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not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
I had a real turd of a first sergeant for a while and he convinced the CO to stick it to a dude for drat near the exact situation(got some Vicodin for a thrown out back while on leave). Thankfully Joe had been around the block once or twice and when they called him in he just said "JAG".

Once they got involved nothing got heard about it again because it was loving stupid.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

not caring here posted:

I had a real turd of a first sergeant for a while and he convinced the CO to stick it to a dude for drat near the exact situation(got some Vicodin for a thrown out back while on leave). Thankfully Joe had been around the block once or twice and when they called him in he just said "JAG".

Once they got involved nothing got heard about it again because it was loving stupid.

Similarly, had a junior enlisted soldier get hosed up on cocaine in a hotel room with some strippers. He'd been a pretty heavy coke addict prior to joining. He called his squad leader, said he had a problem, and he wanted help via ASAP. Squad leader and his PL, who I took over for about a month or two after this bullshit, tell him to go to ASAP.

Commander conducts a recall and immediate 100% urinalysis and writes up an article 15.

Long story short, results of entire UA thrown right the gently caress out, including some other unrelated dude who tested positive for coke, no article 15s at all, commander basically called a total moron by an O-6 JAG officer when the commander decided to say he'd like to pursue the charge, even after having it explained like law-101 by a JAG captain.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

mlmp08 posted:

Similarly, had a junior enlisted soldier get hosed up on cocaine in a hotel room with some strippers. He'd been a pretty heavy coke addict prior to joining. He called his squad leader, said he had a problem, and he wanted help via ASAP. Squad leader and his PL, who I took over for about a month or two after this bullshit, tell him to go to ASAP.

Commander conducts a recall and immediate 100% urinalysis and writes up an article 15.

Long story short, results of entire UA thrown right the gently caress out, including some other unrelated dude who tested positive for coke, no article 15s at all, commander basically called a total moron by an O-6 JAG officer when the commander decided to say he'd like to pursue the charge, even after having it explained like law-101 by a JAG captain.

Some times the weenie fucks you, other days you strap that sumbitch on and gently caress the army back.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Wasabi the J posted:

Yes. Because substance abuse is a serious problem in the military and prescription opioid abuse is an epidemic in the US, with many street heroin users becoming addicted to scrips first before being unable to get more.

(Please do not try to joyride your opioid prescriptions because it is one of the few drugs that can actually make you physically dependant)

This. I am pretty vocal about what I was on before I cut myself off because I literally felt lost or I was dying. 4 oxy 4 tramadol 3 flexiril 25mg of adderrall and 60mg of duloxatine and lots of Ibuprofen to help with the headaches. Daily. For chronic pain, so this wasn't for a surgery or recovery. This is how I lived.

Everyday I would have to have a fan blasting at me (in winter in Washington) because I would be in hot sweats and then cold shivers. The withdrawals were bad enough to make me bed ridden for about a day when I started to ween myself off. I vomited everyday without fail, I had to drive back and forth to work through about 10 miles of I5 and was constantly on CQ because I was broke.

Don't gently caress with that poo poo. You don't want it.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Idk if this had already been over but apparently Grunt works is now the official clothing line of the Alt-Right?
https://www.gruntworks11b.com/based-stick-man/

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Which makes sene I guess because I never met a single person when I was in who wore their poo poo and wasn't a complete retard.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
What a time-saver!

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Just assume anything that has grunt, an MOS of any kind, or any other military marketing buzzword in it is just trash poo poo for trash people.

Yeah sure there might be an exception but I'm not wasting my time searching through the dung pile for a golden needle that may not even exist.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

not caring here posted:

Just assume anything that has grunt, an MOS of any kind, or any other military marketing buzzword in it is just trash poo poo for trash people.

Yeah sure there might be an exception but I'm not wasting my time searching through the dung pile for a golden needle that may not even exist.

I did have to have this shirt though.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
I'm kind of biased in that I like Mat Best and his youtube videos, along with Article 15 clothing (sometimes).

