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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Understandable, although I'd be more irritated at whoever looked at "tilt control marble game" and described it as "pinball" Oh yeah, it's hardly the devs fault. As is while I used to love "rogue-likes", there's just so many of them these days. At least it's trying something new.
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Apr 16, 2017 00:14
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Cardboard Box posted:yeah that's kind of the big thing. hearing game audio is important, especially in a shooter.  I used a headset with Splatoon a number of times both for playing with friends and also just rando phone calls and i had no problem at all hearing the game audio.
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Apr 16, 2017 00:15
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Spacebump posted:I still can't believe voice chat is restricted to a phone app. Legit don't give a flying gently caress about hearing some 8 year old 'trashtalking' when I just want to play some Mario Karts Glad it's relegated to an app so it's an opt-in sorta thing Rather it be kept to Rocket League levels of trolling. WOW! What a save! What a save! What a save! WOW! *Chat disabled for 5 seconds* Vs 
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Apr 16, 2017 00:17
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Am I correct in assuming that these Switch headsets I've been seeing in stores around here are just scams that do nothing and will continue to do nothing once all of the online stuff is up? https://www.amazon.com/Afterglow-LVL-Chat-Communicator-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B01MUANWOL/
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Apr 16, 2017 00:17
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Infinitum posted:Legit don't give a flying gently caress about hearing some 8 year old 'trashtalking' when I just want to play some Mario Karts if they put a party system in mk or spaltoon i will never play pubbies and i will always use voice so ymmv
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Apr 16, 2017 00:18
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But for realsies Nintendo has always been a family orientated company, and noone wants to hear Joe I-hosed-your-mum-last-night 8-Year-Old spewing nonsense. Opt-in audio is fine for your mates Having is as a phone app is not ideal, BUT you can appreciate the principle behind it in having a portable game console. You'll always have your phone with you in portable mode.
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Apr 16, 2017 00:19
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Infinitum posted:Legit don't give a flying gently caress about hearing some 8 year old 'trashtalking' when I just want to play some Mario Karts pretty sure in general it'll be an opt-in party system. there's no way nintendo will allow voice chat between strangers, and i don't want that either.
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Apr 16, 2017 00:22
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It will be cool if you can connect with Switch people through the app on the go. Basically make it Discord that syncs up with my Switch.
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Apr 16, 2017 00:23
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:Am I correct in assuming that these Switch headsets I've been seeing in stores around here are just scams that do nothing and will continue to do nothing once all of the online stuff is up? there are no games with voice chat yet so there's no way to know if the mic even does anything, but my guess is probably not if the voice chat is going to be relegated to a phone app
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Apr 16, 2017 00:23
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Cardboard Box posted:there are no games with voice chat yet so there's no way to know if the mic even does anything, but my guess is probably not if the voice chat is going to be relegated to a phone app Phones can use headset/earbud mics just fine though? 
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Apr 16, 2017 00:25
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i mean, yeah, you can plug the headset into your phone, but there's no point in a switch-specific branded one in that scenario
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Apr 16, 2017 00:26
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Infinitum posted:Legit don't give a flying gently caress about hearing some 8 year old 'trashtalking' when I just want to play some Mario Karts It's a basic feature on every other console's online service. Most games have it so you have to opt in to hear randoms in the menus. (if you can hear them at all.) Having party chat is a great option if you have a bunch of friends that also have the console. Your idea of console voice chat is where it was at during the OG Xbox live era. Not all decisions by Nintendo are good ones.
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Apr 16, 2017 00:29
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Infinitum posted:But for realsies Nintendo has always been a family orientated company, and noone wants to hear Joe I-hosed-your-mum-last-night 8-Year-Old spewing nonsense. I don't see how it being portable makes using a phone for voice chat make more sense. It would be entirely more convenient to just plug headphones into the switch. Especially because to hear the in game sounds you'd have to turn up the volume on the switch and annoy everyone around you.
