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froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

canyoneer posted:

I don't think it's a universally accepted truth that Megan Young, 23 year old p.r. woman from Hoboken, NJ is out of her boyfriend's league. Maybe it's a bad picture but I'd say they're pretty evenly matched. Far from this scenario, for sure

But people sort of naturally gravitate towards people closer to their own perceived desirability anyway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matching_hypothesis

This really reminds me of something...


ate all the Oreos posted:

Hey there buddy would you like to have sex with my daughter here's my card make me some hot rich grandkids :heysexy:

:gonk: Ewwwww

That said, there's a business opportunity for someone - setting up a service to match dudes who want girls who are pretty-but-not-too-pretty with other desirable traits (like degrees and personalities, I guess? Assuming this article is to be believe)... Though I think that Spindel lady has the market cornered in NY.

Edit: Also am I the only one who is weirded out that the lady in that article seems perfectly okay with being described like some sort of farm animal in terms of her appearance? Seems like he's one small step above complimenting her for having all her teeth...

froglet fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Apr 14, 2017

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crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



ate all the Oreos posted:

Hey there buddy would you like to have sex with my daughter here's my card make me some hot rich grandkids :heysexy:

She's does professionally what generic mothers looking to set up their kids do for free, GWM.

baquerd
Jul 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

froglet posted:

That said, there's a business opportunity for someone - setting up a service to match dudes who want girls who are pretty-but-not-too-pretty with other desirable traits (like degrees and personalities, I guess? Assuming this article is to be believe)... Though I think that Spindel lady has the market cornered in NY.

Edit: Also am I the only one who is weirded out that the lady in that article seems perfectly okay with being described like some sort of farm animal in terms of her appearance? Seems like he's one small step above complimenting her for having all her teeth...

If anything, the market would tend in the other direction. High-earning women are hurting a lot more than high-earning men at finding reasonable partners, largely because men don't expect to be paired with a woman that earns more than they do.

theHUNGERian
Feb 23, 2006

The other day, I got spam about how to build my own house boat. Today I see a street-crossing pushing-thingy (the ones that gives car traffic a red light, so pedestrians can cross) but it was made for people riding on horses.

The bwm-thread is leaking into my real life.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

theHUNGERian posted:

The other day, I got spam about how to build my own house boat. Today I see a street-crossing pushing-thingy (the ones that gives car traffic a red light, so pedestrians can cross) but it was made for people riding on horses.

The bwm-thread is leaking into my real life.

Wait so does it have a little picture of a horse instead of the walk guy too

spincube
Jan 31, 2006

I spent :10bux: so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
Grimey Drawer
They certainly do! The button is mounted at saddle-height, so the rider doesn't need to dismount:



:eng101: Fun fact: crossings designed solely for horseback riders - think rural and semi-rural areas - are called 'pegasus crossings'; whereas the above image is a 'toucan crossing', as cyclists and pedestrians have their own crossing lanes - so two-can cross at once. The bog-standard pedestrian-only version is called a 'puffin crossing', as it's for pedestrians and it's user-friendly.

[e] BWM: working with Highways England on major roadway redevelopments. You wouldn't believe how quickly and how many 'are YOU being affected by construction work in your area?' ads start appearing.

spincube fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Apr 15, 2017

Grim Up North
Dec 12, 2011

spincube posted:

:eng101: Fun fact: crossings designed solely for horseback riders - think rural and semi-rural areas - are called 'pegasus crossings'; whereas the above image is a 'toucan crossing', as cyclists and pedestrians have their own crossing lanes - so two-can cross at once. The bog-standard pedestrian-only version is called a 'puffin crossing', as it's for pedestrians and it's user-friendly

:laffo: Well I guess over here, there are only Pelican crossings. PEdestrian LIght CANtrolled Crossing :eng99:

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Reddit where else posted:

I don't spend money on myself very often, but you guys might remember me talking about paying $500 to "invest" (only in quotation marks because I'm not expecting to make money off of it) in a crowdfunding effort to buy a few racehorses.
One of my horses (Cistron) is running today in the Northern Spur Stakes down at Oaklawn Park in Arkansas. One of our other horses (Noble Freud) is racing in a stakes next weekend at Aqueduct Racetrack in New York. I've just been having such a blast with this experience so far and I absolutely consider it the best $500 I've ever spent.
I never thought that I would be able to say that I could own racehorses, but I found a way to do it for a tiny fraction of the traditional cost. Keep your eyes open for any opportunities like that in your favorite hobbies! They're absolutely worth it.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Oh no, $500 on a hobby.