A buddy of mine on my Iraq deployment got completely hosed up, third degree burns and recently had to have a leg amputated. He pushed through it somehow and recovered, and is at the gym almost every day, living a better life than I am. Apparently he's good friends with all those guys that do the videos and stuff, and he's good people.....so by proxy I have this hope that the Article 15 guys are good people too. Yeah some of their poo poo is moto dumb poo poo but it seems like most of it is tongue in cheek.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Mike-o posted:

Yeah some of their poo poo is moto dumb poo poo but it seems like most of it is tongue in cheek.

And it could have something to do with wanting money. Yes, it's dumb to us jaded buttheads, but it's $$ when fresh graduates of basic buy it all up.

Obstacle2
Dec 21, 2004
feels good man

Mike-o posted:

I'm kind of biased in that I like Mat Best and his youtube videos, along with Article 15 clothing (sometimes).

A buddy of mine on my Iraq deployment got completely hosed up, third degree burns and recently had to have a leg amputated. He pushed through it somehow and recovered, and is at the gym almost every day, living a better life than I am. Apparently he's good friends with all those guys that do the videos and stuff, and he's good people.....so by proxy I have this hope that the Article 15 guys are good people too. Yeah some of their poo poo is moto dumb poo poo but it seems like most of it is tongue in cheek.

Did you watch their movie? They are retarded.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
No, I didn't. Like I said, I just like them because they're good to my buddy who needs that kind support and purpose, and even if they make dumb poo poo and make money off of other dumb vets at least they're getting together and hanging out with other vets instead of being loving alone and self destructive and suicidal. I'm glad my buddy has some good dudes to hang out with and shoot guns with, have a good time. He deserves it more than anyone I know. I'm the self destructive piece of poo poo who put a gun to my head yesterday for the millionth time and almost went through with it because I'm too loving weak to get off my rear end and find purpose because I'm a dumb grunt who wasn't good at anything except fighting. And I loving miss it, I miss that camaraderie I had with those guys because that's the closest I'll be to anyone in my life, because of the poo poo we went through together.

So there, that's why I like them even if we all loving poo poo all over other vets because yeah a lot of them are loving stupid. Hell, some of my buddies I went to war with aren't that sharp, voted trump and are extolling his virtues to me. But you know what? As soon as my girlfriend told one of them what had happened my phone was blowing up, them wanting to know if I was okay. So, yeah there's some dumb poo poo out there, but the impression I get is at least the Art15 guys are good guys at heart, even if they're dumb and make some dumb poo poo. Just like my buddies can be dumb as poo poo but they're still good people even if they have some dumb opinions.

Hey look, a Mike-o meltdown, how long has it been since the last time? :smith:

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

spacetoaster posted:

I did have to have this shirt though.



i got this one recently

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
All those shirts look gay as gently caress, also my monitor is turned on

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
Also in no way am I defending that site with the alt-right bullshit.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

Woof Blitzer posted:

All those shirts look gay as gently caress, also my monitor is turned on

Obstacle2
Dec 21, 2004
feels good man
Last time Mike melted down it was my fault too.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
Ain't anybody's fault except mine for being a sadbrains idiot trying to put a bullet in my head.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Woof Blitzer posted:

All those shirts look gay as gently caress

You would know. :smuggo:

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
Mike-o are you upset at secretly liking Art15 stuff, at presupposing that your friends don't like Art15 stuff, or just having a sadbrains day? That's not a trick question, and there's no right answer. It seems like there's a lot going on. People who have the time and energy to waste on hating something that isn't really hurting anyone, well, those people are retarded. Anyway, feel better man. Sadbrains is okay, because without sadbrains, goodbrains couldn't really exist. Your friends who like Art 15 poo poo are still good dudes you know. One of my best buds still wears his old LPCs, keeps a CIB on his camo ballcap and carries a green notebook. He lugs furniture around a warehouse for a living and is leaving GI bill time on the table when he could be making way more as a cop or something else. But, he doesn't give a gently caress, and he's happy. I can think of a million people who would take one look at him and find many things wrong with what he wears, what he identifies with, the hosed up porn he watches, the lovely quantity of hours he spends playing video games and watching loving anime, but who gives a gently caress, the only way to lose at life is to forfeit a chance for happiness when it's offered.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Zeris posted:

watching loving anime

You had me. Then you lost me.