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Yeah, I have a pair of Hyper CloudX headphones and they plug into the front of my PC for voice chat and if I want to go to PS4/Xbone/Vita/whatever I just plug the ends into the splitter and plug them into my controller and boom I'm there.Spacebump posted:It's a basic feature on every other console's online service. Most games have it so you have to opt in to hear randoms in the menus. (if you can hear them at all.) Having party chat is a great option if you have a bunch of friends that also have the console. Your idea of console voice chat is where it was at during the OG Xbox live era. Not all decisions by Nintendo are good ones. Absolutely. I can count on one hand the number of times I have actually heard live open-mics in modern online games, and all of them featured voice filter/universal mute options so I could just instantly shut it off if I felt the need to. It's like some people still think it's the dawn of XBL when in 2017 everyone just uses Party Chat because it has a higher sound quality and works across games so I could be talking to some friends playing a game while I'm playing a different one.
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If anyone in Long Beach, CA or Lakewood area wants a Switch, I'm looking at 4 in the case right now. Sadly I don't have the need for one right now, but I had no idea I'd walk in and see them stocked. Edit: Walmart on Carson at Paramount.
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Apr 16, 2017 01:03
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Policenaut posted:It's like some people still think it's the dawn of XBL It kinda makes sense for people to defend the decisions of a company that is still years behind the competition in terms of online features and functionality if their own perception of what online gaming is like is also stuck in the past/some youtube video they saw. I basically never hear anyone on PS4 online games as is, and the very few times anyone got obnoxious in Titanfall 2 it was a simple matter to mute them. It's okay to admit to being unwilling to listen to other people while playing a videogame, but pretending that limiting basic functionality of a console is a good thing because other people are jerks on the internet is pretty ridiculous. This could be done with something as simple as a console-level/account level option to mute all voice chat unless it's from a friend, which doesn't limit functionality and lets some goons maintain their anti-social bubble without fear of those 8 year olds talking poo poo while they take Splatoon and Mario Kart more seriously than the target audience.
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Apr 16, 2017 01:05
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So I never hear randoms online as it is setup these days and if I'm talking to people I know we already have a voice system plainly. I care about whatever Nintendo does on this front why?
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Apr 16, 2017 01:09
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I can agree that it would be A Good Thing for Nintendo to get up to snuff with TYOOL 2017 online account/chat standards, but when it comes to chat they never will. I mean they pulled half the not-in-game chat stuff from the 3DS because people were drawing dicks. They let Binding of Isaac onto the system, but I have a suspicion that any 1st party Rated-E game on a Nintendo system will never have in-game live chat functionality because they can't moderate it sufficiently. All that having said, I've not used in-game voice chat that wasn't Discord for...as long as Discord has been a thing, really, so my dog in this race is nonexistent.
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Apr 16, 2017 01:12
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Hammer Bro. posted:Of all the pre-release rumors of defects, this was the only one that potentially concerns me. My TV is barely 720p to begin with (it may be slightly less), and I know HDMI can communicate resolutions across the cable. If the always-upscales-when-docked, regardless of target system resolution, thing is a function of the hardware and not something they eventually patch in software, I'm gonna be slightly disappointed in Nintendo. From a couple pages back, but what the render resolution is is probably handled by individual games, and there's no hardware thing that would force a game to render at a specific resolution.
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Why do people want to talk to pubs? If I'm playing with friends, I load up in a voice chat with them. If I'm playing with pubbies, I don't want to talk to them. if I'm playing a game where I need to work with other people, I'd rather do so with quick chat text or I'll just play with friends.
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Cojawfee posted:Why do people want to talk to pubs? If I'm playing with friends, I load up in a voice chat with them. If I'm playing with pubbies, I don't want to talk to them. if I'm playing a game where I need to work with other people, I'd rather do so with quick chat text or I'll just play with friends. I want to talk to my friends while I play video games with them. On PC it's no problem to use Discord because I can adjust the sound of everything and it's all piped through my headphones. I want to be able to hear the game and my friends at the same time.