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:

On the other hand, $500 for a hobby someone enjoys is not a crazy amount of money to be paid, and I wonder what total share of the compensation comes out if the horse runs well?

Like I'm sure it's not a great way to make money but there's quite a bit of money in horse racing so it would be interesting to see if they see even a little bit of return on this (essentially) wager?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

It's not a wager, it's a hobby expense. It's cheaper than a vacation, and he's having a great time.

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:

Subjunctive posted:

It's not a wager, it's a pet/hobby expense. It's cheaper than a vacation, and he's having a great time.

I'd be more inclined to treat it like a pet or hobby if he got any benefit other than an owned share of the horse's earnings. Like he doesn't get to ride the horse, might not even get to pet the horse or help feed the horse, it's not quite like horse ownership as much as it is ownership of the earnings structure of the horse. He might not even get access to watch the horse perform. That said, it's exactly the same as owning "a share" of a football or soccer team or something, except no tickets.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

He gets enjoyment, that's the point of a hobby. People don't "get anything" when they go skiing or attend an opera or scuba dive, they just get enjoyment. It's ok to spend money you can afford because it makes you harmlessly happy.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Subjunctive posted:

He gets enjoyment, that's the point of a hobby. People don't "get anything" when they go skiing or attend an opera or scuba dive, they just get enjoyment. It's ok to spend money you can afford because it makes you harmlessly happy.

Yes but if I go skiing, I get to enjoy the skiing part. If I go to an opera, I get to enjoy the performance. If I own part of a racehorse I get to hear about Magic Mushroom broke his leg and is now being transported to the glue factory.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

monster on a stick posted:

Yes but if I go skiing, I get to enjoy the skiing part. If I go to an opera, I get to enjoy the performance. If I own part of a racehorse I get to hear about Magic Mushroom broke his leg and is now being transported to the glue factory.

You get to enjoy seeing the race results and feeling "that's my horse". This person really enjoys that feeling, by his own reports. Is your argument "I wouldn't enjoy that, so he shouldn't"? I hate skiing.

E: you're also making assumptions about what he doesn't get, like behind the scenes reports or pictures or whatever. Horses are much ha ha, by BWM trope, but this is just a guy (woman) dropping $500 on something he enjoys.

Subjunctive fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Apr 15, 2017

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
Okay, it's a hobby, but a hobby that's experiential in the same way gambling is experiential generally.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

Okay, it's a hobby, but a hobby that's experiential in the same way gambling is experiential generally.

Not sure if it is gambling. But it also seems like you can pick a racehorse and root for it, just like you root for Local Sports Team if you have zero monetary stake in the outcome. People were cheering for the Patriots/Falcons in the last Super Bowl who have never been to any of their games.

But really I posted it because horse.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

Okay, it's a hobby, but a hobby that's experiential in the same way gambling is experiential generally.

Or like tourism is, if he gets behind the scenes reports and photos. Or to chat with the jockeys. It's experiential in that it's an experience he enjoys. Could be paying $500 for tickets to one show instead.

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related
People pay thousands to watch other people swat at balls, this is not much different. They enjoy living vicariously through others for a moderate amount of money.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

TBH, if someone said "I enjoy gambling and I've budgeted $500 for it while I'm in Vegas", I would be fine with that too.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013
FINE

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/42eu3p/cousin_wants_to_go_to_equestrian_school_what_kind/ posted:

Cousin wants to go to equestrian school. What kind of job can she even hope to get? (self.personalfinance)

So, like the title says, my cousin want to go to an equestrian college. She's 15 now and rides in horse shows all the time and wins quite a few of them. She loves horses and riding them, and is absolutely set on going to an equestrian college.

I honestly can't say poo poo about her choices since I went to an expensive art school, and am working on paying off loans, but it was also in NYC where art jobs exist. I'm now employed as an artist and will have my crazy loans paid off in 2 years.

But what kind of job can she ever hope to get with an equestrian degree? Horse riding teacher? Farm hand?.... Show horse.. Stuff? Her college she's hoping to get into is also 40k a year and my family is definitely not make of that kind of money. She has a college fund and is trying for scholarships, but... Even still, that's 160k in student debt she's looking at.

She'd have to buy a horse farm, and horses and maybe hope to teach, but all of that is absurdly expensive.

Does anyone have any knowledge at all of this kind of degree? I'd really appreciate some insight to possibly then give to my cousin or her parents.

Thank you!

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
lol that one's good, but congratulations to the artist for paying off her cartoonish student loans in 2 years.

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX

Subjunctive posted:

Or like tourism is, if he gets behind the scenes reports and photos. Or to chat with the jockeys. It's experiential in that it's an experience he enjoys. Could be paying $500 for tickets to one show instead.

no but you see his hobby is related to horses in some way so time to post it in the bwm thread and beat that dumb joke further into the ground!!

