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Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

LentThem posted:

i on the other hand am an escort at an upscale KTV
WHITE WHALE
HOLY GRAIL

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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Magna Kaser posted:

I dunno I've met a bazillion 23 year old fresh grad english teachers in my time here and they're always insufferable in p much this way, or close to it. The international students are even worse. There's some fetish among them to find "real china" and experience "real china" and oh ho ho you went to that place that serves nice beer and not 8¥ bottles of snow beer served at room temperature? Look at this guy!

I hate all people in pursuit of the "real"

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
They're hipsters/attention whores, why bother hating them?

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

GoutPatrol posted:

I hate all people in pursuit of the "real"

Shhhhhhh, I think they're talking about Taiwan.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Jimmy Little Balls posted:

My favourite expats are the kids who are doing internships making lovely mobile games for 500rmb a month and won't shut up about how they're better than people teaching English because they have a proper job.

My favourite are the "Marco Polos" who think they are discovering a new place, untouched by the white man!

<9 year old Korean kids roll their eyes/fall asleep after hearing the exact same "coming to Korea" story from their 23rd foreign teacher in 5 years?

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


My coworker was expecting more like The King and I of women in colorful kimono and wooden sandals and teaching perfectly behaved children who would follow her like ducklings reciting mother goose.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
CHINA SO EXCITING FOR CHINESE VERSION OF MINECREAFT! MAKE THE OLYPMIC USELESS BUILDING LOOK A BRICK!

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
At least they'll have the unexpected explosions down pat.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

GoutPatrol posted:

I hate all people in pursuit of the "real"
This must be a common idea for it to come up so much, but my favorites are the guys online that are like:
"I plan on taking a lovely low-paying job in the middle of bumfuck nowhere so I can REALLY learn Chinese. Beijing has too much English, and being around millions of people speaking mostly-proper Mandarin every single day is such a distraction to my learning to speak like a true local!!!"

*Finds out the local redneck dialect is utterly useless and nonsensical when it comes to learn the target language*
*Hates life, yet stays for a least a year there so they can martyr themselves*
*Does most of the language learning by listening to the radio or watching TV*
*Comes to realize that maybe the big city would have provided the experience needed, since, like, it's actually still China and full of Chinese, and stuff*
*Posts about it on reddit*

Edit: "I don't want any distractions! This plan is gold!"

EDIT EDIT: "I know this is the only way I can learn to speak and think in this language I am so desperate to learn, because I have never done something like this before."

Haier fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Apr 17, 2017

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Very lucky in Shenzhen today 31.1 degrees Celsius



Very sad I am stuck working and not getting burnt to a crisp. I didn't bring that 100 SPF for nothing!

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Haier posted:

Very lucky in Shenzhen today 31.1 degrees Celsius



Very sad I am stuck working and not getting burnt to a crisp. I didn't bring that 100 SPF for nothing!

Pollution index: 8888

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Pollution is really low today actually, at least in HK, it's a beautiful day

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Yeah pollution here has been weirdly low for like an entire week now and I'm getting really suspicious all the tracking systems aren't busted/manipulated somehow.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Haier posted:

This must be a common idea for it to come up so much, but my favorites are the guys online that are like:
"I plan on taking a lovely low-paying job in the middle of bumfuck nowhere so I can REALLY learn Chinese. Beijing has too much English, and being around millions of people speaking mostly-proper Mandarin every single day is such a distraction to my learning to speak like a true local!!!"

*Finds out the local redneck dialect is utterly useless and nonsensical when it comes to learn the target language*
*Hates life, yet stays for a least a year there so they can martyr themselves*
*Does most of the language learning by listening to the radio or watching TV*
*Comes to realize that maybe the big city would have provided the experience needed, since, like, it's actually still China and full of Chinese, and stuff*
*Posts about it on reddit*

Edit: "I don't want any distractions! This plan is gold!"

EDIT EDIT: "I know this is the only way I can learn to speak and think in this language I am so desperate to learn, because I have never done something like this before."

plz don't doxx me

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://video.vice.com/en_au/video/skater-diary-wang-huifeng-china-intl/58ed9d844d3663ef732bd1f7?ref=vice

Haier what do you think about this documentary on skateboarding in Shenzhen.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

lol this is actually kind of funny

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
\
:backtowork:
I met up with another white dad/Chinese mom family and we took our kids to the beach. Eastern New Territories has beaches that are not crowded and don't have garbage washing up in the tide.

