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KataraniSword posted:I'd prioritize Sleep or Confuse resist myself for Heineken; just because he has AoE confuse as his counter doesn't mean he can't use it whenever he wants, too. That was a bit of a scramble when two of our healers got confused right after a Y'shtola dropped Asylum. Hey, she fixed it with Ultra-Cure. 
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100 gemmed up a Desch SSB. Don't care tons about it, but I guess down the line I can start a Lightning team? No more 11 pulls on FF3 though, had the most painful pull I have ever witnessed on banner 1. (Would have screenshotted it, but no clue how to do it on my budget POS phone). 7/11 Arc SSB Refia SSB Refia SSB #2 Refia SSB #3 CoD SSB CoD SSB #2 CoD SSB #3. at least the pull I did the next morning out of boredom with Myth netted me CoD's BSB...and two more Arc SSBs.
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I sailed through the 200 Hein battle with a pubbie team with little difficulty, and then tried to get it in the 160 level and had a guy who kept physically attacking even though he had spells equipped and got the entire team hit with confuse, and then tried it again and beat it, but lost the mastery because the player with breaks tried to hit Hein with them once, missed, and then gave up. Oh, pubbies.
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Man this CM is a bitch, he's really easy until like the last 20% of his HP and then he goes nuts and starts dropping ultimate meteor followed by doublecast AoE. Resistance-ignoring attacks when you don't have any good debuff SBs in a realm are brutal.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Man this CM is a bitch, he's really easy until like the last 20% of his HP and then he goes nuts and starts dropping ultimate meteor followed by doublecast AoE. Resistance-ignoring attacks when you don't have any good debuff SBs in a realm are brutal. Yeah, it's pretty rough. I barely managed to pull out a win thanks to Arc's blink medica, which allowed my party to dodge a hit that would have killed 4 of them
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Aw hell yeah I got Ingus' BSB.  Ingus is a cool and good boy and I'm glad I finally have a thing for him. Bonus points that it's his best thing and pretty drat amazing in general.
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Did three pulls on this, on hopes of finally getting OK BSB, with the major consolation prices of Desch and Ingus BSB's:   Now sitting pretty a 6 dupes, none of them being the three BSB I want. I've now also spent 600+ mythril on banners with the OK Gauntlets, including one free pull, and a bit of cash too. Still don't have them. 
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Attestant posted:I've now also spent 600+ mythril on banners with the OK Gauntlets, including one free pull, and a bit of cash too. Still don't have them. This is how I feel about Wall. It's pretty awful when you actually get tempted by the goddamn year old Keeper's Choice banners because they allegedly have the thing you desire.
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Is there a "best" way to develop OK? I broke my rule of only pulling for characters I like, and was rewarded with his staff and gauntlets. I have him at level 91, and have 22 onion motes.
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ArmadilloConspiracy posted:Is there a "best" way to develop OK? I broke my rule of only pulling for characters I like, and was rewarded with his staff and gauntlets. It depends on your team make up, and what slot he's going to be taking. You have enough onion motes for everything, so 4* motes are going to be your bottleneck (unless you have a ton of those too? in which case go crazy) His BSB is basically self sustaining, so he should get a mako/dr mog and be your haste-bot, then give him whatever abilities you need for the fight With white 5 he can take half of proshellga and free up a slot on someone else. With support 5 he can run your breaks With combat 5 he can life siphon to minimize the downtime between bsbs (it is occasionally two actions if something goes wrong, with lifesiphon it won't be ever) Black 5 is probably his weakest option. Don't bother with his other dives unless you're swimming in motes, someone else can almost certainly put them to better use. In my mage team OK generally runs half of proshellga and a breakdown, depending on medal conditions and boss attacks.
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Black 5 is OK's strongest option because he is a very very very strong black Mage.
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CaptainPsyko posted:Black 5 is OK's strongest option because he is a very very very strong black Mage. He is, but compared to the utility of his other dives.... But then I guess I have plenty of strong mages. With different relics I might value his damage higher.
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Mithross posted:He is, but compared to the utility of his other dives.... I mean, once you're rolling Mage, finding someone with a white 4 isn't hard. So it's not particularly valuable, though, sure, it's convenient. (I actually used him as a primary healer with Dank Squad for the FF3 U last night!) Support 5 is definitely worth doing regardless - one of the best things about OK is that I can give him Full Break to tag a boss for medals and full Mage gear, and if he's in the front row, it'll hit for 9999 anyway. Combat 5 is what you're really overrating unless you intend to PC/FC, IMO (which also requires diving for Cel/Nin5). If you would want to Lifesiphon, you can just as easily use Wrath (and his command 2 is >>>>>>>>>> command 1, so even if you also have shout, whatever.)
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Onion Knight is the only FF3 character that can equip Full Break, so dive him for Support 5 if you care about CMs. If you are using his BSB then kite him out for magic because command 2 does more damage overall than command 1 if you're strictly self-chaining. Which is also the main reason to dive him for Black 5; when his BSB runs out you want to finish off the chain with a 5* black magic that hits weakness (or Meltdown) then re-cast the BSB and start the sequence over again. Nevermind the fat MAG boost he'll get from diving as well. Generally the best path is to give him all the MAG boosting stuff, then fill out the rest as you need. Or if you're crazy and OK is one of your chase characters and you have everything for him and use him on every team.