MrKatharsis
Nov 29, 2003

feel the bern
Talking about your race horse is some douchebag's idea of a great pickup line.

SloMo, you still here?

theHUNGERian
Feb 23, 2006

spincube posted:

They certainly do! The button is mounted at saddle-height, so the rider doesn't need to dismount:




This is exactly what it looked like, and it was in the middle of town (Rancho Cucamonga) not far from Los Angeles. I think it was some kind of trail.

spinst
Jul 14, 2012



I live in one of the "top 25 fastest growing metropolitan areas" according to a U.S. Census Bureau report.

I've been looking to get out of my apartment and into a duplex. Found an affordable one, which was hard enough, and went to the open house today.

There were so many people there! It was depressing.

Apartment living forever, I guess!

Moving: BWM

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.
Long story short - Medich is a wealthy Sydney property developer who is on trial for orchestrating the murder of Michael McGurk. Medich was embroiled in a legal battle with McGurk over a property deal gone wrong, with accusations of fraud and mismanagement on all sides. Of course, when the ridiculously wealthy are involved, their ridiculous lifestyle always come to light...

"Sydney Morning Herald posted:

As the days passed without the jury in his murder trial reaching a verdict, the once fabulously wealthy property developer Ron Medich grew increasingly anxious.

Once worth more than $100 million, Mr Medich, 69, was overheard complaining last week that he had only $1000 left in the bank.
Ron Medich trial: Jury unable to reach verdict

Property developer Ron Medich had pleaded not guilty to ordering the contract killing of his former business partner Michael McGurk in 2009. Fairfax reporter Kate McClymont takes a look back at the murder trial.

On Thursday, just short of three weeks of deliberations, the jury informed the judge they were unable to reach a unanimous verdict on whether Mr Medich was the mastermind behind the 2009 murder of his business foe Michael McGurk.

Wild shouts could be heard from the jury room after they were formally discharged by the judge. Whether it was from rage or relief was not discernible.
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Meanwhile, Mr Medich sat stony-faced in the dock while his daughter Pamela wept.

After eight weeks of evidence and three of deliberations, Mr Medich was back to square one. The $1.8 million he'd spent on his defence – a senior counsel, Winston Terracini, two junior barristers and two solicitors – was gone and he now faces the prospect of funding a new trial.
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With his claims of near destitution, where has all the money gone?

In May 2016 Mr Medich tried, unsuccessfully, to have his murder trial postponed because he told the court he had no money.

However, court documents revealed that he had been given $2.9 million in September 2014, but by October the following year, he had gone through the lot.
The money had been released from the $37 million sale of his and ex-wife Odettas's waterfront mansion in Point Piper.

But the rest of their joint assets, worth an estimated $80 million, had been frozen while the pair battled in the Family Court.

It is understood those matters have still not been resolved.

Documents presented to court last year showed that Mr Medich had frittered away the $2.9 million on fine dining, massage parlours, paying his son Peter $120,000 a year to be his personal assistant, leasing a $160,000 BMW and paying one lawyer $180,000 to liaise with his other lawyers.

Grilled about his daily lunch bills, some of which came to almost $700, Crown prosecutor Gina O'Rourke asked: "Haven't you ever considered eating in, Mr Medich, cooking a steak, having a salad?"

Mr Medich replied that because he used to have chef, he had never learnt to cook, so he was forced to eat out.


The court heard he'd also spent in excess of $33,000 on a luxury holiday to Hayman Island.

Mr Medich blamed his financial situation on his estranged wife Odetta, who he claimed would not give him "one red cent".

On that occasion Justice Geoff Bellew dismissed Mr Medich's application for a stay on the grounds he had no money, but as it transpired the trial was delayed anyway owing to revelations that the Crown's star witness Lucky Gattellari had allegedly attempted to extort $15 million from Mr Medich in order to change his evidence.

Gattellari had been Mr Medich's closest associate until he was arrested and charged in October 2010 over the McGurk murder.

He immediately got word to Mr Medich seeking $1 million for bail and legal fees.

Mr Medich, who had previously ploughed $16 million into Gattellari's struggling electrical companies with no security and no documentation, refused Gattellari's request.

His once close friend had a message delivered to Mr Medich's son Peter saying: "If that's the case he can pack his bag, too."

Gattellari rolled over and began co-operating with the police. A fortnight later, Mr Medich was arrested and charged with soliciting the murder of McGurk.
Some of Ron Medich's expenditures in 2015.

