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For machine lifeforms, a factory is like a nursery, right?
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It's probably like, the moonmans we've never seen aren't actually human, the gestalt project never finished, and the machine lifeforms have the souls of human children.
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Apr 15, 2017 21:19
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When I first saw the demo and they obfuscated the names of bosses I thought they would have some big revelations on the names so I expected Engels to be named "Mother" or something since he is part of a factory that builds robots.
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Apr 15, 2017 21:35
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It's the P-33 situation again but this time for every machine. Eventually we learn there wasn't even a war, mankind drove itself to near extinction in a series of increasingly more lethal factory looting accidents. This is also why and how the rest of 2B's team died.
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Apr 15, 2017 21:38
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grancheater posted:It's the P-33 situation again but this time for every machine. Eventually we learn there wasn't even a war, mankind drove itself to near extinction in a series of increasingly more lethal factory looting accidents. This is also why and how the rest of 2B's team died. This reminds me of Philip K Dick's Autofac. Basically a war reduces human numbers by a large amount, but before the war there were these massive automated factories that were made. The issue was that they were strip-mining the planet to make goods that the survivors had no use for, and were taking resources from communities so they couldn't be self reliant. It is actually a pretty good read.
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Apr 15, 2017 22:12
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Sindai posted:She does that, it just takes a few seconds. Does not apply to when she's climbing a ladder, sadly.
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Apr 15, 2017 22:57
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I want Yoko Taro to dance around companies and be in charge of a game under every single place. Learning about the art of losing the True End 10 minutes into the game from Idea Factory, about having to collect 108 hidden people from Konami, about walking to the final boss and leaving to do more sidequests from Namco, about making every single NPC a super interesting person with their own life and story that you feel like poo poo for missing any of from Falcom, ETC. Imagine, he can get more powerful. He can make us suffer harder. Most of those were jokes, but now I'm really wanting a Legend of Heroes: Taro Edition. I want to see what he can do with a war and peace length script.
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Apr 15, 2017 23:12
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MythosDragon posted:Learning about the art of losing the True End 10 minutes into the game from Idea Factory, NepTaronia sounds hilarious. But I think that's what these LPs are.
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Apr 15, 2017 23:16
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The Dark Id posted:There is, unfortunately, an achievement for looking up 2B’s skirt ten times in a playthrough. It was the very last achievement I got platinuming the game because I’m not a degenerate. Dammit, Japan... I'm just glad I found out about this thanks to you so I don't end up with it or similar as the last achievement I get and Steam constantly showing it to me as the most recent achievement.
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Apr 15, 2017 23:32
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END ME SCOOB posted:NepTaronia sounds hilarious. But I think that's what these LPs are. I was thinking more Classic IF rather than post Compile Heart takeover IF. It really saddens me that no one knows anything about the Neverland Series, and its high fantasy as gently caress setting that has like 15-20 games that take place in it over several world wars. It was all IF did till the PS3 pretty much. On the topic of the insane meter, I think D1 was the highest and the most quality at it too. But that has alot to do with the setting being rather high fantasy and it meshing with the insanity perfectly. The rest of the games starting trying more, had a less satisfying setting, and yeah we got used to him.
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Apr 15, 2017 23:39
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Geemer posted:I'm just glad I found out about this thanks to you so I don't end up with it or similar as the last achievement I get and Steam constantly showing it to me as the most recent achievement.  *sigh* Edit: This cannot continue... The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Apr 16, 2017 |
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Apr 16, 2017 00:16
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END ME SCOOB posted:NepTaronia sounds hilarious. But I think that's what these LPs are. Wait, a game did that? What one?
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Apr 16, 2017 00:16
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This is why Platinum Trophies are Good, Actually.
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Apr 16, 2017 00:22
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LordAba posted:This reminds me of Philip K Dick's Autofac. Basically a war reduces human numbers by a large amount, but before the war there were these massive automated factories that were made. The issue was that they were strip-mining the planet to make goods that the survivors had no use for, and were taking resources from communities so they couldn't be self reliant. It is actually a pretty good read. I remember that story. The factories continued the war to supply "their" humans with goods and in the end even send seeds to the stars to continue the conflict.
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Apr 16, 2017 00:37
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The Dark Id posted:
 Seriously though: That sucks.
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Apr 16, 2017 01:10
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You can get 100% achievements, or you can keep your dignity. Choose wisely.
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Apr 16, 2017 01:14
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The Dark Id posted:
Couldn't you gently caress with SAM to reset your achievement progress and get something a bit better to show up.
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Apr 16, 2017 01:27
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The Dark Id posted:
Congrats on the new avatar?