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it goes without saying but really if he's level 91 the first thing you should be doing is running those exp dungeons a couple of times to get him topped off at 99 since that's what shoots his stats through the roof
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OK's probably the best Ninja in the game, too. Honestly if you're good on 4* motes you should just fully dive him and use him in some capacity for every single piece of content except CMs
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Now that the new dailies are coming soon, I'm working on putting together a shopping list for 5* abilities to work towards. I've already taken care of leveling Full Break, Full Charge, the Monk, Knight, Dancer, and Sharpshooter 5*s, and I'm working on the Chain 'gas, Powerchain, and the Spellblades. Which 5* "class" abilities worth honing to R2 or 3? I've included the BSBs I own in case that changes priorities. - Dragoon Abilities like Dragoon Jump, Lightning Dive, and Sky Grinder (I have Luneth and Freya's BSBs) - Machinist Abilities like Bio Grenade and Rapid Fire (I have Reno and Balthier's BSBs) - Ninja Abilities like Doppelblade, Raging Storm, and Smoldering Fire (I have no Ninja BSBs other than OKs) - Thief Abilities like Dash and Slash and Poison Leaves (I have Rikku's BSB and Vaan's OSB, TR is already at R3) - Darkness Abilities like Reaping Scythe, Sanguine Cross, Morbid Countdown, and Dire Heal (I have Sephiroth, Jecht, and Kuja's BSBs, Dark Zone is already at R3) - Summon Abilities like Titan, Omega Weapon, and Tiamat (Bahamut is already at R3) There are just so many abilities now, and I have no concept of which ones are worth using anymore.
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Support 5 also allows him to use Affliction Break which is pure awesome against status inflicting bosses.
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Please stop, I'm trying to resist the urge to pull a third time chasing those drat ok gauntlets. 
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Galaga Galaxian posted:There is always the Ascians. But if we're talking playable badguy it has to be Gaius.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Please stop, I'm trying to resist the urge to pull a third time chasing those drat ok gauntlets. It's a mediocre banner otherwise, and if you have a bunch of dupes by now, it's really not worth the risk.
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I know, plus I lack the resources to fit him out, but my Mage team needs a better buffer than Braska Summoners Dream.  Bell_ posted:Nero would be a solid contender, too. Gaius is awesome, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got Nero first. Nero is a cool dude. And they could give him a wardrobe sphere to switch between his coolred Legatus armor and his scruffy post-legion adventurer attire. Speaking of which HW outfit wardrobe spheres for the Scions when? Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Managed to do the Cid Mission by pretending Luneth was a mage and RWing Cid Raines, so I don't need to worry about that for my second pull at least EDIT: I did it  better Nihilarian fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Speaking of which HW outfit wardrobe spheres for the Scions when? FFRK only just added Garuda (I think); they still have plenty of vanilla content to go through before releasing expansion stuff.
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wizard on a water slide posted:OK's probably the best Ninja in the game, too. Honestly if you're good on 4* motes you should just fully dive him and use him in some capacity for every single piece of content except CMs Edge and Yuffie easily beat him, and he more or less ties with Fujin. Having +damage is way more important than higher MAG as a Ninja.
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Uncle Ulty posted:Which 5* "class" abilities worth honing to R2 or 3? I've included the BSBs I own in case that changes priorities. In order:
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Pulled last night for Onion Gauntlets: 1/11, Desch Gauntlets Pulled this morning: 1/11, Desch Gauntlets Rage-pulled my last 50 Mythril:  That's better.
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IllegallySober posted:Pulled last night for Onion Gauntlets: Tell us how you enjoy your 8* Desch Gauntlets. 
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KataraniSword posted:Tell us how you enjoy your 8* Desch Gauntlets. They can go in the pile with my 8* Onion Sword (after I find a spare 8 million Gil for those two and my eventual 9* Cloud OSB sword )
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My finger is getting tired from kicking out all these Clouds with R5 lifesiphons from the Hein fight.
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  Fantastic pull, didn't have any of these...more importantly finally have the gauntlets!
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Fister Roboto posted:My finger is getting tired from kicking out all these Clouds with R5 lifesiphons from the Hein fight. I had a plague of Ramza's. Which somehow feels even worse.
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Fister Roboto posted:My finger is getting tired from kicking out all these Clouds with R5 lifesiphons from the Hein fight. Get in the goon discord. There is literally no good reason to do raids with pubbies.
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KataraniSword posted:[*]Unless you're hitting an elemental, a maxed out Thieves' Revenge is going to be better in a utility sense (thanks to its healing) than either of the dagger skills. Dash and Slash has decent synergy with the windy dragoons, though, if that's a factor. They're mostly good for using on people with Thief 5 that don't have good enough Speed to ride TR - notably Record Sphere'd Noel and Tyro. Wind is a fairly common weakness, so that one can be good to hone. I put it to great use recently myself, where it was better than TR due to my healer bsb keeping my health up. Poison leaves is both a less common weakness and a less common resisted element. Since TR is non-elemental, it's not that important unless you have leila's bsb. They're still decent skills though. As for physical darkness abilities, sanguine cross is getting a buff in such that it will reduce your health a good bit less. It will actually become a decent option, especially with the physical 2-hit drain skill coming up. So I'd suggest keeping it for now, and honing it later. The other 5* darkness skills are poo poo, save dark zone and dire heal.
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CaptainPsyko posted:I had a plague of Ramza's. Which somehow feels even worse. I had three teams with Onion Knight BSBs join me, and combined with my Yuna BSB2 we just melted Hein
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Sprite141 posted:The other 5* darkness skills are poo poo, save dark zone and dire heal. Is Dire Heal good then? I got a copy but assumed it was gimmicky and not worth it without trying it much. But I often run Raines, so I could use it if it was worth it and didn't need weakness hits from something else.
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Prism posted:Is Dire Heal good then? I got a copy but assumed it was gimmicky and not worth it without trying it much. But I often run Raines, so I could use it if it was worth it and didn't need weakness hits from something else. It's basically a stronger two-hit Drainga. The "two-hit" is the important part - more hits means higher damage cieling means better healing. It's part of what makes Golbez's BSB so good.
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