A while back I may have mentioned that I was going to be leaving my public school job and trying to get on at an international or a semi private school. Well, after a demonstration lesson and interview, one of the more established international schools in Hong Kong says that I have a job with them if I want. Now, the only problem is tomorrow I will be meeting the principal of a Brand New International School. I got this through a recommendation from my former supervisor. The school is charging 200000 Hong Kong dollars per year in tuition, has only 16 places per classroom, has student apartments because boarding is a great British thing that people want to emulate here, and their curriculum will mostly be based on mainland China.

Wait, WHAT?

I talked to an acquaintance of mine who runs a business for expats and their families coming to Hong Kong to try and secure a school place. She knows pretty much everything about all of these high in schools, so she explains that the senior board is run by a bunch of extremely rich Chinese businessman and Party associated officials. The house masters of the boarding section will also be the legal Guardians of the mainland children that their parents drop into Hong Kong so that they can comply with residency rules or something.

So the English curriculum might be left on its own, but I am afraid that the students we get will just get in because their parents dropped a ton of money. On the website they say that a donation of 1.8 million Hong Kong Dollars to the schools investment fund will guarantee a school place, so at least they are honest. I'm not sure if I can continue with weekly flag raising ceremonies and playing the PRC anthem anymore.

The pay will probably be 20000 Hong Kong Dollars more per month than what I am making now though, and I would get to work with my awesome supervisor again. So, choice between respected established international school with good pay that is more of the same, or the chance to get in on the ground floor of a Brand New International School under an awesome boss, but the school will be red as hell and kids will literally praise Mao in Chinese class?

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

The school that was also a front :stare:

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


International school if you're looking to stick around, but if you've reached the cash in and GTFO stage hit the red school and sock away maximum profits.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

Imperialist Dog posted:

I met up with another white dad/Chinese mom family and we took our kids to the beach. Eastern New Territories has beaches that are not crowded and don't have garbage washing up in the tide.

A while back I may have mentioned that I was going to be leaving my public school job and trying to get on at an international or a semi private school. Well, after a demonstration lesson and interview, one of the more established international schools in Hong Kong says that I have a job with them if I want. Now, the only problem is tomorrow I will be meeting the principal of a Brand New International School. I got this through a recommendation from my former supervisor. The school is charging 200000 Hong Kong dollars per year in tuition, has only 16 places per classroom, has student apartments because boarding is a great British thing that people want to emulate here, and their curriculum will mostly be based on mainland China.

Wait, WHAT?

I talked to an acquaintance of mine who runs a business for expats and their families coming to Hong Kong to try and secure a school place. She knows pretty much everything about all of these high in schools, so she explains that the senior board is run by a bunch of extremely rich Chinese businessman and Party associated officials. The house masters of the boarding section will also be the legal Guardians of the mainland children that their parents drop into Hong Kong so that they can comply with residency rules or something.

So the English curriculum might be left on its own, but I am afraid that the students we get will just get in because their parents dropped a ton of money. On the website they say that a donation of 1.8 million Hong Kong Dollars to the schools investment fund will guarantee a school place, so at least they are honest. I'm not sure if I can continue with weekly flag raising ceremonies and playing the PRC anthem anymore.

The pay will probably be 20000 Hong Kong Dollars more per month than what I am making now though, and I would get to work with my awesome supervisor again. So, choice between respected established international school with good pay that is more of the same, or the chance to get in on the ground floor of a Brand New International School under an awesome boss, but the school will be red as hell and kids will literally praise Mao in Chinese class?

Are you expecting some kind of a response or are you really asking a gbs thread who you are as a person?

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
I went to the bakery I usually go to get some donuts. They didn't have any, but had some cream puffs that usually own really hard. The cream they make is amazing and I will immediately buy anything they put out with that cream as an ingredient.
I bough the puffs and came home, opened the bag, took a bite, spit out my bite, gagged. loving durian cream. I bit the others in the bag to see if I had a regular one, but they were all durian. I had to open my doors and light incense to get that disgusting smell out. I will be tasting it for the 12 hours at least. God drat it. Night ruined.