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Apr 16, 2017 02:04
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I want to thank whoever it was that decided letting goons spend money to harass each other with bad pictures was a good idea.
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Apr 16, 2017 02:17
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MythosDragon posted:I want to thank whoever it was that decided letting goons spend money to harass each other with bad pictures was a good idea. From the perspective of the one making the money? It's a great idea actually.
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Apr 16, 2017 02:28
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The Dark Id posted:
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MythosDragon posted:I want to thank whoever it was that decided letting goons spend money to harass each other with bad pictures was a good idea. It will be like a week tops before someone changes it again anyways. Such is the way of Dark Id LPs.
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Apr 16, 2017 04:09
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So I've been listening to the OST and it's actually really reminding me of the music from the Panzer Dragoon series. Same kind of drums, sweeping orchestra, made up language singing and so forth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhAAYJNQZ_k I kind of like the uncanny valley PD designs for their "Drones" over perfect human reproductions wearing french maid outfits though.
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Apr 16, 2017 04:21
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The androids, especially the YoRHa models, look very doll-like without their blindfolds, and I have to think that's intentional.
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Apr 16, 2017 04:25
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7c Nickel posted:So I've been listening to the OST and it's actually really reminding me of the music from the Panzer Dragoon series. Same kind of drums, sweeping orchestra, made up language singing and so forth. Thats probably intentional since Drakengard was inspired by panzer dragoon partially. Also made up language singing is the best singing.
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Apr 16, 2017 04:34
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Obligatum VII posted:It will be like a week tops before someone changes it again anyways. Such is the way of Dark Id LPs. Someone needs to shop an emil head into that avatar and it'll be perfect.
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Apr 16, 2017 04:39
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Eopia posted:Someone needs to shop an emil head into that avatar and it'll be perfect. Yes, but where?
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Apr 16, 2017 04:40
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Kavak posted:Yes, but where? both buttcheeks
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Apr 16, 2017 04:56
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Obligatum VII posted:It will be like a week tops before someone changes it again anyways. Such is the way of Dark Id LPs. It's a vicious cycle that we've all been programmed to accept.
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Apr 16, 2017 05:07
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I just caught up with the LP after playing this game myself. Looking forward to seeing mechanics I never would have thought of while I'm still working towards 100%ishing this game. Also I don't know if you didn't mentioned or I skimmed over but the quick save option can be done in the pause menu when it says saving available in the corner, just incase taking 6 seconds to run up to a terminal takes too long for anyone.
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Apr 16, 2017 07:32
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exploded mummy posted:It's a vicious cycle that we've all been programmed to accept. Is this a curse? Or some kind of punishment? I often think about the mod who blessed us with this cryptic puzzle...and wonder if we'll ever get the chance to kill him.
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Apr 16, 2017 08:17
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I know exactly how this god is going to be killed. 2B better practice her singing and dancing routine. And get some missile countermeasures.
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Apr 16, 2017 08:44
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Yeah, this av is a little eh. Can't we bring back the Yonah one, since this is a Nier game? That one was a good av 
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Apr 16, 2017 11:05
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Yeah, this av is a little eh. Can't we bring back the Yonah one, since this is a Nier game? That one was a good av Given then current av, are you sure you want to ask for that? This could end poorly...
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Apr 16, 2017 15:52
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So, uh, I'm a Dark Id newcomer. Where did the whole 'loving this poo poo' thing come from?
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Apr 16, 2017 16:41
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vdate posted:So, uh, I'm a Dark Id newcomer. Where did the whole 'loving this poo poo' thing come from? His Clock Tower 3 LP.
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Apr 16, 2017 16:43
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It's an old church latin phrase (diligit excremento) he's apropriated, about the process of sin, suffering, and transcendence. You probably heard it in mass this morning, if you're not a heathen.
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Apr 16, 2017 16:57
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I should get around to reading the clock tower 3 lp then. Loving this poo poo just sounds like the perfect expression to describe Caims "Murder Face" (all of them), so I never questioned it.
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Apr 16, 2017 17:54
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The phrase is vague enough that you can apply it to anything, really.