But the rich property tycoon spent just six weeks in jail before being released just before Christmas in 2010 with his younger brother Roy putting up $1 million for his bail.

In granting him bail, Justice David Price gave "little weight" to Mr Medich's "need to have regular contact with his stockbroker" but he did note that Mr Medich was in custody in segregation and that his "trial might not start until 2012".

In fact, Mr Medich's trial did not start until five years later, and when it did he was allowed to deposit $1.8 million into his solicitor's trust account to pay for his trial.

In refusing Mr Medich's request last May seeking an order that his trial be delayed because he had no money, Justice Bellew said that Mr Medich had "failed (or refused) to consider how he proposed to fund his defence ... and rather decided quite deliberately to spend his money as though it came from a bottomless pit.

"This is an affront to the community and to the family of the deceased who have been waiting nearly seven years for the resolution of this matter," said the judge in May 2016.

It now appears that it will be even longer until Mr Medich's guilt or innocence is established, but hopefully by then his assets will be unfrozen by the Family Court, allowing him to fight another day.

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


froglet posted:

Long story short - Medich is a wealthy Sydney property developer who is on trial for orchestrating the murder of Michael McGurk. Medich was embroiled in a legal battle with McGurk over a property deal gone wrong, with accusations of fraud and mismanagement on all sides. Of course, when the ridiculously wealthy are involved, their ridiculous lifestyle always come to light...

Wow, this is excellent.

"I always had a private chef so I never learned how to cook so that's why I have a $700 lunch every day please pity me" :qq:

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

pig slut lisa posted:

Wow, this is excellent.

"I always had a private chef so I never learned how to cook so that's why I have a $700 lunch every day please pity me" :qq:

Even if this were true, a frozen lasagne here is $3...

Hoodwinker
Nov 7, 2005

Guillotine.

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

froglet posted:

Even if this were true, a frozen lasagne here is $3...

I can only assume, relatively speaking, that would be similar to asking one of us commoners to pull out corn kernels from animal poo poo and eat those.

Blinkman987
Jul 10, 2008

Gender roles guilt me into being fat.

spinst posted:

I live in one of the "top 25 fastest growing metropolitan areas" according to a U.S. Census Bureau report.

I've been looking to get out of my apartment and into a duplex. Found an affordable one, which was hard enough, and went to the open house today.

There were so many people there! It was depressing.

Apartment living forever, I guess!

Moving: BWM

I'm just waiting for the next financial collapse and hoping my industry is resilient. If capitalism can be counted on for anything, it's making GBS threads the bed once a decade or two.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Sic Semper Goon posted:

I can only assume, relatively speaking, that would be similar to asking one of us commoners to pull out corn kernels from animal poo poo and eat those.

BWM: this goon lets perfectly good undigested corn kernels go to waste.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

pig slut lisa posted:

Wow, this is excellent.

"I always had a private chef so I never learned how to cook so that's why I have a $700 lunch every day please pity me" :qq:

Yeah but it's total horseshit, the guy was purposefully wasting money in a divorce battle while expecting to go to jail for life for murder. Fortunately but unfortunately the privilege of wealth and apparently the dysfunctional Australian legal system has kept him out on bail for 7 years now?

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

monster on a stick posted:

Not sure if it is gambling. But it also seems like you can pick a racehorse and root for it, just like you root for Local Sports Team if you have zero monetary stake in the outcome. People were cheering for the Patriots/Falcons in the last Super Bowl who have never been to any of their games.

But really I posted it because horse.

For the record Cistron actually won the Northern Spur Stakes yesterday, earning $90,000. After subtracting the jockey's and trainer's shares (10% each) that leaves $72,000 split amongst the shareholders in the horse's syndicate. Since OP owns 5% of Cistron they walked away with an extra $3,600 in their pocket. Conclusion: Good With Money.

Racehorse syndicates really are a crapshoot as to whether you will make back your investment, but as co-owners the members of a syndicate get to sit in the fancy box seats at the racetrack and pal around with rich people. And it's a tax write-off.

Literally Elvis
Oct 21, 2013


Horses: actually GWM?!

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Literally Elvis posted:

Horses: actually GWM?!

I bought a horse farm to put all my horsies on it, and then I found a gold vein. Horse farms GWM!

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

And then you moved to Beverly Hills?

FateFree
Nov 14, 2003

My mom's boyfriend races horses in Monmouth and we visited his farm yesterday for Easter. He has 8 of them, one of whom was just born a few days ago. In honor of this thread I asked him if the horses he raced made enough money to cover the cost of caring for the others. His response was: "gently caress no!"

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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
My dad just took a 6-hour drive to go make a repair to the dryer in the timeshare they bought this year.

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