVM, or Windows + Storage Spaces, honestly anything that's been around for a while will work and people get all picky over minutia here. Edit: Don't use btrfs in RAID 5 or 6. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Apr 14, 2017 |
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caberham posted:I dont want to buy unraid. what else can I use in the mean time? They have a free 14 day trial that can be extended to 28 days on request. I did not want to buy it either because some design decisions are more than questionable (root login over plaintext http to access the 1999 designed web gui  ) but they got a lot of other things right. The maintenance required to keep it running is minimal because you have a company and a pretty large community doing all the work for you.Ubuntu + ZFS + KVM + Docker would arguably be a better solution but it'll require a lot more effort and manual config editing to keep it running.
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I'm fuzzy on the ZFS/bitrot thing; is the issue with prior RAID systems that they can't correct for bitrot (in which case, what's the point of scrubbing??), or is it that bitrot could occur between scrubs and you won't know until after the file's already been read somewhere and the corrupted file has screwed up your project? Also, what parity RAID system is currently fastest at rebuilding from a failed disk?
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caberham posted:I dont want to buy unraid. what else can I use in the mean time? Another option for ZFS-with-a-GUI is napp-it (GUI management package) on OmniOS (Illumos distro). It also supports KVM and Zones, so you even have your bhyve and Jails analogs.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Looks like one of my 2TB drives in my ZFS NAS is dying. As part of a gradual upgrade, I'm going to replace it with a 4TB disk. Reposting for assistance
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PerrineClostermann posted:Reposting for assistance WD Reds or HGST NAS drives are good. Arguable drive life stats: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-benchmark-stats-2016/
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PerrineClostermann posted:Reposting for assistance You can't go wrong with WD Reds. The Seagate Ironwolf drives look promising, and are slightly less expensive compared to Reds. ServeTheHome has some recommendations too.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Reposting for assistance Reds are still the default answer, more or less. No one has any real data on the HGST or Seagate ones (and, frankly, I doubt anyone has any real data on the Reds, either), so you're mostly trading on brand-name expectations and whose warranty support you think would be best (hint: they will all replace failed/failing drives without argument). I've always gone for whoever happens to be on sale when I needed a new drive and so far have no regrets.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Reposting for assistance HGST 4TB NAS. I've sold and used a lot of them and had zero die in 2-3 years I think. Not a huge sample size, maybe 25, but I am a huge fan.
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