LOL

Look at the 1%er. To be good or turn pro in skateboarding (or any of these other sports like inline, BMX, etc.) requires a full-time effort that many young people in the West can attempt (basically dropping out of high school, or not going to college because it's too much time). Most of my friends across the sports, or pros we know of, all completed high school and went no further when they wanted to dedicate themselves to it. No way it's possible in China unless he's a tuhao and his family gave him everything he has and were ok with their son never working. I really doubt a Chinese pro skater that's probably never been heard of outside China was able to afford that nice car he had or the house he lives in on the salary he gets. He said he doesn't have a normal job, and hopes he will never have to get one. His surfing lifestyle was silly, and it's part of his "look at me" tuhao bullshit, showing off how cool he is.

The average Chinese person will never, ever be able to live such a carefree life of goofing off, and I feel there's no way in hell his skateboarding pays for him to live that way. Regular professional in these sports that want to get money will compete as much as possible, because the prize money from competitions will supplement their income or help them save away for when their body is broken and they can't do it anymore.

The average Chinese young person that gets into skateboarding does not have money to keep up with it unless their family gives them an allowance, and they usually quit once life/school gets real. Shoes and boards add up, even when buying Chinese local brands. To buy foreign brands like Vans, Nike, etc., will cost way too much money. Many of the popular American deck brands press their boards in the USA, so people here buy Walmart-quality decks instead and play with them at open people's squares for a while until bored or they get hurt that first time.

Anyway...

That part about his X-Games experience made me laugh for how much Face garbage was in it. I liked how he said he was a professional, but then later whines how if people have to actually compete to see who is pro, then what is the point? Pure Face, where he says he is X but can't do Y to become X, so it's all a big conspiracy against him.

He got rejected from the X-Games because they, like most competitions, have a system where you have to (OMG) qualify in local/other competitions to prove you are good enough to compete, and he didn't do that. There are plenty of pros and good people who legitimately lose skills as they get older or busted up, and qualifying rounds are the standard in every competition and contest in nearly every sport since forever.
Then he complains how the foreigners can sign up so easily, most likely not realizing that they either qualified back home or other countries, in previous competitions, or by having their big sponsors vouch for them or something. Some rando from Shenzhen is angry while pretending to not understand the basics about it. The way people become pro in skateboarding and other sports is "Compete as a nothing. Win. Compete as an amateur. Win. Go on to compete against more amateurs, where the top two or three become professional. Win that. Turn professional. Sponsor backs you before or after this. Get a couple moneys." TO say he's pro and then pretend he doesn't understand the system is too much Face to handle.
The X-Games are poo poo, but the X-Games have been in Asia since the mid-90s, and this dude is purely using Face as a way to admit he's fallen off the skills train. "It's so corrupt!" LOL

My money is that of course he knew he would be barred from competing without qualifying himself (everybody knows this, that's how people turn pro), but he went and used those strict unsportsman-like rules, along with blaming the foreigners, as his way of "quitting" from having to compete in serious competitions that draw people from all over the world, therefore not losing Face in the future when he gets whooped.
The Asian X-Games are super popular and draw people from all over Asia and the rest of the world to compete. There's no way that dude could handle himself against the rest of the world. He's being a huge baby, and purely Chinese Face-Haver at that.

Maybe he's an OK guy, but whining about his team mates and being so lonely for being so old (he looks 24, LOL) is lame as hell, and that X-Games rant was retarded.
Also, it was definitely an old video, even though I can't find the date. The police don't kick you out of Civic Center anymore, and there are hundreds of local and foreign skateboarders, inliners, and bikers in SZ, and there's no way this guy can complain he's all alone. If he's talking about not finding anyone on his skill level, that's also probably a lie, too.

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009
So my girlfriend is back in her hometown for a while, we just spoke on the phone and asked what she did today, she told me oh nothing, I watched some TV. Over the course of the conversation it turns out she got her phone fixed (she smashed the screen months ago and is always complaining about it, I've been trying to get her to fix it for loving ages), passed her driving test and went to her aunts funeral. So yeah, nothing.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Chinese is a cool language with a lot of boring people to use it on.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Imperialist Dog posted:

I met up with another white dad/Chinese mom family and we took our kids to the beach. Eastern New Territories has beaches that are not crowded and don't have garbage washing up in the tide.

A while back I may have mentioned that I was going to be leaving my public school job and trying to get on at an international or a semi private school. Well, after a demonstration lesson and interview, one of the more established international schools in Hong Kong says that I have a job with them if I want. Now, the only problem is tomorrow I will be meeting the principal of a Brand New International School. I got this through a recommendation from my former supervisor. The school is charging 200000 Hong Kong dollars per year in tuition, has only 16 places per classroom, has student apartments because boarding is a great British thing that people want to emulate here, and their curriculum will mostly be based on mainland China.

