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The no state solution.
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Apr 14, 2017 21:40
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I think all other countries should leave the Middle East alone, that any dictators or theocratic governments should set up fair democracies and quit/dissolve themselves, that ISIS should lay down their weapons and that terrorists from and inspired by the Middle East should stop perpetrating attacks.
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Apr 14, 2017 21:44
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Pissflaps posted:It didn't go wrong in 1991 either. Neither is ignoring the starving children everywhere else in the world, the children who work in factories in all over Asia for no pay and everything single loving thing to do with Saudi Arabia, but your government is perfectly happy to support those things. Pick a better hill to die on, you concern trolling sack of poo poo.
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Apr 14, 2017 21:59
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I think the govt does quite a bit of international development actually
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Breath Ray posted:I think the govt does quite a bit of international development actually Doesn't the UK have the second largest aid budget in the world? Edit: quote:IN 2015 Britain gave away £12.1bn ($18.5bn) in foreign aid, more than any country bar America. It was one of just six countries to meet the UN’s target of spending 0.7% of GDP on international assistance.
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Breath Ray posted:I think the govt does quite a bit of international development actually Even the little we do do is too much for a lot of people.
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Apr 14, 2017 22:45
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Pissflaps posted:Personally I'd rather they finished the job in the 90s rather than impose sanctions. Hahahaha "finished", brilliant. Thanks for that, needed a laugh.
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blowfish posted:Let's turn the middle east into a radioactive wasteland and call it peace. Ah, the Tacitus solution. The Blairite just straight up said that the Iraq war was good, something I didn't think I'd ever hear anyone straight up admit again.
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Apr 14, 2017 22:52
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EmptyVessel posted:Hahahaha "finished", brilliant. Thanks for that, needed a laugh. I don't understand the joke.
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Apr 14, 2017 22:52
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Pissflaps posted:I don't understand the joke. This does not surprise me. These things never finish - unless you are proposing Total Terrestrial Genocide (to paraphrase Thanos) that is.
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Apr 14, 2017 23:02
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EmptyVessel posted:This does not surprise me. I'm with you. I meant specifically finish the job of bring down Sadam Hussain's regime.
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Apr 14, 2017 23:09
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Pissflaps posted:I enjoyed and value your contribution to the debate. Please dont be put off sharing your opinions and experiences by an antagonistic minority. I'm not surprised you're against evidence based arguing.
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Apr 14, 2017 23:15
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I think we all know pissflaps doesnt like antagonistic minorities
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JFairfax posted:I think we all know pissflaps doesnt like antagonistic minorities I don't understand this post.
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Pissflaps posted:I don't understand this post. Too "urban" for you?
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im sure there is much u do not understand, fret not ol' flaps
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Pissflaps posted:I'm with you. I meant specifically finish the job of bring down Sadam Hussain's regime. What makes you sure that that timeline would be better? Might be worse. Either way, this reality is the one we have to deal with here and now and hypothetical pasts wont help. e:Especially any that frame conflict as good. JFairfax posted:I think we all know pissflaps doesnt like antagonistic minorities I thought he was one (in a UKMT context). EmptyVessel fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Apr 14, 2017 |
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Apr 14, 2017 23:29
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Namtab posted:Too "urban" for you? I guess my main source of confusion is why it would be made by a known homophobe, transphobe and racist but he notionally thinks that Jeremy Corbyn is a good idea so I suppose you can put all that to one side, right?
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I don't read rap sheets but yeah those are bad posts
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EmptyVessel posted:What makes you sure that that timeline would be better? Might be worse. Well, the 500,000 children apparently killed by sanctions brought against that regime following the first gulf war would presumably have survived?
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Pissflaps posted:Well, the 500,000 children apparently killed by sanctions brought against that regime following the first gulf war would presumably have survived? Without massive advances in Multiverse observation technology we'll never know.
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EmptyVessel posted:Without massive advances in Multiverse observation technology we'll never know. We know they wouldn't die as a result of sanctions surely?
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Apr 14, 2017 23:45
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Say what you will about the Mail Online, they know how to target ads.
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Pissflaps posted:I guess my main source of confusion is why it would be made by a known homophobe, transphobe and racist but he notionally thinks that Jeremy Corbyn is a good idea so I suppose you can put all that to one side, right? dont be a creep pissflaps
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Pissflaps posted:We know they wouldn't die as a result of sanctions surely? In any world without those specific sanctions, yes. Plenty of other possibilities. E: How about if we hadn't finished the job, and also didn't impose sanctions? Namtab posted:There's no such thing as the multiverse EmptyVessel fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Apr 15, 2017 |
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There's no such thing as the multiverse
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EmptyVessel posted:In any world without those specific sanctions, yes. Plenty of other possibilities. What do you mean?