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But your friends are right next to you at the rooftop party...
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Cojawfee posted:Why do people want to talk to pubs? If I'm playing with friends, I load up in a voice chat with them. If I'm playing with pubbies, I don't want to talk to them. if I'm playing a game where I need to work with other people, I'd rather do so with quick chat text or I'll just play with friends. Yeah like the other guy said it would be way better to just do it through your console without also having to use your phone. This false dichotomy of "forced into voicechat with strangers against your will" vs "phone app" is dumb.
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Stan Taylor posted:I want to talk to my friends while I play video games with them. On PC it's no problem to use Discord because I can adjust the sound of everything and it's all piped through my headphones. I want to be able to hear the game and my friends at the same time. Most computers have a line-in audio port that can be used to play anything incoming out through whatever the normal output is. Windows will let you do it from the audio settings, Mac requires an external program. If you're using the Switch dock, most TVs have a headphones-out port that can be used if you don't want to have extra wires plugged into the Switch. Which is not to say "there, problem solved, stop complaining about it", but it's a workaround that's useful for a lot of other situations as well 
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People really don't know how online chatting can work and think a phone app requirement for game chat makes any kind of sense? e: "You need third-party hardware to chat with your friends in this game" - a great idea apparently???
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Zanzibar Ham posted:People really don't know how online chatting can work and think a phone app requirement for game chat makes any kind of sense? *imagines a nightmare future where 8 year olds force me to turn on voice chat and then bully me*
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Apr 16, 2017 02:01
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I'm remarkably antisocial in video games. I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to hear you talk. Interacting with gamers online typically just irritates me.
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Apr 16, 2017 02:13
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TerraGoetia posted:I'm remarkably antisocial in video games. I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to hear you talk. Interacting with gamers online typically just irritates me. Ok then don't do it man, your phone and computer and other consoles are capable of voice chat and you seem to be doing great.
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Apr 16, 2017 02:19
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I hate game voice-acting/music/whatever, please require everybody to get a phone app to listen to those things in the game thanks in advance.
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Apr 16, 2017 02:21
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*nintendo shits in my eye* This is actually good for the immune system in the long run, good thinking
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Apr 16, 2017 02:26
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It's a terrible idea only Nintendo would come up with, but the stupidity of it will discourage idiots from putting in the extra effort to be shits online so whatever.
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Mega64 posted:It's a terrible idea only Nintendo would come up with, but the stupidity of it will discourage idiots from putting in the extra effort to be shits online so whatever. "Gamers are a vile bunch and not to be trusted with voice chat, but gamers demand voice chat! What do we do?" Nintendo R&D Department: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQk_832EAx4
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Apr 16, 2017 02:37
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It's funny because separating game chat to a secondary piece of external hardware does nothing to solve any of the things anyone one in here has complained about but it does inconvenience the people who want to use it.
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Apr 16, 2017 02:41
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Bass Bottles posted:It's funny because separating game chat to a secondary piece of external hardware does nothing to solve any of the things anyone one in here has complained about but it does inconvenience the people who want to use it. I appreciate the solution for how utterly baffling it is. Nintendo has gotten being rear end-backwards about online down to a science at this point.
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It really feels like a system designed by people who have never played online, but thought they could come up with something better. Like, "everyone has a smartphone these days, just use that" is the kind of "forward-thinking" you get from an uncle who watched his nephew play call of duty at Thanksgiving for ten minutes.
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Maybe it came down to a price/cost thing? Each unit now needs mic hardware to run it, plus gotta code that poo poo into every unit? No idea. I'm not trying to stand up for Nintendo or anything, because it's a weird as gently caress work-around, just trying to understand the decision behind it.
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Nintendo have always been behind the 8-ball when it comes to online ~Friend Codes~
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I don't see why they wouldn't make voice chat off by default and make it so you have to enter the parental controls on your account to enable speech/listen. it's probably the best compromise between "I don't want that / I don't want my kids on that" and "I want to talk to people and be social and coordinate."
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