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Episode XII: 11B Music: Rays of Light (Vocal) .jpg) I know the first thing I said about sidequests was to skip all of them until fast travel unlocks. But, well... the first optional couple are an exception, since fast travel only shaves off about three minutes of commute. It’s the ones after this point where it’s a 20 minute addition of travel time just running from Point A to Point B that are the issue mitigated by being able to teleport to areas. Anyway, we did get an e-mail about a new weapon and a sidequest, both involving a return trip to the Abandoned Factory from the Prologue chapter. See that building over there? That’s where we touched down the beginning of this chapter. .jpg) Now let’s just pan over about 90 degrees, just past the next building over from where we started. See that collapsed overpass? That’s the Factory peeking out just past it. .jpg) .jpg) It’s just a matter of scampering over an incredible rusted but surprisingly sturdy wrecked truck and dashing down the mostly intact overpass. Fun fact: 2B is supposed to be around 330 lbs. Living tissue over a metal endoskeleton ain’t light. Also Terminators were totally androids, not cyborgs. James Cameron, you idiot. .jpg) .jpg) There’s a bit of the factory we didn’t encounter, including a small parking lot/cargo shipping area leading to a stairway and a Save Terminal. This is the only save point available in the Factory at the moment. The map, annoyingly, displays a couple more in the general region really early on. Yeah... those aren’t accessible until about 85% of the way through the playthrough. Don’t bother searching for like 20 minutes to get to ‘em. Not that I did that or anything... Music: Ends .jpg) .jpg) Climbing to the top of the stairs, we find ourselves... right back at the end of the Factory section. Up there is where we ran over Engels to reach the bridge where quite a bit transpired. So... I don’t know... maybe that opening mission would have been more successful if they took a land route over the city, landed around where 2B and 9S did early, and just... walked to the Factory? I don’t think Engels could have zeroed in on everyone as well as it did when they were flying in with zero cover over open water. Just a thought. .jpg) And there’s the bridge itself, which is not in the best of shape after Engels flying head-butt it a few times. Oh and the whole android black box detonations. That couldn’t have helped matters. We never do see that supposed facility on the other side of the bridge. .jpg) .jpg) Traveling toward the new edge of the bridge, we find 2B’s old sword sticking out of the ground, having been conveniently blown just far enough away from the blast to avoid sinking into the ocean. .jpg) Much like Virtuous Contract, Virtuous Treaty is a fairly viable option throughout the majority of the game. It’s a wee bit faster than Beastlord, even if it doesn’t have quite the range. At Level 2 it gains a boost to attack speed and at max level, it also gains Holy Blessing (more damage at max HP.) But who cares about that? That’s ages from now. It’s time for another Weapon History! Virtuous Treaty posted:
.jpg) OK, then... 2B, these are your default weapons. Have you been in for your quarterly psych evaluation lately...? Just curious... .jpg) We’re not quite done on this bridge. Just ahead of Virtuous Treaty is another android corpse. This android corpse is special. As it turns out, it’s 2B’s dead body from the Prologue. .jpg) .jpg) Collecting the body will restore all the materials and the mess of healing items/buffs we had during Chapter 1, as well as the Auto-Item Chip that 2B had installed during the opening. Auto-Item will, as the name suggests, automatically use a Small Heal item if 2B’s health falls to critical range. It does have a momentary lag between 2B falling to critical health (which briefly slows down time) and the item’s use, in which 2B can still get ganked if an enemy follows up quickly. And it doesn’t work if she gets one-shot (i.e. it’s all but useless on Hard/Very Hard.) But hey, for early game this isn’t a bad security blanket if this ain't your kind of genre normally. This is one of the few Auto-Chips that work on difficulties above Easy. .jpg) That’s enough about 2B’s corpse run. Let’s tackle the factory. We did have a sidequest to recover something belonging to 11B, who if you’ll remember was the second android to fall at the very beginning of the opening mission. According to the map, something of hers managed to make its way into the Factory zone, despite the fact she died in a fiery wreck about twenty miles from land. New Music: Wretched Machinery (Quiet) .jpg) We’re given a very broad range of where this sidequest’s objective could be. Spoilers: It’s literally back at the start of the region, where we fought the first Marx. .jpg) .jpg) Right at the start of the Factory was a dead android named Ken(yes) I decided to revive. It seems to be quite stoked to be revived as a ghoulish thrall. Revived Androids come packing the Slot 1 weapon the player was carrying when they died. In Ken(yes)’s case... bare fists. Great... .jpg) .jpg) In practice, revived androids act like a dumber 9S that are always set to be Aggressive behavior. They’re a useful distraction but not that much of a boon. Especially in an area with weak enemies like this. This is just a matter of going through the same exact encounters from the Prologue, but in reverse. .jpg) Thankfully, we did open up those shortcuts early, so that shaves off a good five minutes of not particularly interesting encounters. Ken(yes)’s short life came to a close just as we reached the first shortcut hidden by the camera. Revived AIs only last for about two minutes before exploding violently. Said explosion will damage any nearby enemies. So that could help... if there were any. 2B’s self-destruct is also transferred to revived androids, if we want to manually explode the fallen comrade. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) With the lowered bridge and cranes from early, we’ve got a fairly straight shot back to the initial battleground for 2B. Ah the memories. If we approach right back to where 2B landed with dramatic flair, we find... .jpg) 11B’s corpse made its way here. Somehow... I’d like to think it got blown out of its Flight Unit and skipped across the ocean like a stone at high speeds before slamming through the wall here. But let’s investigate. .jpg)  So this is where you landed... Pod, can you access her black box? Negative. Unit 11B’s black box has been irreparably damaged. Hmm. Proposal: Unit 2B should recover any usable weapons. Fragmented data detected in memory region..jpg) This might be relevant in the future, but despite 11B having her black box be trashed without back-up and thus she is super dead, YoRHa weapons can hold memory data as well. It’s more of an actual plane’s black box recorder. And accessing 11B’s gets us this: .jpg) So unlike the rest of the non-2B YoRHa assault crew, 11B just faked her death to go AWOL. And then immediately completely hosed up her escape plan and died within an hour later. I don’t know if that’s better or worse than having just outright gotten blown out of the sky from a stationary laser beam. .jpg) Violation of regulations detected. However, due to the death of the unit in question, corrective punishment is impossible. ...... I’ll bring this weapon back to 16D in the Bunker..jpg) That is our first of sixty Resident Evil-esque text file Archives. There is... there’s a LOT of lore junk in this game. Honestly, not a lot early on. And then a metric ton by the late stages of the game. So look forward to that. .jpg) .jpg) In any case, we’ve fulfilled our request for the android on the Bunker. Unfortunately, even with shortcuts, we’ve still got to backtrack through the entire Factory zone. Only this time with no enemies because they don’t respawn until we leave the area or reload a save. .jpg) .jpg) But really, only the run back to the Resistance Camp is the time that would have been saved with Fast Travel. And that’s only a two minute job since 2B absolutely hauls rear end once she gets going. Music: Fortress of Lies .jpg) .jpg) I found 11B’s body, along with this weapon. *hands over 11B’s belongings* The battle log is still intact on this... She must have fought right up to the end. I always knew she was the bravest of us all... Thank you, 2B. But I think you should keep it. You’re a combat model, after all, whereas I’m a defense unit. I’m sure 11B would be happy knowing it was being put to good use. All right..jpg) OK. Nice, we’ve got a free weapon out of the deal. Not a particularly great one. But... We’ll look at that in a moment. First...  We are given a choice at the end of this quest. 16D didn’t look at that battle log we read. We can reveal the truth of 11B’s dereliction of duties before her death or keep it ourselves. The latter choice is just a line of 16D admitting she and 11B were lovers and she's deciding to switch jobs to a Combat model. But, if we choose to reveal the truth... Well... New Music: Broken Heart (Vocal) (A lot of side quests conclude with some rarely played music this go around.) .jpg) Let me see... Wait. She was planning to abandon her post? ...... Heh... Pffft...aaah ha ha ha ha! What’s so funny? It’s just that... she was always such a hard rear end, you know? To think she wanted to run away just... Ha ha! And what a miserable way to die. Serves her right for the way she used to heap abuse on me... She always looked down on me because I wasn’t a combat model, and now... Thank you, 2B. Thank you for showing me this. Now I can dedicate myself to my job with a clear mind. ...... Oh, and here. You should take this. I don’t have a reason to protect myself anymore....jpg) Yeah well... The reward is the same either way. Just not the part where 16D takes a heel turn with her relationship. Ok... So about that weapon? .jpg) It’s the bog standard all non-main character YoRHa soldiers have equipped. Its first upgrade gives a 30% discount in stores run by YoRHa or the Resistance while it’s equipped. At maximum level, it gains Pod Charge, which reduces the cooldown on Pod Programs. But let’s do the important part. YoRHa-issue Blade posted:
Yeah... Hey 9S, what do you say we head back to Earth? People are weird in space. .jpg) That takes care of the last of early business in Chapter 2 of NieR: Automata. All that’s left available to do now is to head for this Desert region and investigate the Machine Surge coming from the area. Getting to the desert isn’t much of an issue. Remember the overpass to the Factory? .jpg) .jpg) We’re just going to run right past that, continue down the, surprisingly intact for 10,000 years of poor maintenance, road to its end. And there is the entrance to the desert region just past those collapsed buildings. Tune in next time to Chapter 3 of NieR: Automata. In which things get REAL loving weird really fast...    Video: Episode 12 Highlight Reel   Factory Concept Art – They really downgraded the bridge to this joint, huh? The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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