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EmptyVessel posted:In any world without those specific sanctions, yes. Plenty of other possibilities. Crunchyroll teaches us all that anime is real. E: just think we could have created a power vacuum in iraq 2 decades ago instead, what a wasted opportunity
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Pissflaps posted:What do you mean?  Okay, maybe finishing the job meant a longer, harder, bloodier fight and some, all or more died then. Or, we finished the job smartish and quickly but mishandled whatever replacement was put in place leading to local unrest and violence that also might kill them. Or, EmptyVessel posted:E: How about if we hadn't finished the job, and also didn't impose sanctions? E2: Namtab posted:Crunchyroll teaches us all that anime is real. Namtab posted:E: just think we could have created a power vacuum in iraq 2 decades ago instead, what a wasted opportunity EmptyVessel fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Apr 15, 2017 |
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Guavanaut posted:Say what you will about the Mail Online, they know how to target ads. Actually, it's probably the programmatic vendor that Tesco use for their online advertising picking out a page that's been highlighted as having drink relevant content (they keyword may be triggering that) and the Mail, bastards that they are, most likely have nothing to do with it short of offering up the ad space. edit: it may also be retargeting. Have you been to tesco online lately?
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Getting away from parallel universes for a minute, it's pretty annoying that Labour's 'policy blitz' has been totally eclipsed today by a flurry of articles about a Labour MP blaming Corbyn for the loss of a council seat. I mean regardless of whether you are pro or anti Corbyn, this constant deliberate self-sabotage is going to cause huge amounts of resentment with a lot of people. If they do succeed in getting rid of Corbyn I question whether they can go on to win having so totally alienated his current supporters.
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OwlFancier posted:Is Tom mouthing off again? No, this time just a nobody backbencher. It's still enough to spark a news article on every major outlet.
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jabby posted:No, this time just a nobody backbencher. It's still enough to spark a news article on every major outlet. Sorry, I mean, Tom Blenkinsop, Middlesbrough South MP, I think his area covers Coulby and he tends to spend a lot of time whingeing about Corbyn. E: Yyyyeep, it's him. Really making it hard for me to vote for you, Tom. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Apr 15, 2017 |
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jabby posted:Getting away from parallel universes for a minute, it's pretty annoying that Labour's 'policy blitz' has been totally eclipsed today by a flurry of articles about a Labour MP blaming Corbyn for the loss of a council seat. If it's any consolation, Good Friday is a notoriously poo poo day for people actually paying attention to the news, so if you're going to have someone get a flurry of articles undermining Corbyn having it happen on a day when the majority of people aren't paying attention is better than the alternative. The story won't have legs through to Tuesday, and in turn got overwhelmed by US foreign policy news and the Sun being poo poo. Still annoying that you get these stories during policy blitzes though.
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OwlFancier posted:Sorry, I mean, Tom Blenkinsop, Middlesbrough South MP, I think his area covers Coulby and he tends to spend a lot of time whingeing about Corbyn. Write to him asking him not to undermine policy announcements
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Pissflaps posted:Doesn't the UK have the second largest aid budget in the world? The problem is there's aid and there's "aid". Quite apart from the fact that almost 10% of the budget goes straight to consultancies, including the usual suspects in the accountancy world, only about 15% of it goes on what most people think of as aid - food, water, clothing, etc. Of the remainder, the majority goes on subsidising projects overseas on the proviso they use British goods and services, so most of it ends up straight back in the UK (well probably in various EU tax dodges) as a lot of it goes to companies like Carillion, JCB, and of course BAE because export guarantee credits for British-made killing machines still qualify as "foreign aid". This is why we keep getting stories about the huge amount of "aid" given to countries like India despite them doing quite nicely economically right now. I mean of course a lot of that marginal "aid" is still doing good things - a big chunk of the money given to Pakistan that made people harrumph so much was used on building or repairing internal communications and improving farmland in the Swat valley, something that did far more to loosen the grip of the Taliban in the area than all of the shootbangs that we could have bought with the money could ever have hoped to. If lining the pockets of Tory donors is the overhead we have to pay to get that sort of work done, then that's about the best we can hope for nowadays, innit?
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