Wait, WHAT?

I talked to an acquaintance of mine who runs a business for expats and their families coming to Hong Kong to try and secure a school place. She knows pretty much everything about all of these high in schools, so she explains that the senior board is run by a bunch of extremely rich Chinese businessman and Party associated officials. The house masters of the boarding section will also be the legal Guardians of the mainland children that their parents drop into Hong Kong so that they can comply with residency rules or something.

So the English curriculum might be left on its own, but I am afraid that the students we get will just get in because their parents dropped a ton of money. On the website they say that a donation of 1.8 million Hong Kong Dollars to the schools investment fund will guarantee a school place, so at least they are honest. I'm not sure if I can continue with weekly flag raising ceremonies and playing the PRC anthem anymore.

The pay will probably be 20000 Hong Kong Dollars more per month than what I am making now though, and I would get to work with my awesome supervisor again. So, choice between respected established international school with good pay that is more of the same, or the chance to get in on the ground floor of a Brand New International School under an awesome boss, but the school will be red as hell and kids will literally praise Mao in Chinese class?

is this the school that "forgot" to apply for their school licence* and was running classes because the teachers they hired were suddenly not actually hired but instead doing term-long teaching-based interviews, heading up classes to see if might at some future date "become" school employees?

*it sounded like they bribed a guy at the EDB who left and didn't file paperwork. There was a "miscommunication" where the EDB were waiting for a document that the school said they had already submitted

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Grand Fromage posted:

International school if you're looking to stick around, but if you've reached the cash in and GTFO stage hit the red school and sock away maximum profits.

this. if ur leaving in the next few years go max profit. If ur not don't do it

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
\
:backtowork:

simplefish posted:

is this the school that "forgot" to apply for their school licence* and was running classes because the teachers they hired were suddenly not actually hired but instead doing term-long teaching-based interviews, heading up classes to see if might at some future date "become" school employees?

*it sounded like they bribed a guy at the EDB who left and didn't file paperwork. There was a "miscommunication" where the EDB were waiting for a document that the school said they had already submitted

Wasn't that the "Norwegian" international school?

It's not time to GTFO of Hong Kong yet, so I'll probably go for the Respectable Job.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Haier posted:

I went to the bakery I usually go to get some donuts. They didn't have any, but had some cream puffs that usually own really hard. The cream they make is amazing and I will immediately buy anything they put out with that cream as an ingredient.
I bough the puffs and came home, opened the bag, took a bite, spit out my bite, gagged. loving durian cream. I bit the others in the bag to see if I had a regular one, but they were all durian. I had to open my doors and light incense to get that disgusting smell out. I will be tasting it for the 12 hours at least. God drat it. Night ruined.

LOL

Look at the 1%er. To be good or turn pro in skateboarding (or any of these other sports like inline, BMX, etc.) requires a full-time effort that many young people in the West can attempt (basically dropping out of high school, or not going to college because it's too much time). Most of my friends across the sports, or pros we know of, all completed high school and went no further when they wanted to dedicate themselves to it. No way it's possible in China unless he's a tuhao and his family gave him everything he has and were ok with their son never working. I really doubt a Chinese pro skater that's probably never been heard of outside China was able to afford that nice car he had or the house he lives in on the salary he gets. He said he doesn't have a normal job, and hopes he will never have to get one. His surfing lifestyle was silly, and it's part of his "look at me" tuhao bullshit, showing off how cool he is.

The average Chinese person will never, ever be able to live such a carefree life of goofing off, and I feel there's no way in hell his skateboarding pays for him to live that way. Regular professional in these sports that want to get money will compete as much as possible, because the prize money from competitions will supplement their income or help them save away for when their body is broken and they can't do it anymore.

The average Chinese young person that gets into skateboarding does not have money to keep up with it unless their family gives them an allowance, and they usually quit once life/school gets real. Shoes and boards add up, even when buying Chinese local brands. To buy foreign brands like Vans, Nike, etc., will cost way too much money. Many of the popular American deck brands press their boards in the USA, so people here buy Walmart-quality decks instead and play with them at open people's squares for a while until bored or they get hurt that first time.

Anyway...

That part about his X-Games experience made me laugh for how much Face garbage was in it. I liked how he said he was a professional, but then later whines how if people have to actually compete to see who is pro, then what is the point? Pure Face, where he says he is X but can't do Y to become X, so it's all a big conspiracy against him.