The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

Zeris posted:

who gives a gently caress, the only way to lose at life is to forfeit a chance for happiness when it's offered.

Wisdom.

Fuck My Ass
Mar 24, 2010
College Slice
The only grunt style shirt I own is my company shirt from deployment and that's it. You won't catch me wearing anything screaming "IM ARMY" irl when I'm out of the monkey costume

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

spacetoaster posted:

You had me. Then you lost me.

there's no such thing as a true war story

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Zeris posted:

there's no such thing as a true war story

If there's only one survivor, then there's only one story. :colbert:

That's kinda like the truth.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

spacetoaster posted:

If there's only one survivor, then there's only one story. :colbert:

That's kinda like the truth.

You'd think, but Lone Survivor proves otherwise

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Pesticide20 posted:

You'd think, but Lone Survivor proves otherwise

That's only because Luttrell couldn't keep his own story straight.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Dudes who wear that poo poo are the same as dudes who tell you stories about how they'd be in the NFL if only coach would have put them in in the 4th quarter in the championship game.

You got your whole life ahead of you to do something greater and make yourself better, don't kick your feet up and assume being an E4 Infantryman is the climax of your life. That's how I see it anyways, besides, if you DID want to wear motarded clothes to somehow signal how cool you are to other people (lol), don't you think it's a little more interesting to never ever ever bring the military up and just kinda surprise people who get to know you over a while?

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

Justin Tyme posted:

Dudes who wear that poo poo are the same as dudes who tell you stories about how they'd be in the NFL if only coach would have put them in in the 4th quarter in the championship game.

You got your whole life ahead of you to do something greater and make yourself better, don't kick your feet up and assume being an E4 Infantryman is the climax of your life. That's how I see it anyways, besides, if you DID want to wear motarded clothes to somehow signal how cool you are to other people (lol), don't you think it's a little more interesting to never ever ever bring the military up and just kinda surprise people who get to know you over a while?

Alternatively they're totally going to make it in the MMA just wait

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016

gently caress My rear end posted:

The only grunt style shirt I own is my company shirt from deployment and that's it. You won't catch me wearing anything screaming "IM ARMY" irl when I'm out of the monkey costume

Me too and I stuff my fat soft civilian body in it and make sure everyone can see the map of Iraq on the back and hope they ignore my stay puff marshmallow man figure and assume I'm a badass

J.A.B.C.
Jul 2, 2007

There's no need to rush to be an adult.


Got to interview Mat Best for a military ball we had a while back, since one of our Gold Star Wives invited him out. He's surprisingly low-key and super respectful, especially when compared to his Youtube stuff. So I could see him being the type of guy to reach out to vets who got the short end of the stick.

And, hey, Joe is going to talk poo poo even after he gets out, regardless of MOS. If you can profit off of that, then more power to you. I'm not keen on reminding myself of my job during my down-time.

Also, LOL at the MMA stuff. Only know one guy who actually does it, and his hobby was Judo until he got to Ft. Hood. The difference between a regular MMA fighter and some Joe out of Combatives Academy is laughable.

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009
speaking of mma fighters, tim kennedy, the 37 year old former sf who has been a mid tier ufc fighter for last half decade, just reenlisted

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 12 hours!
Because he loves Trump so much. Allegedly.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Probably needs coverage for 5 years worth of TBI that he can't afford.

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

not caring here posted:

Probably needs coverage for 5 years worth of TBI that he can't afford.

hes been mmaing for a lot longer than 5 years

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

speaking of mma fighters, tim kennedy, the 37 year old former sf who has been a mid tier ufc fighter for last half decade, just reenlisted

AFAIK he never left the Army but went ARNG while he was doing the MMA thing.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

DoktorLoken posted:

AFAIK he never left the Army but went ARNG while he was doing the MMA thing.

was he sponsored by the army at all? serious question

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

hes been mmaing for a lot longer than 5 years

Yeah I don't know anything about him I just saw half a decade and went with it.

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Nostalgia4Butts posted:

was he sponsored by the army at all? serious question

Pretty sure that he had full and open endorsement from up high. Not sure if they were ever an official sponsor, though.

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