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sassassin posted:That's not the phrase I used. It is though. sassassin posted:KotOR 2 is really bad Star Wars, written by people who admitted to only having a pop culture understanding on what Star Wars was actually about.
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sassassin posted:What do laser swords represent? Laser penises
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Snowman_McK posted:It is though. "pop culture understanding" is not "pop culture knowledge" If you're going to quibble over language at least quote me properly. Wookieepedia shows a lot of knowledge about Star Wars, and next to no understanding.
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RBA Starblade posted:Laser penises "This weapon is your life" says the celibate warrior monk.
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wyoming posted:Snoke is Luke's missing hand. I can see it now: someone found Luke's hand and lightsaber, and while the saber ended up in not-Yoda's possession, someone else took Luke's hand, attempted to clone a Luke, or reverse engineer a Vader (Vaader?) clone from Luke's midichlorians, and we ended up with Snoke
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Alienwarehouse posted:Do you think Snoke's identity will be revealed in this, or do you think we'll have to wait for the third one? I'm still rooting for Snoke to be a two-inch-tall creature that uses the hologram as a form of overcompensation. It's symbolic of how evil has no real power and has to fool people into thinking it does
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21 Muns posted:I'm still rooting for Snoke to be a two-inch-tall creature that uses the hologram as a form of overcompensation. Snoke is actually microscopic, because he is a sentient midichlorian
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jivjov posted:1138_snoke_weed_erryday Hahaha
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sassassin posted:It's hard to compare it to a product that doesn't exist. No it wouldn't
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jivjov posted:1138_snoke_weed_erryday Vulnerable to Choombacca
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KotOR2 owns and is what made me like Star Wars in the first place the idea that the Light Side way of helping people actually robs them of the XP needed to solve their own problems also owns
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AndyElusive posted:I'm stoked to find out more about Snoke. I actually forgot Snoke existed until I read this post. What a garbage character.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I actually forgot Snoke existed until I read this post. What a garbage character. I wonder if people felt this way about the emperor in 1977 and 1980? Mentioned in like 2 lines in ANH, had a single scene via hologram in ESB.
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Apr 16, 2017 17:23
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jivjov posted:I wonder if people felt this way about the emperor in 1977 and 1980? Mentioned in like 2 lines in ANH, had a single scene via hologram in ESB. Nobody I know was talking about the Emperor after ANH. More were talking about the Emperor after ESB, but the focus was always on Vader. Then again, I was an actual child, and children don't usually simulate various forms of government with their action figures.
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grieving for Gandalf posted:KotOR2 owns and is what made me like Star Wars in the first place As a deconstruction of rpg mechanics and morality in videogames it's an interesting piece. It has very little to say about Star Wars, despite using its visual language. Like someone earlier said that it shows the common man not caring if the galaxy is ruled by Jedi or Sith as they're both just different flavours of religious fanatics. This is demonstrably untrue in the OT, which ends with the defeat of The Emperor by plucky rebels, and the joyous pronouncement that "Weesa free!" sassassin fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Apr 16, 2017 |
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Apr 16, 2017 17:48
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Snoke needs to be as big as or even bigger than his hologram.
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Ferrinus posted:Snoke needs to be as big as or even bigger than his hologram. It would be a fun subversion of expectation if he were actually like the size of a mountain and the hologram was shrinking him so he could have meetings with his people in the same room
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sassassin posted:"This weapon is your life" says the celibate warrior monk. "This weapon is your life" says the celibate warrior monk who makes a point of taking his friend's sword while leaving his actual person behind.
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21 Muns posted:I'm still rooting for Snoke to be a two-inch-tall creature that uses the hologram as a form of overcompensation. I wonder if he'll be as poo poo at fighting as Palpatine was. I kind of love that his biggest victory is successfully running away from Yoda.
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sassassin posted:As a deconstruction of rpg mechanics and morality in videogames it's an interesting piece. I don't think that's the best comparison since I think most people don't know that the Empire is a product of the Sith. Edit - I mean, if we're going to bring up the movies as a counter example to say that the universe wouldn't have had different mindsets thousands of years ago, then I could point to the fact that regular people willfully follow the Sith and join the Sepratists in the Clone Wars because of economic concerns. Roth fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Apr 16, 2017 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I actually forgot Snoke existed until I read this post. What a garbage character. You don't seem very snoked, SMG.
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Apr 16, 2017 19:24
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I don't want Snoke to be some huge identity reveal. He should be Snoke, and not just a twist that won't mean anything in the long run.
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Roth posted:I mean, if we're going to bring up the movies as a counter example to say that the universe wouldn't have had different mindsets thousands of years ago Star Wars isn't a real history. It's merely a series of films.
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grieving for Gandalf posted:KotOR2 owns and is what made me like Star Wars in the first place It doesn't because that's the same argument conservatives try to use to cut the social safety net
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sassassin posted:Star Wars isn't a real history. It's merely a series of films. Uh, no poo poo? I don't know why you would make a point about KOTOR 2 if you're just going to fall back on this excuse.
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homullus posted:Nobody I know was talking about the Emperor after ANH. More were talking about the Emperor after ESB, but the focus was always on Vader. Then again, I was an actual child, and children don't usually simulate various forms of government with their action figures. Sounds like someone didn't know how to have the most fun possible with their toys.
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duz posted:Sounds like someone didn't know how to have the most fun possible with their toys. There was a hilarious number of Space Bureaucrats hanging in toy aisles during the prequel era.
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Roth posted:No it wouldn't I think that this is correct.
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Mecha Gojira posted:There was a hilarious number of Space Bureaucrats hanging in toy aisles during the prequel era. Senator Orn Free Ta and I had fun.
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Roth posted:Uh, no poo poo? I don't know why you would make a point about KOTOR 2 if you're just going to fall back on this excuse. I haven't fallen back on anything. My points about KotOr 2 remain as they were when you first read them. It doesn't matter if the game set "thousands of years" before the movies, if it's about different things than Star Wars then it's not about Star Wars. Star Wars is not a real history.
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Snoke is good for a new and unexpected dark side power, at the least.
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sassassin posted:if it's about different things than Star Wars then it's not about Star Wars. Star Wars is not a real history. What point are you even trying to make?
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Freakazoid_ posted:Snoke is good for a new and unexpected dark side power, at the least. Was gonna say "time travel" and then I remembered China, lol.
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21 Muns posted:I'm still rooting for Snoke to be a two-inch-tall creature that uses the hologram as a form of overcompensation. Evil has plenty of power. What are you smoking?
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Big Beef City posted:What point are you even trying to make? sassassin posted:KotOR 2 is really bad Star Wars, written by people who admitted to only having a pop culture understanding on what Star Wars was actually about.
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I'm not sure why you are withholding your thought process until you are approached with close ended questions, but I'll bite. What is star wars really about? Why does KOTOR2 not align with this?
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I really wanted Snoke to be Leia and she was behind both the resistance and first order. It makes her insistence that Han confront Kylo make more sense.
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Megasabin posted:I'm not sure why you are withholding your thought process until you are approached with close ended questions, but I'll bite. Actually, I think a better question would be: Why does KOTOR 2 have to be about the same things as the movies to be Star Wars?
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Roth posted:Actually, I think a better question would be: Why does KOTOR 2 have to be about the same things as the movies to be Star Wars? It doesn't, but the conversation began with the applicability of KotOR2's themes to those of The Last Jedi.
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