He got rejected from the X-Games because they, like most competitions, have a system where you have to (OMG) qualify in local/other competitions to prove you are good enough to compete, and he didn't do that. There are plenty of pros and good people who legitimately lose skills as they get older or busted up, and qualifying rounds are the standard in every competition and contest in nearly every sport since forever.
Then he complains how the foreigners can sign up so easily, most likely not realizing that they either qualified back home or other countries, in previous competitions, or by having their big sponsors vouch for them or something. Some rando from Shenzhen is angry while pretending to not understand the basics about it. The way people become pro in skateboarding and other sports is "Compete as a nothing. Win. Compete as an amateur. Win. Go on to compete against more amateurs, where the top two or three become professional. Win that. Turn professional. Sponsor backs you before or after this. Get a couple moneys." TO say he's pro and then pretend he doesn't understand the system is too much Face to handle.
The X-Games are poo poo, but the X-Games have been in Asia since the mid-90s, and this dude is purely using Face as a way to admit he's fallen off the skills train. "It's so corrupt!" LOL

My money is that of course he knew he would be barred from competing without qualifying himself (everybody knows this, that's how people turn pro), but he went and used those strict unsportsman-like rules, along with blaming the foreigners, as his way of "quitting" from having to compete in serious competitions that draw people from all over the world, therefore not losing Face in the future when he gets whooped.
The Asian X-Games are super popular and draw people from all over Asia and the rest of the world to compete. There's no way that dude could handle himself against the rest of the world. He's being a huge baby, and purely Chinese Face-Haver at that.

Maybe he's an OK guy, but whining about his team mates and being so lonely for being so old (he looks 24, LOL) is lame as hell, and that X-Games rant was retarded.
Also, it was definitely an old video, even though I can't find the date. The police don't kick you out of Civic Center anymore, and there are hundreds of local and foreign skateboarders, inliners, and bikers in SZ, and there's no way this guy can complain he's all alone. If he's talking about not finding anyone on his skill level, that's also probably a lie, too.

Maybe you can say face a few more times

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

nickmeister posted:

Chinese is a cool language with a lot of boring people to use it on.

lol this is a fantastic hot take

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Imperialist Dog posted:

Wasn't that the "Norwegian" international school?

It's not time to GTFO of Hong Kong yet, so I'll probably go for the Respectable Job.

I think I was thinking of Mount Kelley

quote:

Kenny, a founding principal of the English Schools Foundation’s Renaissance College, said a government agency put him in contact with Mount Kelly after the school became a “victim of some very poor advice”.

They're hosed over zoning issues

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Magna Kaser posted:

Yeah pollution here has been weirdly low for like an entire week now and I'm getting really suspicious all the tracking systems aren't busted/manipulated somehow.

My weather app thought I was in Windhoek (Namibia) for a while. I no longer trust it since then.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Maybe you can say face a few more times
China without face is like China without rice.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
If I were in Asia, I'd easily take the Clorox way out. I might dilute it with some coke to wash it down easier.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
If you haven't guessed my day at work loving sucks assholes.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Glenn Quebec posted:

If you haven't guessed my day at work loving sucks assholes.

Trip report expected later.

Savage For The Winjun
Jun 27, 2008



lil wayne's house?

Universe Master
Jun 20, 2005

Darn Fine Pie

Haier posted:

China without face is like China without rice.

In the middle of a Mao generated famine?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle





Is that photoshop? I find it hard to believe anyone is drinking Crystal Pepsi.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Deceitful Penguin posted:

Some folks liked it, others (me) pointed out that it's bad scholarship

Get it if you want, it won't explain either of the things you mention tho


if you want real academic book reccs try the D&D thread (lol does anyone still seriouspost there tho)

Lol what the gently caress you dont know poo poo dude. Dikotter is one of the best writers on China along with Spence and no amount of sadbrains tankie bullshit will change that.

You can always read Tombstone, which is like Mao's Great Famine except its more gruesome and written by a primary source (so racist icelandic shutins cant dismiss it out of hand)

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Imperialist Dog posted:

So, choice between respected established international school with good pay that is more of the same, or the chance to get in on the ground floor of a Brand New International School under an awesome boss, but the school will be red as hell and kids will literally praise Mao in Chinese class?

Go for the higher pay and maximize your savings for when you GTFO.

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